Lucca3927
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April 2nd, 2018 at 10:36:21 AM permalink
Hi. I was just wondering if anyone has ever taken abuse for being a darkside bettor in craps?

I was playing this weekend and the table was cold so I said screw it and bet the darkside for over an hour. This one jerk on the opposite end of the table was, I think, trying to toss them hard enough to hit me. Anyone deal with that?

Also, and this is even better, when the dice came to me another person said that since I was betting the darkside I had no right to be the shooter. He even complained to the boxman. Happily, he loaded up on the pass line/come area and I wiped him out. :-).

Any similar experiences out there?
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LuckyPhow
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April 2nd, 2018 at 11:45:43 AM permalink
Whew! Who hasn't?

Many here can show the scars, even though every knowledgeable craps player understands everyone is playing against the Casino and not against one another. (At least, that's probably the case with WoV members, right?)

Example: A shooter's come-out roll sets a point, and a second player then makes a Come bet. The shooter next rolls a 7 and loses his pass-line bet while the second player wins his Come bet. The second player wasn't playing "against" the shooter. But, somehow many players feel DP and DC players are "different," and fair game for any and all insults.
Romes
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April 2nd, 2018 at 12:35:26 PM permalink
Literally every player that's ever bet the DP/DC I'm sure has experienced some type of abuse from superstitious idiots that don't understand the game very well... to the extent they don't even understand WHO they're really playing against.

I haven't played craps in a while, but the few times I have I've had players openly root against me, say to their friends next to them simply ridiculous things they knew I could hear like "this idiot is screwing up the table by betting the opposite of us!" and all kinds of things. Funny enough, perhaps because I'm younger and stupider, or because I usually have a couple buddies with me to boot, I'm never rude but when someone goes over the line I will obnoxiously start just rooting for my bets, like anyone else at the table. Just so happens that when you hear "7 out!" and I start cheering for some reason it stings them that much more.
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AcesAndEights
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April 2nd, 2018 at 12:45:23 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

Literally every player that's ever bet the DP/DC I'm sure has experienced some type of abuse from superstitious idiots that don't understand the game very well... to the extent they don't even understand WHO they're really playing against.

I haven't played craps in a while, but the few times I have I've had players openly root against me, say to their friends next to them simply ridiculous things they knew I could hear like "this idiot is screwing up the table by betting the opposite of us!" and all kinds of things. Funny enough, perhaps because I'm younger and stupider, or because I usually have a couple buddies with me to boot, I'm never rude but when someone goes over the line I will obnoxiously start just rooting for my bets, like anyone else at the table. Just so happens that when you hear "7 out!" and I start cheering for some reason it stings them that much more.


I try to stay low key when I'm playing the wrong way, but have experienced the standard grumbling, sideways glances, etc. The more fun tables are where the right side players are lighthearted about it and you can get into a friendly, shit-talking rivalry but everyone knows it's all in good fun. I've had that interaction a few times. Most fun was one night at Paris after I had visited one of the ice bars earlier in the night (it was at Monte Carlo at the time) and was still wearing the fuzzy hat with the ear flaps. I was playing dark side at one end of the table and a bunch of young energetic guys were at the other end and we had fun hollering etc. I don't recall if I was up or not after that session (was v. drunk).
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alphastorm
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April 2nd, 2018 at 1:15:30 PM permalink
I skip the don't pass and play the don't come after the point is established. This way you won't collide with the shooter. You can even root for the 7 on the next come out.
Lucca3927
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April 2nd, 2018 at 3:15:21 PM permalink
Quote: alphastorm

I skip the don't pass and play the don't come after the point is established. This way you won't collide with the shooter. You can even root for the 7 on the next come out.



I suppose that's one way to do it, but I'd rather play the way I want to.

He's the funny thing that I can never wrap my mind around. I'm the shooter, I seven out and win, yet I still lose the dice. That never seemed fair to me.
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Greasyjohn
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April 2nd, 2018 at 4:01:04 PM permalink
When I play the don't it's usually on the DC so I'm not bucking the shooter. Then I lay my odds like a Sherman tank climbing hedgerows in France after D-Day.
odiousgambit
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April 18th, 2018 at 1:41:51 AM permalink
Quote: Greasyjohn

When I play the don't it's usually on the DC so I'm not bucking the shooter. Then I lay my odds like a Sherman tank climbing hedgerows in France after D-Day.



I often play only the DC too, but especially for the shooters near me. I'll do the DC exclusively if I don't like the table minimum, to cut down on the bets per hour. And I just pass the dice, usually.

Some players don't like it just because it's darkside, DC or not ... but for the most part on the east coast you dont seem to get much flak for playing the don't

as far as that Sherman tank image, you know the Germans found the hedgerows made good defensive positions
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GlenG
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April 18th, 2018 at 1:48:40 AM permalink
Who cares, your money is not their money. That's what I always say.
Ahigh
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April 18th, 2018 at 10:40:13 AM permalink
IF YOU ARE THERE TO MAKE MONEY, KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT IF YOU PLAY THE DARK SIDE

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