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JSTAT
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August 25th, 2016 at 8:05:45 PM permalink
I explain on Periscope how to win at the EZ Baccarat (and the regular mini/midi baccarat Player bet) Dragon 7 side bet which pays 40-1 counting cards using the JSTAT Count with the side counting of 8's/9's. The JSTAT Count strategy counts the 2-9's as +1 and the 10's and picture cards as -2 (the aces are not counted). An 8 or 9 comes out very 6.5 cards with eight of them in each deck. More 8/9's gone than normal with minus counts give us the card counting edge at Player bets at baccarat and the EZ Baccarat Dragon 7 side bet.

At the EZ Baccarat Dragon 7 side bet, it is impossible for a 3 card winning banker 7 with 8's,9's,10's, and picture cards. This is why we win with this strategy.

Casino reporter, enjoys blackjack/baccarat card counting, Bay Area poker pro, JSTAT@Casino_Examiner on Twitter
AxelWolf
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August 25th, 2016 at 8:14:43 PM permalink
Quote: JSTAT

I explain on Periscope how to win at the EZ Baccarat (and the regular mini/midi baccarat Player bet) Dragon 7 side bet which pays 40-1 counting cards using the JSTAT Count with the side counting of 8's/9's. The JSTAT Count strategy counts the 2-9's as +1 and the 10's and picture cards as -2 (the aces are not counted). An 8 or 9 comes out very 6.5 cards with eight of them in each deck. More 8/9's gone than normal with minus counts give us the card counting edge at Player bets at baccarat and the EZ Baccarat Dragon 7 side bet.

At the EZ Baccarat Dragon 7 side bet, it is impossible for a 3 card winning banker 7 with 8's,9's,10's, and picture cards. This is why we win with this strategy.

Why tell anyone?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
AxelWolf
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August 25th, 2016 at 8:14:43 PM permalink
Quote: JSTAT

I explain on Periscope how to win at the EZ Baccarat (and the regular mini/midi baccarat Player bet) Dragon 7 side bet which pays 40-1 counting cards using the JSTAT Count with the side counting of 8's/9's. The JSTAT Count strategy counts the 2-9's as +1 and the 10's and picture cards as -2 (the aces are not counted). An 8 or 9 comes out very 6.5 cards with eight of them in each deck. More 8/9's gone than normal with minus counts give us the card counting edge at Player bets at baccarat and the EZ Baccarat Dragon 7 side bet.

At the EZ Baccarat Dragon 7 side bet, it is impossible for a 3 card winning banker 7 with 8's,9's,10's, and picture cards. This is why we win with this strategy.

Why tell anyone?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
JSTAT
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August 28th, 2016 at 11:59:36 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: JSTAT

I explain on Periscope how to win at the EZ Baccarat (and the regular mini/midi baccarat Player bet) Dragon 7 side bet which pays 40-1 counting cards using the JSTAT Count with the side counting of 8's/9's. The JSTAT Count strategy counts the 2-9's as +1 and the 10's and picture cards as -2 (the aces are not counted). An 8 or 9 comes out very 6.5 cards with eight of them in each deck. More 8/9's gone than normal with minus counts give us the card counting edge at Player bets at baccarat and the EZ Baccarat Dragon 7 side bet.

At the EZ Baccarat Dragon 7 side bet, it is impossible for a 3 card winning banker 7 with 8's,9's,10's, and picture cards. This is why we win with this strategy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVvK1j7FcG0

Why tell anyone?


I wanted to see if my baccarat card count for the Player Bet and Dragon 7 passes scrutiny with the greatest minds in the casino world here on the Wizard's forum.
Casino reporter, enjoys blackjack/baccarat card counting, Bay Area poker pro, JSTAT@Casino_Examiner on Twitter
Ibeatyouraces
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August 28th, 2016 at 12:59:40 PM permalink
Let's see the mathematics to back up these claims.
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gamerfreak
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August 28th, 2016 at 1:00:56 PM permalink
I thought it was pretty well known that those side bets are countable. But if I recall, it's not all that profitable.
Ibeatyouraces
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August 28th, 2016 at 1:02:57 PM permalink
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Let's see the mathematics to back up these claims.


For the record, I'm not saying he's right or wrong. Only want to see proof.
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Wizardofnothing
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August 28th, 2016 at 1:45:34 PM permalink
The side bet is 10000 percent countable - I did it at a casino for a month straight with no heat until they lowered the max- at 200 max it's very profitable and under 50 it's worthless
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JSTAT
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August 28th, 2016 at 2:05:04 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Let's see the mathematics to back up these claims.



Eliot Jacobson (Teliot) did a a card counting analysis of the EZ Baccarat Dragon 7 side bet that was published on the Wizard of Odds site in 2011 https://wizardofodds.com/games/baccarat/dragon-bet/. Using a linear count simulation, Jacobson concluded a shoe depleted of more eights and/or nines than normal provided an advantage for Dragon 7. I upped the ante by including the JSTAT Count (2-9=+1 and 10-K=-2) with a side counting of 8/9's and have been very successful playing in casinos. It only makes sense that a winning three card banker 7 cannot happen with a ten card along with the 8/9's as a third card in this non-linear count.

As an additional bonus, I discovered the JSTAT Count with the side counting (and the lack of) of 8/9's remaining in the shoe with minus counts works very well with Player Bets in conventional baccarat.
Last edited by: JSTAT on Aug 28, 2016
Casino reporter, enjoys blackjack/baccarat card counting, Bay Area poker pro, JSTAT@Casino_Examiner on Twitter
Ibeatyouraces
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August 28th, 2016 at 2:10:27 PM permalink
You guys (counters of various games) work to hard!
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