Can Roulette Be Beaten?
July 15th, 2023 at 9:07:46 AM
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Quote: AxelWolf
You claim 80% hit rate. Then you claim you can't,
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Nope, I've never said I can't that would be ridiculous. My hit rate is 80%. When it's playing my game. You always leave that part of it out, the playing my game part, because you know it's the most important part. I never claim to hit 80% every time in every situation I'd be a bajillionaire. I only bet when the outcomes are correct, and I'm not going to explain it again because you know this.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 15th, 2023 at 11:16:24 AM
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I don't believe Axel plays at US online casinos. If your question is about offshore, he is a good person to ask.Quote: tuttigymHey Axel, Do online casinos provide players with W2G's or some such tax reporting instruments? Do you know what is required of online casinos regarding net wins over any given period of time? Just askin'
tuttigym
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US casinos will issue a W-2G for slot wins of $1200 or more. You may be issued a form in real time by some casinos causing the game to be closed. Most casino create the form in the background and put it in you transaction log. Almost half the casinos do not even do this. You can wait until February when they make the list available or you can ask support to send you a listing at any time. A few casinos have no way to opt out of paper mailed forms.
I believe the limit for table games is $5000, but I have never received a W-2G for table game wins. I have a dozen of wins greater than $5000 for Bingo BlackJack this year, but DK does list W-2Gs forms, so I will find out in February.
No casino issues tax forms for aggregate wins over multiple wagers. The sports books may do this if they think you made a series of small identical bets on one outcome to avoid tax reporting.
Gambling is a math contest where the score is tracked in dollars. Try not to get a negative score.
July 15th, 2023 at 1:29:32 PM
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Quote: EvenBob
Nope, I've never said I can't that would be ridiculous. My hit rate is 80%. When it's playing my game. You always leave that part of it out, the playing my game part, because you know it's the most important part. I never claim to hit 80% every time in every situation I'd be a bajillionaire. I only bet when the outcomes are correct, and I'm not going to explain it again because you know this.
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What the **** is this nonsensical drivel..... LOL.... Lord help us. Or at least help EvenBob.
July 15th, 2023 at 1:41:36 PM
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EB does march to the beat of a different drummer: a deaf, crippled, talentless drummer.
What a whopper he just told, about how he only hits eighty percent when playing his game, then he said he only plays when "the outcomes are correct."
Does not compute.
I haven't seen this sort of whimsy since I watched Mickey Mouse as the Sorcerer's Apprentice try to sweep the flood waters with a broom in Disney's "Fantasia" during my college days, and yes, I was high on acid at the time.
What a whopper he just told, about how he only hits eighty percent when playing his game, then he said he only plays when "the outcomes are correct."
Does not compute.
I haven't seen this sort of whimsy since I watched Mickey Mouse as the Sorcerer's Apprentice try to sweep the flood waters with a broom in Disney's "Fantasia" during my college days, and yes, I was high on acid at the time.
"What, me worry?"
July 15th, 2023 at 2:40:11 PM
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You just bet more on the winning bets and less on the rest. It really is that simple.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
July 15th, 2023 at 2:49:32 PM
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Quote: EvenBobAs far as making things up in my mind, where else would I make them up, in my foot? In my left hand? LOL
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It’s probably from that lump on your shoulders. However, your foot being in your mouth a lot makes it more possible that it’s coming from your foot in some sort of transference effect.
Sanitized for Your Protection
July 15th, 2023 at 3:41:59 PM
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Mental is correct I don't often play regulated online casinos since Nevada only offers sports and some poker. I have played in regulated online casinos for sports/Slots/BJ/VP/Roullet. I have generated a W2G that was sent in the mail. But I believe they now mostly have Digital Downloading available " You're WTG for the 20xx is now available for download.Quote: tuttigymQuote: AxelWolfQuote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolf
My first bet I hit at 80 percent
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Yep, that's when I bet. How often do you think I bet. You seem to be an expert on everything I've said so tell me, how often do you think I bet. I just observed 15 spins how many times did I bet during those 15 spins. This is an easy question for somebody who seems to know everything about what I do. So go ahead, answer it, smart guy.
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I'm certainly not an expert on everything you said. I don't think anyone could remain sain for long even just being an expert on 10% of the stuff you have said. Just going back to your original math stuff is enough to drive someone batty as all hell.
I do remember some things clearly and others things only vaguely.
How could I possibly know how often you bet? Even if I guessed right, you wouldn't admit it.
At one time, I vaguely remember you saying something about making 1 unit per day, but I don't know exactly what you claimed. You said you make just enough to pay your bills. I will assume $1500 a month I could assume you make 1 bet every 40 ish hours on average. But just before your challenge you conveniently switch it up and said something about making more bets at a lower hit rate. IIRC you dropped all the way down to the 55-60 % range.
You make little sense most of the time when yapping about your fictitious method. To this day you haven't been able to figure out what your advantage is. 5%? 10%? 20% 30%? 50%? 70%? And whatever numbers you have tossed out don't jive with whatever hit rate you are claiming at the time.
You claim 80% hit rate. Then you claim you can't, and now you claim...
Johnzimbo: "My first bet I hit at 80 percent"
EvenBob: "Yep, that's when I bet." EVERYONE knows that is practically impossible over any substantial number of bets.
Wishy-washy, Wishy-washy, Wishy-washy.
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Hey Axel, Do online casinos provide players with W2G's or some such tax reporting instruments? Do you know what is required of online casinos regarding net wins over any given period of time? Just askin'
tuttigym
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1)Got to transactions history ....W2G Tax Form on your mobile device or desktop.
2) Download the W2G foorm.
I hear sports winnings of over 1200 have been reported as W2G's/1099 on occasion, this could be a mistake, I don't know what's up with that. I heard Accumulated casino winnings under 1200 have been reported as well, but I don't know the details. It could be a one-off mistake or reported not as a tax issue, but for suspicious activities.
I would defer to Mental and trust his knowledge on the matter.
To my knowledge, offshore casinos don't report anything to anyone, however, there are thousands of online casinos so you never know. It's super rare for an offshore joint to ask for your Social Security number.
Most unregulated offshore online casinos make you send the front and back of your ID and a utility bill that matches, some require a selfie holding your ID. They pass it off as... we must follow KYC regulations. I'm under the belief that they don't really care about the KYC regulations or money laundering. They only care about multi-accounting, bonus abuse, and delaying payments as long as possible. Most of the time Documents are required AFTER you deposit and only once you attempt to withdraw. A few ask for documents upfront.
But again, there are probably over 10,000 online casinos so there are probably some that are following the laws in their jurisdiction so as to not run foul of the law.
A few offshore joints (it's rare) require your first cash out to be ACH to prove you are a real person.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 15th, 2023 at 3:47:49 PM
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Quote: TigerWuQuote: EvenBob
Nope, I've never said I can't that would be ridiculous. My hit rate is 80%. When it's playing my game. You always leave that part of it out, the playing my game part, because you know it's the most important part. I never claim to hit 80% every time in every situation I'd be a bajillionaire. I only bet when the outcomes are correct, and I'm not going to explain it again because you know this.
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What the **** is this nonsensical drivel..... LOL.... Lord help us. Or at least help EvenB
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I explained all of this in previous threads and now you have no memory of it whatsoever. That shows me how much actual thought you put into it which is absolutely none. Every time I explain something somebody screams contradiction! Contradiction! Which means that they have no understanding of what I wrote in the first place.
Now you want me to repeat it all? Why do you think that's not going to happen.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 15th, 2023 at 4:01:45 PM
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Bob's idea of an 80% hit rate.
Bet #1 = loss, ignore results since it's not playing his game
Bet #2 = loss, ignore results since it's not playing his game
Bet #3 = loss, ignore results since it's not playing his game
Bet #4 = loss, ignore results since it's not playing his game
Bet #5 = loss, ignore results since it's not playing his game
Bet #6 = loss, ignore results since it's not playing his game
Bet #6 = loss, ignore results since it's not playing his game
Bet #9 = loss, ignore results since it's not playing his game
Bet #11= Win, or was that # 10/9, meh, who cares... cus baby, it's playing my game now, I'm now in my 80% hit rate groove.
Bet #1 = loss, ignore results since it's not playing his game
Bet #2 = loss, ignore results since it's not playing his game
Bet #3 = loss, ignore results since it's not playing his game
Bet #4 = loss, ignore results since it's not playing his game
Bet #5 = loss, ignore results since it's not playing his game
Bet #6 = loss, ignore results since it's not playing his game
Bet #6 = loss, ignore results since it's not playing his game
Bet #9 = loss, ignore results since it's not playing his game
Bet #11= Win, or was that # 10/9, meh, who cares... cus baby, it's playing my game now, I'm now in my 80% hit rate groove.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 15th, 2023 at 5:17:54 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfBob's idea of an 80% hit rate.
Bet #1 = loss, ignore results since it's not playing his game
Bet #2 = loss, ignore results since it's not playing his game
Bet #3 = loss, ignore results since it's not playing his game
Bet #4 = loss, ignore results since it's not playing his game
Bet #5 = loss, ignore results since it's not playing his game
Bet #6 = loss, ignore results since it's not playing his game
Bet #6 = loss, ignore results since it's not playing his game
Bet #9 = loss, ignore results since it's not playing his game
Bet #11= Win, or was that # 10/9, meh, who cares... cus baby, it's playing my game now, I'm now in my 80% hit rate groove.
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That's ridiculous. The most I will bet in my head is twice. If I win the first bet I'll do it again and if I win the second one then I'll make a regular bet. If I make a bet in my head and lose I don't bother going on because it's not playing my game. Axel, you understood this well enough a few months ago to suggest I do this on multiple screens and as you know you're right because that's what I do now. So why pretend that you don't know what I'm doing, you know exactly what I'm doing.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 15th, 2023 at 5:29:23 PM
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C'mon you guys really don't get it? Bobs only goal is to keep himself above Axel on the post leader board.
he comes by pours gas on his cat, roulette, walmart, Bob talks in circles threads etc .. to keep his post count rising every so often,
then disappears until the next time.
he comes by pours gas on his cat, roulette, walmart, Bob talks in circles threads etc .. to keep his post count rising every so often,
then disappears until the next time.
July 16th, 2023 at 8:53:25 AM
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Quote: EvenBobThat's ridiculous. The most I will bet in my head is twice. If I win the first bet I'll do it again and if I win the second one then I'll make a regular bet. If I make a bet in my head and lose I don't bother going on because it's not playing my game. Axel, you understood this well enough a few months ago to suggest I do this on multiple screens and as you know you're right because that's what I do now. So why pretend that you don't know what I'm doing, you know exactly what I'm doing.
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There you have it. "Playing my game" is the third time is the rule effect. Two make believe phantom bets using the Vulcan mind meld and then the real deal which hits 80% of the time. Man that is so simple and should be universal in one's attack on roulette. I wonder, is it possible to use it for online craps play? Seems like one could, and it would be more profitable than roulette given the payouts are greater if one were to only hop the 7.
Axel, you need to become more enlightened and learn from the master.
tuttigym
July 16th, 2023 at 11:19:05 AM
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There you have it. "Playing my game" is the third time is the rule effect. Two make believe phantom bets using the Vulcan mind meld and then the real deal which hits 80% of the time.
tuttigym
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But you have to know when to make the virtual bets. You can't just pick any pattern you see and expect it to work there's way more to it than that. If that were true this would be the easiest game in the casino to beat. LOL go ahead and try it and see where it gets you.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 16th, 2023 at 8:21:37 PM
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Show one iota of proof you have an advantage or are beating the casinos over the long run. (Legit math) You don't, therefore you won't.Quote: EvenBobQuote: tuttigym
There you have it. "Playing my game" is the third time is the rule effect. Two make believe phantom bets using the Vulcan mind meld and then the real deal which hits 80% of the time.
tuttigym
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But you have to know when to make the virtual bets. You can't just pick any pattern you see and expect it to work there's way more to it than that. If that were true this would be the easiest game in the casino to beat. LOL go ahead and try it and see where it gets you.
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Your window with Mike =FAILER.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 16th, 2023 at 8:24:40 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfShow one iota of proof you have an advantage or are beating the casinos over the long run. You don't, therefore you won't.
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I show it to the casino every time I play, they're the only ones that count. Showing it to you would get me what as far as profit goes, zip zero nada..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 16th, 2023 at 8:34:26 PM
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Sure it would, if true, you're method/ system/ability would be worth millions.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolfShow one iota of proof you have an advantage or are beating the casinos over the long run. You don't, therefore you won't.
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I show it to the casino every time I play, they're the only ones that count. Showing it to you would get me what as far as profit goes, zip zero nada..
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 16th, 2023 at 8:41:18 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfSure it would, if true, you're method/ system/ability would be worth millions.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolfShow one iota of proof you have an advantage or are beating the casinos over the long run. You don't, therefore you won't.
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I show it to the casino every time I play, they're the only ones that count. Showing it to you would get me what as far as profit goes, zip zero nada..
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It's already worth millions but not to me. I have neither the time nor the desire, that's a young man's game who has lots of time on his hands. Looking at that guy who just won the billion dollar lottery and actually feeling sorry for him because he has no idea what's coming. How many people can bear the responsibility of owning that much money, very very few.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 16th, 2023 at 8:53:51 PM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolfSure it would, if true, you're method/ system/ability would be worth millions.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolfShow one iota of proof you have an advantage or are beating the casinos over the long run. You don't, therefore you won't.
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I show it to the casino every time I play, they're the only ones that count. Showing it to you would get me what as far as profit goes, zip zero nada..
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It's already worth millions but not to me. I have neither the time nor the desire, that's a young man's game who has lots of time on his hands. Looking at that guy who just won the billion dollar lottery and actually feeling sorry for him because he has no idea what's coming. How many people can bear the responsibility of owning that much money, very very few.
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Yeah those poor billionaires. What a disaster.
(Snicker snicker chuckle chuckle)
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
July 17th, 2023 at 1:12:54 AM
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Back to that excuse ehh? It's not our fault you can't cope with the responsibility of having a lot of money. There are plenty of people who can. There are multiple ways to avoid those issues, especially when you have advance notice. You can take only what you want/need and donate the rest to unfortunate animals or others in need. You could set yourself a limited allotment in a trust. You could make your millions at a slower pace.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolfSure it would, if true, you're method/ system/ability would be worth millions.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolfShow one iota of proof you have an advantage or are beating the casinos over the long run. You don't, therefore you won't.
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I show it to the casino every time I play, they're the only ones that count. Showing it to you would get me what as far as profit goes, zip zero nada..
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It's already worth millions but not to me. I have neither the time nor the desire, that's a young man's game who has lots of time on his hands. Looking at that guy who just won the billion dollar lottery and actually feeling sorry for him because he has no idea what's coming. How many people can bear the responsibility of owning that much money, very very few.
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Imagine how much precious time you could save yourself if done correctly with some advanced notice.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 17th, 2023 at 6:55:52 AM
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Quote: EvenBob
I show it to the casino every time I play, they're the only ones that count. Showing it to you would get me what as far as profit goes, zip zero nada..
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LOL.... the casino is the only one that counts, yet you're absolutely obsessed with making hundreds and hundreds of posts here about your "winning" roulette system.
If you truly didn't care what anyone else thinks, you never would have posted about it here. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about when it comes to roulette, but you NEED the attention. Sad.
July 17th, 2023 at 7:57:54 AM
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Quote: TigerWuQuote: EvenBob
I show it to the casino every time I play, they're the only ones that count. Showing it to you would get me what as far as profit goes, zip zero nada..
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LOL.... the casino is the only one that counts, yet you're absolutely obsessed with making hundreds and hundreds of posts here about your "winning" roulette system.
If you truly didn't care what anyone else thinks, you never would have posted about it here. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about when it comes to roulette, but you NEED the attention. Sad.
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Be kind. Bob obviously knows as much about roulette as he does about a great many things, some of which we are fortunate enough to have him post here. If everyone washed their clothes once a month, wouldn't the world be a better place?
WWEBD?
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
July 17th, 2023 at 8:29:58 AM
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Quote: billryanQuote: TigerWu
LOL.... the casino is the only one that counts, yet you're absolutely obsessed with making hundreds and hundreds of posts here about your "winning" roulette system.
If you truly didn't care what anyone else thinks, you never would have posted about it here. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about when it comes to roulette, but you NEED the attention. Sad.
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Be kind. Bob obviously knows as much about roulette as he does about a great many things, some of which we are fortunate enough to have him post here. If everyone washed their clothes once a month, wouldn't the world be a better place?
WWEBD?
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I don't understand the comment wwebd.
Evenbob defines his purpose in his profile here. 'Occupation: Curmudgeon'
He also defined his reason for posting here, many times. For his own amusement. It's just a game to him, and I don't mean roulette.
Some curmudgeons get purpose in their lives by amassing a faithful group of followers and then literally watching them waste their lives, minute by minute. A bit like those tiktokers that post elaborate videos that show NOTHING. They waste 10 minutes of their time on earth in the knowledge that hundreds of other fools will waste 10 minutes of their's it's almost like a slow motion suicide cult.
At least some tiktockers monetize their efforts.
We waste some of our lives, challenging Evenbob's nonsense and by engaging with him. Like one guy said in a facebook 'life hacks' video comment.... "I'll never get those ten minutes back". Think how many minutes of life have been wasted reading EB's tens of thousands of posts. How EB must hate us!
Let EB waste what's left of his lifetime, posting his tripe and waiting for reactions..... If only we could keep him waiting without giving him that pleasure. Responses are his oxygen. Debate is his food. Don't feed the .......
There. I just fed the .....
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Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
July 17th, 2023 at 8:40:23 AM
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Quote: OnceDear
Evenbob defines his purpose in his profile here. 'Curmudgeon'
He also defined his reason for posting here, many times. For his own amusement.
Some curmudgeons get purpose in their lives by amassing a faithful group of followers and then literally watching them waste their lives, minute by minute. We waste some of our lives, challenging Evenbob's nonsense and by engaging with him. Like one guy said in a facebook 'life hacks' video comment.... "I'll never get those ten minutes back". Think how many minutes of life have been wasted reading EB's tens of thousands of posts.
Let EB waste what's left of his lifetime, posting his tripe and waiting for reactions..... If only we could keep him waiting without giving him that pleasure. Responses are his oxygen. Debate is his food. Don't feed the .......
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I do most of my Internet surfing at work, so I'm getting paid to be here. EvenBob is wasting his life for free....LOL
July 17th, 2023 at 9:26:39 AM
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Quote: OnceDearQuote: billryanQuote: TigerWu
LOL.... the casino is the only one that counts, yet you're absolutely obsessed with making hundreds and hundreds of posts here about your "winning" roulette system.
If you truly didn't care what anyone else thinks, you never would have posted about it here. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about when it comes to roulette, but you NEED the attention. Sad.
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Be kind. Bob obviously knows as much about roulette as he does about a great many things, some of which we are fortunate enough to have him post here. If everyone washed their clothes once a month, wouldn't the world be a better place?
WWEBD?
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I don't understand the comment wwebd.
Evenbob defines his purpose in his profile here. 'Curmudgeon'
He also defined his reason for posting here, many times. For his own amusement.
Some curmudgeons get purpose in their lives by amassing a faithful group of followers and then literally watching them waste their lives, minute by minute. We waste some of our lives, challenging Evenbob's nonsense and by engaging with him. Like one guy said in a facebook 'life hacks' video comment.... "I'll never get those ten minutes back". Think how many minutes of life have been wasted reading EB's tens of thousands of posts.
Let EB waste what's left of his lifetime, posting his tripe and waiting for reactions..... If only we could keep him waiting without giving him that pleasure. Responses are his oxygen. Debate is his food. Don't feed the .......
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When I find myself in times of trouble, I think What Would Even Bob Do - WWEBD It's always good to have an older, more experienced person to act as a quasi-mentor.
Thanks to Bob, I have an extra two or three hours each and every day.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
July 17th, 2023 at 10:02:18 AM
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Quote: billryan
When I find myself in times of trouble, I think What Would Even Bob Do - WWEBD It's always good to have an older, more experienced person to act as a quasi-mentor.
Thanks to Bob, I have an extra two or three hours each and every day.
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Oh, my god, I forgot all about his time change scheme.... LOL...
July 17th, 2023 at 11:14:21 AM
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Quote: TigerWuYou have absolutely no idea what you're talking about when it comes to roulette,
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You could only make this comment and be accurate if you yourself were a roulette expert. Please tell me, roulette expert, where am I going wrong. What mistakes am I making that lead you to believe that I know nothing about roulette. I just played my afternoon round and I won, so the casino verified that I know what I'm doing. I'm waiting for you to verify that I'm not doing it. Now listen carefully and you all will hear the sound of crickets. LOL
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 17th, 2023 at 11:38:11 AM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: TigerWuYou have absolutely no idea what you're talking about when it comes to roulette,
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You could only make this comment and be accurate if you yourself were a roulette expert. Please tell me, roulette expert, where am I going wrong. What mistakes am I making that lead you to believe that I know nothing about roulette. I just played my afternoon round and I won, so the casino verified that I know what I'm doing. I'm waiting for you to verify that I'm not doing it. Now listen carefully and you all will hear the sound of crickets. LOL
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I don't hear any crickets. All I hear is the engine of the bus I am currently riding
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
July 17th, 2023 at 1:24:59 PM
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Quote: darkozQuote: EvenBobQuote: TigerWuYou have absolutely no idea what you're talking about when it comes to roulette,
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You could only make this comment and be accurate if you yourself were a roulette expert. Please tell me, roulette expert, where am I going wrong. What mistakes am I making that lead you to believe that I know nothing about roulette. I just played my afternoon round and I won, so the casino verified that I know what I'm doing. I'm waiting for you to verify that I'm not doing it. Now listen carefully and you all will hear the sound of crickets. LOL
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I don't hear any crickets. All I hear is the engine of the bus I am currently riding
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Is it a Greyhound bus? Did somebody give you enough money to buy a one-way ticket out of the subway?
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 17th, 2023 at 1:38:59 PM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: darkozQuote: EvenBobQuote: TigerWuYou have absolutely no idea what you're talking about when it comes to roulette,
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You could only make this comment and be accurate if you yourself were a roulette expert. Please tell me, roulette expert, where am I going wrong. What mistakes am I making that lead you to believe that I know nothing about roulette. I just played my afternoon round and I won, so the casino verified that I know what I'm doing. I'm waiting for you to verify that I'm not doing it. Now listen carefully and you all will hear the sound of crickets. LOL
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I don't hear any crickets. All I hear is the engine of the bus I am currently riding
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Is it a Greyhound bus? Did somebody give you enough money to buy a one-way ticket out of the subway?
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A ticket out of the subway?
Where do you live? Mars?
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
July 17th, 2023 at 1:41:15 PM
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Quote: darkozQuote: EvenBobQuote: darkozQuote: EvenBobQuote: TigerWuYou have absolutely no idea what you're talking about when it comes to roulette,
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You could only make this comment and be accurate if you yourself were a roulette expert. Please tell me, roulette expert, where am I going wrong. What mistakes am I making that lead you to believe that I know nothing about roulette. I just played my afternoon round and I won, so the casino verified that I know what I'm doing. I'm waiting for you to verify that I'm not doing it. Now listen carefully and you all will hear the sound of crickets. LOL
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I don't hear any crickets. All I hear is the engine of the bus I am currently riding
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Is it a Greyhound bus? Did somebody give you enough money to buy a one-way ticket out of the subway?
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A ticket out of the subway?
Where do you live? Mars?
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I thought you were living in the subway again, my mistake. I thought I saw a post where you said you missed it and were going back to that life. That it was so much better than the life you have now.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 17th, 2023 at 1:57:14 PM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: darkozQuote: EvenBobQuote: darkozQuote: EvenBobQuote: TigerWuYou have absolutely no idea what you're talking about when it comes to roulette,
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You could only make this comment and be accurate if you yourself were a roulette expert. Please tell me, roulette expert, where am I going wrong. What mistakes am I making that lead you to believe that I know nothing about roulette. I just played my afternoon round and I won, so the casino verified that I know what I'm doing. I'm waiting for you to verify that I'm not doing it. Now listen carefully and you all will hear the sound of crickets. LOL
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I don't hear any crickets. All I hear is the engine of the bus I am currently riding
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Is it a Greyhound bus? Did somebody give you enough money to buy a one-way ticket out of the subway?
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A ticket out of the subway?
Where do you live? Mars?
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I thought you were living in the subway again, my mistake. I thought I saw a post where you said you missed it and were going back to that life. That it was so much better than the life you have now.
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It's so sad this guy's social security check is his one method for beating Roulette.
Lose, lose, lose, social security cashed, lose, lose, lose, social security cashed.
Then he gets to claim he never loses. Of course not when it's the government's bankroll.
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
July 17th, 2023 at 2:37:41 PM
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There's a T-shirt idea in there somewhere...
"My taxes pay for your gambling addiction"
"My taxes pay for your gambling addiction"
July 17th, 2023 at 3:25:25 PM
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Quote: darkoz
It's so sad this guy's social security check is his one method for beating Roulette.
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What is truly sad is that you think the government still gives out Social Security checks. The federal government phased out paper checks in 2012 and everything is done by direct deposit. What country do you live in, don't you get news on the subway?
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 17th, 2023 at 5:03:51 PM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: darkoz
It's so sad this guy's social security check is his one method for beating Roulette.
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What is truly sad is that you think the government still gives out Social Security checks. The federal government phased out paper checks in 2012 and everything is done by direct deposit. What country do you live in, don't you get news on the subway?
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In news that will shock the forum to its core, EB doesn’t know what he is talking about. While most recipients get direct deposit, approximately 500,000 recipients still receive paper checks. EB, what country do you live in?
July 17th, 2023 at 5:10:32 PM
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Quote: SOOPOOQuote: EvenBobQuote: darkoz
It's so sad this guy's social security check is his one method for beating Roulette.
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What is truly sad is that you think the government still gives out Social Security checks. The federal government phased out paper checks in 2012 and everything is done by direct deposit. What country do you live in, don't you get news on the subway?
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In news that will shock the forum to its core, EB doesn’t know what he is talking about. While most recipients get direct deposit, approximately 500,000 recipients still receive paper checks. EB, what country do you live in?
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"The Social Security Administration According to federal law, Social Security benefits and Supplemental Security Income benefits must be paid electronically. Paper checks are no longer mailed out as a method of payment."
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 17th, 2023 at 5:22:11 PM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: SOOPOOQuote: EvenBobQuote: darkoz
It's so sad this guy's social security check is his one method for beating Roulette.
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What is truly sad is that you think the government still gives out Social Security checks. The federal government phased out paper checks in 2012 and everything is done by direct deposit. What country do you live in, don't you get news on the subway?
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In news that will shock the forum to its core, EB doesn’t know what he is talking about. While most recipients get direct deposit, approximately 500,000 recipients still receive paper checks. EB, what country do you live in?
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"The Social Security Administration According to federal law, Social Security benefits and Supplemental Security Income benefits must be paid electronically. Paper checks are no longer mailed out as a method of payment."
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I’m glad you can type that. You (as usual) are wrong.Want to bet any amount of money I can show you a check from the Social Security Administration dated in 2023? While we are at it, time for a fact check summary
EB does not pay his bills from roulette betting.
EB does not have a method of betting that consistently wins at roulette.
EB had an opportunity to prove his claims but was (of course) unable to do so.
EB does have an interesting style in writing his tens of thousands of fictitious posts.
EB has me hooked with his cooking stories/recipes/pictures.
Time for me to take a short break from this thread!
July 17th, 2023 at 5:25:33 PM
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No new recipients can receive SS by check however some still do as they are grandfathered in.
July 17th, 2023 at 5:52:13 PM
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Quote: SOOPOO
EB does not pay his bills from roulette betting.
EB does not have a method of betting that consistently wins at roulette.
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Wrong. Stick with what you know, which is nothing about roulette. I know doctors always think they're smartest person in the room, just ask them. I'm going to play my evening round of roulette now and laugh out loud when I win him cuz I'll be thinking about you. And your meaningless uninformed opinion. LOL
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 17th, 2023 at 5:54:40 PM
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Quote: rainmanNo new recipients can receive SS by check however some still do as they are grandfathered in.
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I know nothing about that, all I know is in 2011 when I went on Social Security they said the government no longer issues checks you have to go on direct deposit. Same thing happened to my son in the military he went from checks to direct deposit. Saves the government hundreds of millions of dollars a year in check printing.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 17th, 2023 at 6:35:53 PM
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Quote: rainmanNo new recipients can receive SS by check however some still do as they are grandfathered in.
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There is actually a form available to fill out to still receive paper checks. There are only a few reasons to be granted the exception.
July 17th, 2023 at 7:37:04 PM
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You conveniently left this one out...Quote: EvenBobQuote: SOOPOO
EB does not pay his bills from roulette betting.
EB does not have a method of betting that consistently wins at roulette.
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Wrong. Stick with what you know, which is nothing about roulette. I know doctors always think they're smartest person in the room, just ask them. I'm going to play my evening round of roulette now and laugh out loud when I win him cuz I'll be thinking about you. And your meaningless uninformed opinion. LOL
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"EB had an opportunity to prove his claims but was (of course) unable to do so."
You could easily provide proof without all the Shenanigans of having Mike be held as a captive audience. I get it, you were probably just lonely and wanted to spend some quality time with Mike.
Again, You could easily provide proof without revealing your secret. A free video screen-sharing app, Log into your account, one can blur out sensitive information if need be. Go to bet history and the Cashier where it shows money in and money out from the beginning. This could also be done via live stream person-to-person screen sharing.
I wouldn't ask you to do anything I wouldn't or couldn't do myself. I'm willing to give examples of where I'm actually beating an online casino over many thousands of hands/spins/coins/action in. I could even go one step further, so as to not be accused of cherry-picking. I could guarantee to be profitable starting from a given day and ending on a given day. I'll show him mine... if you'll show him yours. You won't, because you can't, because it's complete BS. You'll have some lame nonsense excuse just like I predicted before.
I think DarkOz post is spot-on with his SS comments. IIRC he is a reformed system rouletter himself(It's not a method no matter how often you claim that, methods can be proven with math and legitimate logic)
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 17th, 2023 at 9:23:47 PM
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Do NOT attack EvenBOB as a person. Attack his posts.
EvenBob: Do NOT make personal attacks on your critics (such as AxelWolf.)
I will begin handing out suspensions to those people who make personal attacks.
Do NOT attack EvenBOB as a person. Attack his posts.
EvenBob: Do NOT make personal attacks on your critics (such as AxelWolf.)
I will begin handing out suspensions to those people who make personal attacks.
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So many better men, a few of them friends, are dead. And a thousand thousand slimy things live on, and so do I.
July 17th, 2023 at 9:37:40 PM
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Unless you are tuttigym, in that case, just breathe wrong and you'll get a suspension. 😁Quote: gordonm888
I will begin handing out suspensions to those people who make personal attacks.
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 17th, 2023 at 10:09:17 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfYou conveniently left this one out...Quote: EvenBobQuote: SOOPOO
EB does not pay his bills from roulette betting.
EB does not have a method of betting that consistently wins at roulette.
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Wrong. Stick with what you know, which is nothing about roulette. I know doctors always think they're smartest person in the room, just ask them. I'm going to play my evening round of roulette now and laugh out loud when I win him cuz I'll be thinking about you. And your meaningless uninformed opinion. LOL
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"EB had an opportunity to prove his claims but was (of course) unable to do so."
You could easily provide proof without all the Shenanigans of having Mike be held as a captive audience. I get it, you were probably just lonely and wanted to spend some quality time with Mike.
Again, You could easily provide proof without revealing your secret. A free video screen-sharing app, Log into your account, one can blur out sensitive information if need be. Go to bet history and the Cashier where it shows money in and money out from the beginning. This could also be done via live stream person-to-person screen sharing.
I wouldn't ask you to do anything I wouldn't or couldn't do myself. I'm willing to give examples of where I'm actually beating an online casino over many thousands of hands/spins/coins/action in. I could even go one step further, so as to not be accused of cherry-picking. I could guarantee to be profitable starting from a given day and ending on a given day. I'll show him mine... if you'll show him yours. You won't, because you can't, because it's complete BS. You'll have some lame nonsense excuse just like I predicted before.
I think DarkOz post is spot-on with his SS comments. IIRC he is a reformed system rouletter himself(It's not a method no matter how often you claim that, methods can be proven with math and legitimate logic)
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I use to have respect for Bob he is an intelligent guy, I no longer do due to the games he plays and disrespect
he shows to members something is a little off.
July 17th, 2023 at 11:08:51 PM
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Quote: rainmanQuote: AxelWolfYou conveniently left this one out...Quote: EvenBobQuote: SOOPOO
EB does not pay his bills from roulette betting.
EB does not have a method of betting that consistently wins at roulette.
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Wrong. Stick with what you know, which is nothing about roulette. I know doctors always think they're smartest person in the room, just ask them. I'm going to play my evening round of roulette now and laugh out loud when I win him cuz I'll be thinking about you. And your meaningless uninformed opinion. LOL
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"EB had an opportunity to prove his claims but was (of course) unable to do so."
You could easily provide proof without all the Shenanigans of having Mike be held as a captive audience. I get it, you were probably just lonely and wanted to spend some quality time with Mike.
Again, You could easily provide proof without revealing your secret. A free video screen-sharing app, Log into your account, one can blur out sensitive information if need be. Go to bet history and the Cashier where it shows money in and money out from the beginning. This could also be done via live stream person-to-person screen sharing.
I wouldn't ask you to do anything I wouldn't or couldn't do myself. I'm willing to give examples of where I'm actually beating an online casino over many thousands of hands/spins/coins/action in. I could even go one step further, so as to not be accused of cherry-picking. I could guarantee to be profitable starting from a given day and ending on a given day. I'll show him mine... if you'll show him yours. You won't, because you can't, because it's complete BS. You'll have some lame nonsense excuse just like I predicted before.
I think DarkOz post is spot-on with his SS comments. IIRC he is a reformed system rouletter himself(It's not a method no matter how often you claim that, methods can be proven with math and legitimate logic)
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I use to have respect for Bob he is an intelligent guy, I no longer do due to the games he plays and disrespect
he shows to members something is a little off.
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We know Bob has a history of not ever wanting to admit he is wrong. I believe it's seriously mentally hurtful to him whenever he knows others know he is/was wrong. No doubt he actually feels the pain in his gut.
Does Bob actually believe he has a legitimate Roulette method/system?
Or does Bob just want us to believe he does?
I really think it's the latter. If I remember correctly, roulette was his main thing and introduction to the forums.
I believe that Bob thought it was possible at one time when his "friend", or, was he himself that friend? I can't remember, but I think he admitted there was no friend or something wackadoodle like that.
Anyways, he believed his "friend" could and was beating roulette. He had questions and statements about his "friend's" roulette system. He caught some flack over comments and questions that made, much of that made him look really bad. Bob couldn't take the embarrassment of being wrong.
I have no doubt Bob probably went on a few winning streaks that eerily coincided with whatever pattern BS he was seeing at the time. Those streaks set the hook so hard and deep that pulling it out would rip the guts out along with it. Add that to his inability to never be thought of as being wrong and you have a never-back down keep-it-alive situation. After this long, I don't actually think Bob believes his own roulette claims.
If Bob believes just a few people believe there's a slight possibility he can beat roulette, that seems to be enough for him.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 18th, 2023 at 3:06:46 AM
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Quote: EvenBobI have a friend who wins consistantly playing roulette in Vegas. He doesn't play a mechanical system. He has a strategy that he adjusts according to the situation. This strategy is a complicated, complex mixture of probability, statistics and experience that has all morphed into a laser like intuition on the outside bets. He can't really explain what he does, he says it all comes out sounding like 'Gamblers Fallacy'. He doesn't win every bet, but he never loses a session. Ever. When I'm in Vegas, he lets me piggyback his bets sometimes and I always come away a winner. Why do they say roulette can't be beaten, when my friend and others, I'm sure, are beating it every day.
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The dealer can control where the ball falls into which number. If the dealer keeps directing the ball to an area (or any pattern exist), then he can predict the next number.
July 18th, 2023 at 4:41:47 AM
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Quote: gordonm888WARNING:
Do NOT attack EvenBOB as a person. Attack his posts.
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Quote: rainmanI use to have respect for Bob he is an intelligent guy, I no longer do due to the games he plays and disrespect
he shows to members something is a little off.
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Does Bob actually believe he has a legitimate Roulette method/system?
Or does Bob just want us to believe he does?
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OK. Not attacking EB. Got that.
Does EB have a useful or successful roulette beating method? : No. Of course not.
For as much as he has described his method, it's fundamentally complete baloney. He purports to* believe that short term trends and patterns give him strong guidance on when to bet and what to bet on. That is rubbish that has been debunked over centuries. It was rubbish before EB tried to convince us and it will always be rubbish. Gamblers fallacy, pure and simple.
*'Purports to believe' is different to 'Believe'
Is EB an intelligent guy?: I concur with Rainman that EB IS an intelligent guy. Which is sort of a shame.
Does EB believe he has a winning method? That's why it's a shame: Because I don't believe Intelligent EB could believe that for one second. He sees his casino account balance. he sees his own wagering results. He would have to have particularly broken cognitive powers to see losses as wins. I don't doubt EB's cognitive process for a second.
Which brings me to conclude that EB's telling us of his winning method, and encouraging others to try it, is motivated by something else. You know the word 'Altruism'? Well, I don't believe his motivation is altruism.
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
July 18th, 2023 at 6:51:54 AM
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Quote: OnceDearQuote: gordonm888WARNING:
Do NOT attack EvenBOB as a person. Attack his posts.
link to original postQuote: rainmanI use to have respect for Bob he is an intelligent guy, I no longer do due to the games he plays and disrespect
he shows to members something is a little off.
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Does Bob actually believe he has a legitimate Roulette method/system?
Or does Bob just want us to believe he does?
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OK. Not attacking EB. Got that.
Does EB have a useful or successful roulette beating method? : No. Of course not.
For as much as he has described his method, it's fundamentally complete baloney. He purports to* believe that short term trends and patterns give him strong guidance on when to bet and what to bet on. That is rubbish that has been debunked over centuries. It was rubbish before EB tried to convince us and it will always be rubbish. Gamblers fallacy, pure and simple.
*'Purports to believe' is different to 'Believe'
Is EB an intelligent guy?: I concur with Rainman that EB IS an intelligent guy. Which is sort of a shame.
Does EB believe he has a winning method? That's why it's a shame: Because I don't believe Intelligent EB could believe that for one second. He sees his casino account balance. he sees his own wagering results. He would have to have particularly broken cognitive powers to see losses as wins. I don't doubt EB's cognitive process for a second.
Which brings me to conclude that EB's telling us of his winning method, and encouraging others to try it, is motivated by something else. You know the word 'Altruism'? Well, I don't believe his motivation is altruism.
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There is a post in I believe this very thread where EB says he insults people just thinly enough to avoid suspension. He even relishes that he drove BBB batty because she couldn't suspend him even though he was hurling insulting posts due to his "method".
This entire thread is an insult to the forum and by extension the Wizard himself. It's only purpose is to tick off the regulars which EB has stated is his goal.
So, what do you call it when a forum member purposely antagonizes an entire group?
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
July 18th, 2023 at 7:25:47 AM
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This entire thread is an insult to the forum and by extension the Wizard himself. It's only purpose is to tick off the regulars which EB has stated is his goal.
So, what do you call it when a forum member purposely antagonizes an entire group?
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I agree. A deliberate scattergun, ongoing insult. But an insult which Wizard and the moderators accept, even encourage. As Wizard would say "That's just EB being EB" and "You don't have to read it". Make of that what you will.
I'm of the opinion that POSTS of a certain nature should be torn to shreds, thrown to the wolves. That the authors of such posts should be treated with the same respect as flat earthers. Which is odd as Wizard tells us that he and we should treat flat earthers with respect and we should give them a hearing. Therein lies a difference of opinion, if ever there was one.
I dunno. What do you call it when it's sanctioned and DEFENDED and encouraged by the host and moderators?
Free speech?
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
July 18th, 2023 at 8:38:00 AM
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"EB had an opportunity to prove his claims but was (of course) unable to do so."
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It's on a need to know basis, and the only entity that needs to know is the casino because they pay me. For what possible reason would you need to know. You can't think of one.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
