Can Roulette Be Beaten?
July 23rd, 2023 at 11:26:00 AM
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Because you said 80% hit rate numerous times before, then you denied that you could do that, then you said that's what you do. ]
Show me the post where I deny that I do that. I do it every time I play, why would I deny it. It's the reason I can play multiple casinos at the same time. I can't believe how many times I've had to explain this, and every time I do I say it's the last time I'm going to do it yet here I am doing it again.
"You need to establish what you're gonna prove first before we can say what's needed to prove it."
Everybody here claims that I cannot and do not beat roulette. Not a single person here says Bob, we believe you beat roulette but we just don't believe the 80% part. Every person here says they do not believe I beat roulette so that's obviously what I have to prove. That I win more often than I lose. That's beating a game is it not? If you think I have to prove more than that, that's your problem. Because you have said over and over that I don't beat it, correct?
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 23rd, 2023 at 11:34:48 AM
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Quote: gordonm888I do not believe that any of you are motivated by concerns about the integrity of this site... MrV, TigerWu, Axel, BillRyan, DarkOZ and a few others just kept posting and posting and complaining to each other about EB...All I see are members who enjoy feuding with other members.
OK, but did you stop to ask yourself "Why?"
EB has continued to brag about how he regularly hoses casinos, but when we ask how he does it, specifically, he clams up and tap dances: SS,DD for decades.
This is a gambling board where ideally we can exchange ideas about how to beat casinos, most especially if in disclosing our methods we do not compromise our ability to continue to employ them in the future.
EB claims he follows patterns: if so, and if this somehow leads to him winning eighty percent of the time, I see no way that him disclosing the specifics of his methods would jeopardize his ability to continue to use them: the casinos would need to hire experts and try to develop new methods to interfere with pattern reading, or so it seems to me, and that ain't happening because doing so is impossible..
He also argues it would take too long to show us.
Baloney.
EB simply enjoys being a (insert the "T" word here), and we keep calling him on it.
"What, me worry?"
July 23rd, 2023 at 11:38:13 AM
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I'll give you a list of good offshore joints that have Live Roulette(like Bovada). Pick one or more. I'll set up and fund the accounts(tell me how much). I will give you the login information etc. You do your thing.
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LOL! How convenient that would be for you, you would have access to all my bets, where I place them and the history of the numbers so you could see exactly what I'm doing. Because that's all you're interested in, I know you believe that I beat roulette but you don't know how I do it and that's what you want to know. Admit it.
I'll just stick with my online casinos and post screen grabs of the results if we ever arrive at what I'm going to be doing which is looking less likely all the time. As Gordon points out in so many words, I'm the forums Whipping Boy you love to whip me even when I'm not here and that would all go away when I prove that I really can beat roulette so nobody wants me to do that because then all their fun would be gone.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 23rd, 2023 at 11:44:30 AM
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My objection was to the ridiculous idea that someone being suspended for a post in a thread would result in the thread being closed.
If you closed this thread for good, no one would object. When you start closing threads for someone's minor infraction, it's a whole other ball of wax. It's incredible how out of touch you are with the pulse of the forum.
I repeat my comment- I think any moderator who thinks closing threads for a day because one person says something that warrants a suspension is a good idea needs to go.
If you closed this thread for good, no one would object. When you start closing threads for someone's minor infraction, it's a whole other ball of wax. It's incredible how out of touch you are with the pulse of the forum.
I repeat my comment- I think any moderator who thinks closing threads for a day because one person says something that warrants a suspension is a good idea needs to go.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
July 23rd, 2023 at 11:47:50 AM
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So you're saying someone could figure out how your system/method works by just knowing what bets you make on coin-flip type of bets? That sounds impossible, but ok. So, I won't have access to the accounts. Mike or someone else (someone who has no knowledge of gambling or what's going on) can set up the accounts for you.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolf
I'll give you a list of good offshore joints that have Live Roulette(like Bovada). Pick one or more. I'll set up and fund the accounts(tell me how much). I will give you the login information etc. You do your thing.
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LOL! How convenient that would be for you, you would have access to all my bets, where I place them and the history of the numbers so you could see exactly what I'm doing. Because that's all you're interested in, I know you believe that I beat roulette but you don't know how I do it and that's what you want to know. Admit it.
I'll just stick with my online casinos and post screen grabs of the results if we ever arrive at what I'm going to be doing which is looking less likely all the time. As Gordon points out in so many words, I'm the forums Whipping Boy you love to whip me even when I'm not here and that would all go away when I prove that I really can beat roulette so nobody wants me to do that because then all their fun would be gone.
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 23rd, 2023 at 11:48:03 AM
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If someone watched me play Baccarat and occasionally place the largest bets and win them, that would not mean that he'd be able to figure out why I bet big that hand. It's not as easy as just following the count in Blackjack for example.
Similarly, whatever EBob is doing in Roulette would require quite a complex analysis to discern any rime or reason to it, based solely on that he is winning more of his bets than losing.
Over all, he seems to be either advocating some kind of "reading randomness" theory, or he really has figured out how to determine a bias in even statistically unbiased roulette wheels.
Finding that bias by just studying the wheel for a while, is what this Niko Tosa fellow claims to do.
Similarly, whatever EBob is doing in Roulette would require quite a complex analysis to discern any rime or reason to it, based solely on that he is winning more of his bets than losing.
Over all, he seems to be either advocating some kind of "reading randomness" theory, or he really has figured out how to determine a bias in even statistically unbiased roulette wheels.
Finding that bias by just studying the wheel for a while, is what this Niko Tosa fellow claims to do.
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
July 23rd, 2023 at 11:56:28 AM
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Not even close brother.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolf
I'll give you a list of good offshore joints that have Live Roulette(like Bovada). Pick one or more. I'll set up and fund the accounts(tell me how much). I will give you the login information etc. You do your thing.
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Because that's all you're interested in, I know you believe that I beat roulette but you don't know how I do it and that's what you want to know. Admit it.
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Im 100% certain you don't have a winning system/method of beating roulette. If I did, I would've taken you up on the opportunity when you offered. Or did you forget about that? May I present the contents of a few private messages regarding this?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 23rd, 2023 at 11:59:29 AM
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Quote: gordonm888Quote: rainmanQuote: gordonm888God, I am so depressed. I think this flippity-flop thread is going to go on forever. This thread is not about roulette. Its become a dirty diaper; a stinky-butt version of a fight club.
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It is pretty interesting how management lets this skidmark go on while
the membership vehemently tries to defend the integrety of this site.
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I do not believe that any of you are motivated by concerns about the integrity of this site; if you were then you would do what at least a dozen other members have done: stop posting on this thread and let it die. Even when EB stopped posting on this thread for a long time, you and MrV, TigerWu, Axel, BillRyan, DarkOZ and a few others just kept posting and posting and complaining to each other about EB. If moderators were to close this thread then I feel certain you guys will keep doing this on other threads or on a thread titled Can Roulette Be Beaten?-2.
There is no threat to integrity of this site, IMO that's just a nonsense excuse for conducting a 'fight club.' Outside of the participants, the only people reading this thread, are the moderators -because its in our job description to do so. This is a boring, highly-repetitive thread, filled with obnoxious posts that whine and express contempt for the OP. No one wants to read this crap, so there is no danger of an outsider or newcomer being corrupted by the content.
When I closed the thread for one day, BillRyan protested and said that the moderator had to go! Another member posted that he deeply resented my closing the thread for a day. Well, rainman, if you really believe this thread should be closed how come you aren't arguing with BillRyan and other members who are objecting to its closure? Where's the integrity of your beliefs?
All I see are members who enjoy feuding with other members. I guess that's just part of the rich pageant of social media -universally, not just here in WOV. But I do applaud the members who previously posted their viewpoints on this thread but have chosen to stop. IMO, they passed the "emotional intelligence test" that EB seems to be challenging us with.
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I'm always triggered by those that attempt to deceive others. I am especially agitated when I see those with
knowledge and wisdom use it to take advantage of those without.
Your words ring true with me and are full of wisdom, I will never post in this thread again.
So let it be written so let it be done.
July 23rd, 2023 at 12:06:36 PM
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I mean I can and have done roulette systems with greater than 80% hit rate where I win more OFTEN than not.
Note that winning more OFTEN doesn't guarantee profit over time
Wagering on 35 out of 38 numbers will guarantee a hit rate over 80% more OFTEN than not.
And if I only wagered once per day or when losing did some huge multiple of a martingale when I lose I could make exactly the same claims EB does and show a profit over XXX time even though it's still a losing system.
Note that winning more OFTEN doesn't guarantee profit over time
Wagering on 35 out of 38 numbers will guarantee a hit rate over 80% more OFTEN than not.
And if I only wagered once per day or when losing did some huge multiple of a martingale when I lose I could make exactly the same claims EB does and show a profit over XXX time even though it's still a losing system.
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
July 23rd, 2023 at 12:12:57 PM
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I'm almost certain he said his system has nothing to do with biased wheels. Even if that were the case, I don't think you could achieve an 80% hit rate without the bias being glaringly obvious.Quote: MDawg
Over all, he seems to be either advocating some kind of "reading randomness" theory, or he really has figured out how to determine a bias in even statistically unbiased roulette wheels.
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 23rd, 2023 at 12:40:46 PM
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Simple, Just show Mike. You can read one of my earlier posts on how to do this.Quote: EvenBob. I don't post the current casino records because it shows exactly what I do, exactly what my bets are, and that's nobody's business.
There are multiple ways.
I don't have access to any of the locations you play at, but it's fairly standard to have a deposit and withdraw section and account balance. Why not just live stream to Mike showing him you have multiple accounts all with a positive balance sheet?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 23rd, 2023 at 12:43:46 PM
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Quote: rainmanQuote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolf[My next quote is all that matters....
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All that matters is you want this done or don't you. If you want it done tell me what you want me to prove. If you want me to prove that I beat roulette more often than I don't, I can do that. If you want me to prove my more sophisticated method that's a totally different story because there I run into the same problems I ran into with Mike. Make up your mind, do you want me to prove it or don't you. Because isn't the question whether I beat roulette, isn't that what I'm constantly accused of not doing?
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You will provide nothing that proves long term success mathematically or monetarily.
This is the part where if he says yes prove it you jerk him around for the next year
and if he says no you say you offered to prove it and this charade continues.
Your house of cards is crumbling soon everyone will stop playing your little game
and or you will get Perma banned.
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 23rd, 2023 at 12:55:44 PM
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Showing you have an 80% hit rate would be significantly more powerful in supporting your claim. It would take far fewer trials to convince everyone.Quote: EvenBob
Everybody here claims that I cannot and do not beat roulette. Not a single person here says Bob, we believe you beat roulette but we just don't believe the 80% part. Every person here says they do not believe I beat roulette so that's obviously what I have to prove. That I win more often than I lose. That's beating a game is it not? If you think I have to prove more than that, that's your problem. Because you have said over and over that I don't beat it, correct?
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I'm willing to bet you couldn't even cherry-pick a group of 60 bets where you achieved an 80% hit rate while betting even money bets.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 23rd, 2023 at 1:44:10 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfSo you're saying someone could figure out how your system/method works by just knowing what bets you make on coin-flip type of bets?
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Yes, obviously. And I don't do coin flip bets. Just because the bet is even chance doesn't mean it's the same as a coin flip. What's wrong with what I proposed you think I have some kind of magic way of changing the outcomes on online casino stat boards?
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 23rd, 2023 at 1:46:59 PM
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Im 100% certain you don't have a winning system/method of beating roulette. If I did, I would've taken you up on the opportunity when you offered. Or did you forget about that? May I present the contents of a few private messages regarding this?
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If I wanted private things to be public I would not have made them private. You should have taken me up on it I was an idiot to make it. But I didn't know then when I know now.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 23rd, 2023 at 1:49:29 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfSimple, Just show Mike. You can read one of my earlier posts on how to do this.Quote: EvenBob. I don't post the current casino records because it shows exactly what I do, exactly what my bets are, and that's nobody's business.
There are multiple ways.
I don't have access to any of the locations you play at, but it's fairly standard to have a deposit and withdraw section and account balance. Why not just live stream to Mike showing him you have multiple accounts all with a positive balance sheet?
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And just for fun maybe you can email me copies of your tax returns so I can see how much money you make. Get it, got it?
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 23rd, 2023 at 1:56:13 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfShowing you have an 80% hit rate would be significantly more powerful in supporting your claim. It would take far fewer trials to convince everyone.
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In actuality it would take far far MORE trials and that's the problem. You act like I can just turn on the computer and start betting and I've explained to you dozens of times that's not how it works yet you act like you've never heard of this before. I'm starting to wonder if you truly don't remember all the details I've given you in the past and you pretending not to remember isn't just an act. Some days I can't make any bets at all because I don't see any bets that I can make at 80%. . Sound familiar, heard that before? That's because I've said it about two dozen times.
Just proving I can win at roulette more often than I lose is easy because I'll use progressions, I'll use whatever I want to come out ahead in the end because I'll be playing for almost no money. If I'm playing for 10 cents what do I care how long a progression lasts I'll still be winning in the end. And if you think that's guaranteed you go ahead and try it.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 23rd, 2023 at 2:20:57 PM
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So you want to prove something different than what you've been claiming all this time?Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolfShowing you have an 80% hit rate would be significantly more powerful in supporting your claim. It would take far fewer trials to convince everyone.
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In actuality it would take far far MORE trials and that's the problem. You act like I can just turn on the computer and start betting and I've explained to you dozens of times that's not how it works yet you act like you've never heard of this before. I'm starting to wonder if you truly don't remember all the details I've given you in the past and you pretending not to remember isn't just an act. Some days I can't make any bets at all because I don't see any bets that I can make at 80%. . Sound familiar, heard that before? That's because I've said it about two dozen times.
Just proving I can win at roulette more often than I lose is easy because I'll use progressions, I'll use whatever I want to come out ahead in the end because I'll be playing for almost no money. If I'm playing for 10 cents what do I care how long a progression lasts I'll still be winning in the end. And if you think that's guaranteed you go ahead and try it.
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You claimed you were flat betting.
You claimed an 80% hit rate.
Of course, various progression SYSTEMS will win more often than they lose.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 23rd, 2023 at 2:28:13 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfYou claimed you were flat betting. You claimed an 80% hit rate. Of course, various progression SYSTEMS will win more often than they lose.
*spews coffee, hurls cat*
Nice catch there, Axel.
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave ..."
"What, me worry?"
July 23rd, 2023 at 2:31:19 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfSo you want to prove something different than what you've been claiming all this time?
You claimed you were flat betting.
You claimed an 80% hit rate.
Of course, various progression SYSTEMS will win more often than they lose.
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I want to prove that I win at roulette because everybody here says I do not win roulette. Why do you give one flying F how I do it when you just said a few posts ago that I don't win, that I have no method to beat roulette. And if you think various progression systems will win more often than they lose all the time, you're 1,000% wrong. Just go and read what Mike says about progressions, they are guaranteed losers. The only time they are guaranteed winners is if you have a winning method already and don't even need a progression and that's where I am. If you have a winning method like I do, using a progression just puts it on steroids. Because you never get that deep into the progression, obviously.
So you don't want me to just prove that I can walk on water, you want me to prove that I can walk on water and tap dance and juggle at the same time. Which tells me that you actually do believe I do what I say I can do.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 23rd, 2023 at 2:33:20 PM
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Trials, as in the actual bets you make when you believe you have a shot at an 80% hit rate.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolfShowing you have an 80% hit rate would be significantly more powerful in supporting your claim. It would take far fewer trials to convince everyone.
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In actuality it would take far far MORE trials and that's the problem. You act like I can just turn on the computer and start betting and I've explained to you dozens of times that's not how it works yet you act like you've never heard of this before. I'm starting to wonder if you truly don't remember all the details I've given you in the past and you pretending not to remember isn't just an act. Some days I can't make any bets at all because I don't see any bets that I can make at 80%. . Sound familiar, heard that before? That's because I've said it about two dozen times.
If you found one on average of only every 3 days... after 3 months and 30 trials if you were getting an 80% hit rate, that would be enough to convince me.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 23rd, 2023 at 2:56:43 PM
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I don't know what you are claiming Mike said. I do believe you don't actually comprehend how and why some progression systems win way more often than they lose. You can certainly achieve a 95% success rate given the proper bankroll and progression system. So yeah, it drastically matters how you win.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolfSo you want to prove something different than what you've been claiming all this time?
You claimed you were flat betting.
You claimed an 80% hit rate.
Of course, various progression SYSTEMS will win more often than they lose.
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I want to prove that I win at roulette because everybody here says I do not win roulette. Why do you give one flying F how I do it when you just said a few posts ago that I don't win, that I have no method to beat roulette. And if you think various progression systems will win more often than they lose all the time, you're 1,000% wrong. Just go and read what Mike says about progressions, they are guaranteed losers. The only time they are guaranteed winners is if you have a winning method already and don't even need a progression and that's where I am. If you have a winning method like I do, using a progression just puts it on steroids. Because you never get that deep into the progression, obviously.
So you don't want me to just prove that I can walk on water, you want me to prove that I can walk on water and tap dance and juggle at the same time. Which tells me that you actually do believe I do what I say I can do.
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 23rd, 2023 at 3:07:16 PM
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Quote: EvenBobSo you don't want me to just prove that I can walk on water...
Jesus Christ !
Quote: EvenBobThe only time they are guaranteed winners is if you have a winning method already and don't even need a progression and that's where I am. If you have a winning method like I do, using a progression just puts it on steroids.
This just in: the Congressional committee investigating UFO's just confirmed that an alien who identifies as a "Curmudgeon" from planet Phony-Baloney has set up a base in western Michigan and is now sucking all of our online casinos dry.
He claims his superior intellect and alien technology gives him the powers of god, and no, he refuses to share.
Be afraid, be very afraid.
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"What, me worry?"
July 23rd, 2023 at 3:07:56 PM
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Quote: MrVQuote: AxelWolfYou claimed you were flat betting. You claimed an 80% hit rate. Of course, various progression SYSTEMS will win more often than they lose.
*spews coffee, hurls cat*
Nice catch there, Axel.
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave ..."
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Hey, he's the one that said he wants to prove he can beat
roulette. I took him at his word, but so far it's been like pulling
teeth. I'm almost starting to think he's avoiding having to prove it.
As a self proclaimed roulette expert, what is he afraid of?
I wonder who said something very similar to this? https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/10453-mauisunset-roulette/8/#post164707
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 23rd, 2023 at 3:14:48 PM
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He believes in his system so much that he's "paying the bills" while betting 10 cents a spin.Quote: MrVQuote: EvenBobSo you don't want me to just prove that I can walk on water...
Jesus Christ !Quote: EvenBobThe only time they are guaranteed winners is if you have a winning method already and don't even need a progression and that's where I am. If you have a winning method like I do, using a progression just puts it on steroids.
This just in: the Congressional committee investigating UFO's just confirmed that an alien who identifies as a "Curmudgeon" from planet Phony-Baloney has set up a base in western Michigan and is now sucking all of our online casinos dry.
He claims his superior intellect and alien technology gives him the powers of god, an no, he refuses to share.
Be afraid, be very afraid.
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That's why It's nobody's business because A) there is no proof, and B) it's totally and completely embarrassing how much he's actually betting.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 23rd, 2023 at 3:27:27 PM
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This thread is right up there with the one about the blackjack software trainer that someone said was rigged to lose. Wish I could find that, it's also good for a laugh.
July 23rd, 2023 at 3:27:31 PM
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EvenBob: "I want to prove that I win at roulette because everybody here says I do not win roulette."
"I want to prove that I win at roulette"
No, you don't. You just want to pretend you do just to keep us on the hook. I came up with several ideas about how you could, Mike gave you a chance. I could come up with every possible way and you'll come up with some BS excuse.
It seems to me you want to find a way that can be pure luck, manipulated, cherrypicked, or faked.
Why don't you tell us how you want to prove it?
As a self proclaimed roulette expert, what are you afraid of?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 23rd, 2023 at 3:47:10 PM
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Why don't you tell us how you want to prove it?
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I want to make bets over a. period of time and in a consistent manner win more than I lose. How I do it should be irrelevant it's the fact that I can do it that counts because you say I can't, everybody here says I can't. But you want everything, you don't just want proof that I win. You want everything handed to you on a silver platter, my more sophisticated method, exactly how I do it. Blah blah blah.
So what's it going to be, for all the name calling that's gone on in this thread about what a fraud I am here I am willing to prove that I do what I say I do, and you seem to be the only one that's interested. Why do you think that is. Because if I do prove it, it means they were wrong and they won't be able to stand it.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 23rd, 2023 at 4:08:31 PM
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Why don't you tell us how you want to prove it?
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I want to make bets over a. period of time and in a consistent manner win more than I lose. How I do it should be irrelevant it's the fact that I can do it that counts because you say I can't, everybody here says I can't. But you want everything, you don't just want proof that I win. You want everything handed to you on a silver platter, my more sophisticated method, exactly how I do it. Blah blah blah.
So what's it going to be, for all the name calling that's gone on in this thread about what a fraud I am here I am willing to prove that I do what I say I do, and you seem to be the only one that's interested. Why do you think that is. Because if I do prove it, it means they were wrong and they won't be able to stand it.
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This is very simple and has been proposed to you many times (including at least once by me). You have play online 100% in State Licensed Casinos in your home state for the last five years. Post your logs from the Casino you play the most at (you have claimed to play daily so there should be a lot of data.) This can be done in about five minutes. In a couple of minutes you can prove that you are a long-term winner at roulette in a way that nobody can dispute.
You can post your annual W/L statements for the last five years (100% online they are 100% accurate, no claims of the floor not calculating correctly or a machine not registering your card, etc....) Transaction reports would show the total amount of winnings and withdrawals, and bet logs would show history of each play (and what game.) This can be uploaded and not a single skeptic can refute it.
You could prove you are a long-term winner (for at least the last five years) in about how long it took me to type out this post.
Five years of logs with daily (or almost daily) play and consistent winnings would shut up all of the doubters. If you don't want to post them send them to one of the mods, I am sure they would be happy to manually verify (and in turn post if they show a long term winner.)
The logs would also confirm that you are a long term winner without using any bonuses or rewards schemes (purely from play.)
July 23rd, 2023 at 4:32:52 PM
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I'll say it again, I don't want to learn your system. Again, you offered me the opportunity. IIRC I said I would be willing to help you, but I wouldn't invest(not that you asked) take action, or anything like that because I don't believe it's even possible. I wouldn't have said that if I was interested in learning your system.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolf
Why don't you tell us how you want to prove it?
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I want to make bets over a. period of time and in a consistent manner win more than I lose. How I do it should be irrelevant it's the fact that I can do it that counts because you say I can't, everybody here says I can't. But you want everything, you don't just want proof that I win. You want everything handed to you on a silver platter, my more sophisticated method, exactly how I do it. Blah blah blah.
If you wanted some help in some way with something that wasn't a big task I would consider doing so, with no strings attached or nefarious reasons. Why, because that's who I am. I may argue, razz, and give you grief about nonsense on the forum, but contrary to popular belief, I don't hate Bob.
You know damn well it matters how you win, over how many bets, and at what percentage if you are trying to prove you have a winning method. If you don't know that then you know absolutely nothing about mathematics and gambling. Perhaps someone can articulate it to you with mathematical statistics, better than I can.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 23rd, 2023 at 5:28:04 PM
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Quote: GandlerYou have play online 100% in State Licensed Casinos in your home state for the last five years.
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Really, how did I do that. The casino portion of online betting in my state went into effect in September 2021 that's less than 2 years ago. As far as the rest of your post, why would I do any of that. Would you post your last 3 years of income tax returns online if I asked you to so I can see how much money you have made? I don't think so but that's what you're asking me to do. How on Earth is it any of your business how much money I make in the casinos.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 23rd, 2023 at 5:34:50 PM
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You know damn well it matters how you win, over how many bets, and at what percentage if you are trying to prove you have a winning method.
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Really? So you think when I go to a casino and win they stop me at the door with my winnings and say, sorry sir, your method of playing was legitimate but we didn't really like it so we're not going to let you leave here with our money. Lol
A winner is a winner is a winner, if you can do it consistently what difference does it make how you get there if it's legitimate. You just want me to do it your way that's what this comes down to. Frankly I don't have a lot of time to mess around with this, I'm extremely busy this summer as I am every summer working outside three or four hours a day. Last year I built garage all by myself and this year I'm putting in a 300 sq ft patio all by myself among other things. I have very little time to screw around with roulette, and even less time to cowtow to your ridiculous demands. So we either do this my way or we don't do it at all. Winning is winning is winning and you say I can't do it and I say I can do it and I can prove it.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 23rd, 2023 at 6:08:30 PM
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If that's the case, I too have a winning roulette system/method that's just as good or better than yours. Mine is significantly less complicated, much quicker, and I can use mine on many different games and platforms including RNG games.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolf
You know damn well it matters how you win, over how many bets, and at what percentage if you are trying to prove you have a winning method.
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Really? So you think when I go to a casino and win they stop me at the door with my winnings and say, sorry sir, your method of playing was legitimate but we didn't really like it so we're not going to let you leave here with our money. Lol
A winner is a winner is a winner, if you can do it consistently what difference does it make how you get there if it's legitimate. Winning is winning is winning and you say I can't do it and I say I can do it and I can prove it.
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I say I can do it and I can prove it.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 23rd, 2023 at 6:13:10 PM
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Actually, I have multiple systems/methods, some that actually work long-term and can even be proven with mathematics.Quote: AxelWolfIf that's the case, I too have a winning roulette system/method that's just as good or better than yours. Mine is significantly less complicated, much quicker, and I can use mine on many different games and platforms including RNG games.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolf
You know damn well it matters how you win, over how many bets, and at what percentage if you are trying to prove you have a winning method.
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Really? So you think when I go to a casino and win they stop me at the door with my winnings and say, sorry sir, your method of playing was legitimate but we didn't really like it so we're not going to let you leave here with our money. Lol
A winner is a winner is a winner, if you can do it consistently what difference does it make how you get there if it's legitimate. Winning is winning is winning and you say I can't do it and I say I can do it and I can prove it.
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I say I can do it and I can prove it.
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 23rd, 2023 at 6:25:36 PM
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Of course, various progression SYSTEMS will win more often than they lose.
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"Not only do betting systems fail to beat casino games with a house advantage, they can’t even dent it. Roulette balls and dice simply have no memory. Every spin in roulette and every toss in craps is independent of all past events. In the short run, you can fool yourself into thinking a betting system works, by risking a lot to win a little. However, in the long run no betting system can withstand the test of time. The longer you play, the ratio of money lost to money bet will get closer to the expectation for that game." Wizard of Odds https://wizardofodds.com/gambling/betting-systems/
Mike then goes on to list all the different progressions. Why you think various progressions will win more than they lose is a mystery, because it certainly is not reality. The only reason I win with the progressions because I already win. A progression just adds risk and speeds it up but it still wins. For me.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 23rd, 2023 at 6:27:38 PM
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Actually, I have multiple systems/methods, some that actually work long-term and can even be proven with mathematics.
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I don't care, has nothing to do with what we're doing here. I offered a way to prove that I win more than I lose take it or leave it because it's all you're going to get.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 23rd, 2023 at 7:00:33 PM
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The fact that you don't understand why certain progression systems win more often than they lose is very telling about your gambling and math knowledge.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolf
Of course, various progression SYSTEMS will win more often than they lose.
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"Not only do betting systems fail to beat casino games with a house advantage, they can’t even dent it. Roulette balls and dice simply have no memory. Every spin in roulette and every toss in craps is independent of all past events. In the short run, you can fool yourself into thinking a betting system works, by risking a lot to win a little. However, in the long run no betting system can withstand the test of time. The longer you play, the ratio of money lost to money bet will get closer to the expectation for that game." Wizard of Odds https://wizardofodds.com/gambling/betting-systems/
Mike then goes on to list all the different progressions. Why you think various progressions will win more than they lose is a mystery, because it certainly is not reality. The only reason I win with the progressions because I already win. A progression just adds risk and speeds it up but it still wins. For me.
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By all means prove it your way. Let Mike say if your method of proof constitutes proof.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 23rd, 2023 at 7:01:13 PM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: GandlerYou have play online 100% in State Licensed Casinos in your home state for the last five years.
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Really, how did I do that. The casino portion of online betting in my state went into effect in September 2021 that's less than 2 years ago. As far as the rest of your post, why would I do any of that. Would you post your last 3 years of income tax returns online if I asked you to so I can see how much money you have made? I don't think so but that's what you're asking me to do. How on Earth is it any of your business how much money I make in the casinos.
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Sorry, then I misremembered, I thought you said 5 years online. Still two years of records with daily play would be powerful.
If I made an outlandish claim about my income like I can make 20k a month with some online business, and made a thread telling everyone how my online automation business was perfect and always profits without providing details, then asking for my tax returns would be reasonable. But, this is not your tax returns, this is simply your casino logs. It would show that you are a consistent winner, nobody really cares the amount (the feat would be equally impressive if you consistently win 20 cents daily for 200 dollars daily), it just shows play and win history. (Or you can post it to a third party who would reveal no details except "plays 3 times a week average, X bets per session average, and is a long term winner).
When you make a claim you can either explain the process or demonstrate that it works by results (casino logs), and clearly you have no interest in explaining the process.
July 23rd, 2023 at 7:13:00 PM
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Its goes to show that you have painstakingly kept track of roulette numbers and studied patterns for years in order to supposedly make just enough to pay your bills while betting micro stakes. Meanwhile, you aren't doing anything special, you took something some can learn to do in 5 minutes(win more often than they lose) and made it super duper complicated.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolf
Actually, I have multiple systems/methods, some that actually work long-term and can even be proven with mathematics.
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I don't care, has nothing to do with what we're doing here. I offered a way to prove that I win more than I lose take it or leave it because it's all you're going to get.
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I must have missed where you offered a way to show proof. As far as I know, you have only offered up what you believe would be proof. In what way will you accomplish showing proof?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 23rd, 2023 at 7:17:44 PM
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It also shows that if you are a roulette expert, I'm your Grand Master.Quote: AxelWolfIts goes to show that you have painstakingly kept track of roulette numbers and studied patterns for years in order to supposedly make just enough to pay your bills while betting micro stakes. Meanwhile, you aren't doing anything special, you took something some can learn to do in 5 minutes(win more often than they lose) and made it super duper complicated.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolf
Actually, I have multiple systems/methods, some that actually work long-term and can even be proven with mathematics.
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I don't care, has nothing to do with what we're doing here. I offered a way to prove that I win more than I lose take it or leave it because it's all you're going to get.
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I must have missed where you offered a way to show proof. As far as I know, you have only offered up what you believe would be proof. In what way will you accomplish showing proof?
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 23rd, 2023 at 9:32:08 PM
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I must have missed where you offered a way to show proof.
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Not surprising, by what you're posting you missed everything and guessed wrongly about everything else.
You keep saying to post my online playing records so I'm going to make bets for minimum amounts
showing that I win more often than I lose and I'm going to post those records. From them you will learn
that I have beaten roulette but that's all you'll learn which I'm sure will not be acceptable to you.
You want to keep wriggling and squirming until you find a way to figure out exactly what I'm doing.
And it's not just you, I want the consensus of a bunch of people here that that will be good enough or
I will withdraw the offer. I'm not wasting my time only to be told it's not enough in the end.
As far as progressions go if you think you have a method that wins go for it and then show Mike that he's wrong.
I'm not holding my breath. A progression is just an extension of whatever play you're doing. If it's a bad play it's
going to magnify it. But if it's a good play, if it's a winning method as mine is, the progression will just magnify it
for the positive. If it's a bad play all a progression does is prolongs the inevitable loss. If you have a good play what
a progression does is it magnifies the win and shortens the time it takes to reach your goal. But there is risk involved
if you're playing for real money, there's always risk. But if you're playing for minimal amounts the risk is very minimal.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 24th, 2023 at 12:33:41 AM
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Quote: EvenBob...I'm going to make bets for minimum amounts showing that I win more often than I lose and I'm going to post those records. From them you will learn
that I have beaten roulette but that's all you'll learn which I'm sure will not be acceptable to you.
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That is not true on a few levels.
1) You are not going to post any such evidence. You just aren't.
2) If you start today and play some progressive at minimum stakes, that will not prove anything except that a progression can win more often that it loses. It will not prove anything that you did before today. It will not prove that you have beaten roulette, ever. Not day in day out for years.
Prove what you claimed. Nothing more, nothing less. If you can't remember what you claimed, see all the other posts in this thread.
You don't have to demonstrate how you did it, just that you did it.
But I'm not holding my breath. I doubt you will ever prove ANYTHING.
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
July 24th, 2023 at 1:20:59 AM
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You say that if you show us certain results, that would show us exactly what you do
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I said I can produce results that will show that I beat roulette more often than I lose. If you want proof of more sophisticated methods that I use that's a lot harder will take a lot longer and will cut drastically into me playing for real money which I'm not really willing to do. But you claim that I can't even beat roulette at all, that I'm a fraud and a joke so all you really need to see is that I win more often than I lose. I'm willing to do that, but before I get started I need affirmation and you people seem to be beating around the bush. As I just told Axel, crap or get off the pot, do you want to see this or don't you. And if I do show that I win more often than I lose will that shut you up about it?
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I PMSL when I saw YOU say "Crap or get off the pot"
"And if I do show that I win more often than I lose will that shut you up about it?"
No.
Show that you WON more often than you lost!
And then it's a YES!
Prove ANY of your prior claims. Prove them any way you wish. No-one gives a damn about your method or any aspect of how you DID it.
It's nothing but an empty offer. Prove ANY previous claim, or prove that you have ANY special ability. Then we'll shut up.
If you prove any of your prior claims about beating roulette, day in day out for many years, even many weeks, I'll be delighted to shut up about it. You won't. You don't intend to. You CANNOT.
You can not prove what is not true. It was not true, ergo, you cannot prove it, ergo you will not prove it!
If you prove anything else, that will be ignored. If you prove that there is a way of winning every day for many days with some progressive, that will not be proof of anything, because we all know that if you are prepared to risk a modest bankroll of say $100, then even a martingale starting at 10c would easily win every day over a whole month. Hell, I've demonstrated how to have 45 consecutive winning BlackJack sessions for real and significant stakes with no advantage whatsoever. Proves nothing remarkable. And hell, your claims have been remarkable!
Your claims are on another level altogether. Don't remember your claims? See the rest of this thread.
So if you propose to demonstrate anything else, forget it. It's not proof of any part of your original claims. Not proof that you beat roulette over years or decades. Not proof of anything.
CRAP or get off the pot!
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
July 24th, 2023 at 9:17:08 AM
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Here's what I'm going to prove, that I when I play roulette I win more often than I lose and always come out ahead. As far as my other claims of a more sophisticated method, who cares. The main thing here is you all say, every single one of you, that I do not beat roulette. Not one person here says Bob, we believe you beat roulette, we just don't believe that you do it with your method. Nope nope nope, you all categorically say that I do not win. That I do not beat the game..
So that's what I need to show, that I can beat the game. If you want more than that, tough luck. You are accusing me of not even being able to do the basics, so that's what you get shown is, that I can beat the basics. Of course you want more than that because you will always 100% of the time want more. This is what I'm offering to give, take it or leave it. Why should I produce more than that, what would be the point. It's like if I said I had 500 pieces of gold and you said that you don't even believe I have one piece of gold. So I say if I produce one piece of gold, will that be enough to satisfy you? And you say no no no, we need to see all 500 pieces of gold and I say but you don't even believe I have one so that's all I should have to produce is one. Get it? Got it?
So that's what I need to show, that I can beat the game. If you want more than that, tough luck. You are accusing me of not even being able to do the basics, so that's what you get shown is, that I can beat the basics. Of course you want more than that because you will always 100% of the time want more. This is what I'm offering to give, take it or leave it. Why should I produce more than that, what would be the point. It's like if I said I had 500 pieces of gold and you said that you don't even believe I have one piece of gold. So I say if I produce one piece of gold, will that be enough to satisfy you? And you say no no no, we need to see all 500 pieces of gold and I say but you don't even believe I have one so that's all I should have to produce is one. Get it? Got it?
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 24th, 2023 at 9:38:09 AM
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Cool.
Do it.
Can't wait to see!
July 24th, 2023 at 9:57:49 AM
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Quote: EvenBobHere's what I'm going to prove, that I when I play roulette I win more often than I lose and always come out ahead.
Gee, this sounds familiar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib3Y-Q3QnOk
"What, me worry?"
July 24th, 2023 at 10:32:31 AM
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Given what you have said so far, that wouldn't prove jack splat.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolf
I must have missed where you offered a way to show proof.
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Not surprising, by what you're posting you missed everything and guessed wrongly about everything else.
You keep saying to post my online playing records so I'm going to make bets for minimum amounts
showing that I win more often than I lose and I'm going to post those records. From them you will learn
that I have beaten roulette but that's all you'll learn which I'm sure will not be acceptable to you.
You want to keep wriggling and squirming until you find a way to figure out exactly what I'm doing.
And it's not just you, I want the consensus of a bunch of people here that that will be good enough or
I will withdraw the offer. I'm not wasting my time only to be told it's not enough in the end.
As far as progressions go if you think you have a method that wins go for it and then show Mike that he's wrong.
I'm not holding my breath. A progression is just an extension of whatever play you're doing. If it's a bad play it's
going to magnify it. But if it's a good play, if it's a winning method as mine is, the progression will just magnify it
for the positive. If it's a bad play all a progression does is prolongs the inevitable loss. If you have a good play what
a progression does is it magnifies the win and shortens the time it takes to reach your goal. But there is risk involved
if you're playing for real money, there's always risk. But if you're playing for minimal amounts the risk is very minimal.
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There has to be a predetermined set of protocols.
Location, what online casinos(to make sure there's no cherry-picking), start date(to make sure there's no cherry-picking), number of trials(to make sure there's no cherry-picking, suddenly stopping because you are up and continuing of you are down). You must tell us if you plan on flat betting or if you are using progression betting (for obvious reasons you don't seem to understand).
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 24th, 2023 at 10:37:26 AM
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Cool.
Do it.
Can't wait to see!
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This is what I want to see. All the people who want their cake and eat it too are not going to get what they want. It's either one of the other you can't have both. And I'm only offering one.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 24th, 2023 at 10:42:02 AM
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Quote: AxelWolfGiven what you have said so far, that wouldn't prove jack splat.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolf
I must have missed where you offered a way to show proof.
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Not surprising, by what you're posting you missed everything and guessed wrongly about everything else.
You keep saying to post my online playing records so I'm going to make bets for minimum amounts
showing that I win more often than I lose and I'm going to post those records. From them you will learn
that I have beaten roulette but that's all you'll learn which I'm sure will not be acceptable to you.
You want to keep wriggling and squirming until you find a way to figure out exactly what I'm doing.
And it's not just you, I want the consensus of a bunch of people here that that will be good enough or
I will withdraw the offer. I'm not wasting my time only to be told it's not enough in the end.
As far as progressions go if you think you have a method that wins go for it and then show Mike that he's wrong.
I'm not holding my breath. A progression is just an extension of whatever play you're doing. If it's a bad play it's
going to magnify it. But if it's a good play, if it's a winning method as mine is, the progression will just magnify it
for the positive. If it's a bad play all a progression does is prolongs the inevitable loss. If you have a good play what
a progression does is it magnifies the win and shortens the time it takes to reach your goal. But there is risk involved
if you're playing for real money, there's always risk. But if you're playing for minimal amounts the risk is very minimal.
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There has to be a predetermined set of protocols.
Location, what online casinos(to make sure there's no cherry-picking), start date(to make sure there's no cherry-picking), number of trials(to make sure there's no cherry-picking, suddenly stopping because you are up and continuing of you are down). You must tell us if you plan on flat betting or if you are using progression betting (for obvious reasons you don't seem to understand).
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Nope, I don't have to do any of that. I will post my outcomes which are obviously dated and that's it. They will be all strung together with no possibility of being edited. Of course I'll cherry pick, what do you think I do just sit down and bet everything I see? Of course if I'm ahead I'm going to stop, do you think I just keep playing till I lose? You have no idea what you're talking about or how this works. I'm there to make a profit, to make units, that's all that counts, it's called beating the game. Duh..
You go ahead and try it and see if you come out ahead, I dare you.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 24th, 2023 at 10:44:09 AM
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Cue EvenBob demonstrating a progressive system starting with a modest or unlimited bankroll and a 10c online wager. He'll proceed to win maybe 31 sessions out of 31, each time profiting by at least 10c. Winning every session. Then he'll proclaim "There. I just won 31 sessions out of 31. You saw me beat roulette. You said I couldn't do it. There's your proof that I win more often that I lose and I always come out ahead".
Which is like hopping once on one leg and saying "There, I just proved to you that can I can fly."
Any idiot could demonstrate that. One might dress it up a bit by using any sort of progression on any selection of wagers. E.g. simultaneous wager on Odd and Black, or mingling it in with a few no-bets.
Anyway. Whatever. Prove what the heck you want to prove, EvenBob. I could do with a laugh.
Incidentally,
With absolutely simplest Martingale, starting at 10c, and a $100 bankroll, playing single zero roulette, to go bust, one would need to lose ten consecutive wagers. Probability of going bust on any day = (19/37)^10 =0.001275.
So. The probability of NOT going bust on day one is 1-0.001275=0.998725
So, The probability of winning at least 10c every single day of a 31 day month is 0.998725^31 = 96.12%
So. If EvenBob demonstrated winning every day of 31 consecutive days, would we be impressed?
And if anyone claimed that to be a demonstration of beating roulette, would we all laugh heartilly.
But go on EvenBob. Knock yourself out. Use whatever proof you want.
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
