oscar33
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January 27th, 2014 at 6:07:48 PM permalink
I need some help coming up with something clever. As I've mentioned a couple times, I manage a small Casino in Bogota, Colombia. Last time Colombia qualified for the World Cup was 1998...until 2014. Obviously the entire country could not be more excited. Sadly, the country's star player and hero, Falcao, injured himself last week. It is now in serious doubt whether he will be able to play this summer. Everyone is praying for the best.

I know if I can come up with a promotion involving Falcao and or the World Cup, I can get a ton of free press. Unfortunately, I have no idea what that promotion would be. Sportsbetting is illegal. It would have to be tied into Blackjack, Roulette or Hold'em (cash or tournament). The promotion is best if it is resolved instantly...nothing which actually depends on whether Falcao plays in the WC or not. Just want something clever that somehow incorporates the news to gain free publicity.

If someone comes up with something I actually use, I'll paypal you $50 (not much, but a token of my appreciation).

Thanks,

Oscar
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January 27th, 2014 at 6:17:40 PM permalink
How about a short simple announcement that:
You wish the best for him and hope for a speedy recovery.
In the meantime, A certain percentage of your casino's profits will be donated to "his medical bills' or "the team's medical fund". You could limit it to profits at Roulette or a certain slot machine or whatever.
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January 27th, 2014 at 6:21:30 PM permalink
Try giving players who are sitting at a table game when your team scores a 25 dollar promotional chip is awarded instantly
The bet will not be paid- not now not ever
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January 27th, 2014 at 6:22:54 PM permalink
Quote: oscar33

I need some help coming up with something clever. As I've mentioned a couple times, I manage a small Casino in Bogota, Colombia. Last time Colombia qualified for the World Cup was 1998...until 2014. Obviously the entire country could not be more excited. Sadly, the country's star player and hero, Falcao, injured himself last week. It is now in serious doubt whether he will be able to play this summer. Everyone is praying for the best.

I know if I can come up with a promotion involving Falcao and or the World Cup, I can get a ton of free press. Unfortunately, I have no idea what that promotion would be. Sportsbetting is illegal. It would have to be tied into Blackjack, Roulette or Hold'em (cash or tournament). The promotion is best if it is resolved instantly...nothing which actually depends on whether Falcao plays in the WC or not. Just want something clever that somehow incorporates the news to gain free publicity.

If someone comes up with something I actually use, I'll paypal you $50 (not much, but a token of my appreciation).

Thanks,

Oscar



Oscar,

Some ideas:

On the number 9, (Falcoa's Jersey) on Roulette, pay 36 to 1 rather than 35 to 1 until his availability is known. The extra payoff (it can be implied) when won can be dropped in the prayer box at the Catholic Church for his healthy return, and benefit the poor.

On Texas Hold 'Em, have a small bonus pot for pocket 9's that win the hand.

On Blackjack, have a tournament where all the players get 9 hands head-to-head with the dealer (usual 7-10 hands here, so in range) and call it the Falcoa Tournament. Set aside 10% of entry fees for charity.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
Mission146
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January 27th, 2014 at 7:01:56 PM permalink
Quote: oscar33



I know if I can come up with a promotion involving Falcao and or the World Cup, I can get a ton of free press. Unfortunately, I have no idea what that promotion would be. Sportsbetting is illegal. It would have to be tied into Blackjack, Roulette or Hold'em (cash or tournament). The promotion is best if it is resolved instantly...nothing which actually depends on whether Falcao plays in the WC or not. Just want something clever that somehow incorporates the news to gain free publicity.



Roulette pays double on any Even money bet that covers that number if that number lands, since the number is 9, it will 1-18 would pay 2 FOR 1 if the number is nine. On Roulette, you can also pay 37 FOR 1 if someone bets it straight and it hits, the latter is 0.00% HE.

With Blackjack, any hand that gets dealt a total of 9 in Hearts is an Even Money winner against anything except a dealer Natural or the same thing. If it is 3-6 in Hearts, then 3-6 in Hearts wins. Maximum bet for that is $25 and it can only be won once per Player's Club Card. What's nice is, on occasion, +EV double-downs will be forfeited in favor of the automatic win, though you could end up paying a 9 against a Dealer 19/20 on occasion.

For Hold 'Em, no rake on any THE hand that wins with his jersey number as the hole cards. Since his jersey number is 9, any two cards that total 9.
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January 28th, 2014 at 1:25:00 AM permalink
Best idea is to keep it simple and tasteful.

Implement a Falcao jackpot in your poker room for Hold'em.

First player to win a hand with exactly quad 9s wins $9999 (or whatever amount in your local currency) Must have two 9s in pocket and two 9s on the board.

If you want to split it up, say the first 10 winners with exactly quad 9s wins $999 or whatever amount.

Guessing your poker room is not that big, so it could take a while for this to hit, and give you publicity the whole time.

Best part about this promotion is you know exactly how much it will cost you, unlike the other suggestions which are variable.
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January 28th, 2014 at 5:45:09 AM permalink
I like most of the ideas presented. I particularly like the poker quan 9s ideas. Any BJ promo should similarly involve getting two 9s.

How about any BJ bet of $25 or more where the player hand is 99, gets an entry into some contest for a nice prize (tickets to a game?)


Quote: Mission146

Roulette pays double on any Even money bet that covers that number if that number lands, since the number is 9, it will 1-18 would pay 2 FOR 1 if the number is nine. On Roulette, you can also pay 37 FOR 1 if someone bets it straight and it hits, the latter is 0.00% HE.

Both of these are trouble.

Paying an even money bet double will get lots of advantage play action.

Paying 36 to 1 on #9 is not an advantage play, but will often get a mountain of chips bet, causing other problems.
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January 28th, 2014 at 6:45:47 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

I like most of the ideas presented. I particularly like the poker quad 9s ideas. Any BJ promo should similarly involve getting two 9s.
Paying 36 to 1 on #9 is not an advantage play, but will often get a mountain of chips bet, causing other problems.

What you want is a mountain of NEW players or NEW money from your existing players.

I would avoid conditioning payout on 'his being able to play' or on 'his playing'. If his number is "9", then how about pushing bets in games where "9" is not such a good bet. Do you have a Big Six Wheel? Turn "the joker" into a large "9" similar to his shirt colors. If this attracts action... its attracting it to a bet that is not that great to begin with. Every time it hits, a set amount goes to the Team Medical Fund.

If you were to do "9" at Roulette it might be: From Early Hour to "X" Hour: Every time a 9 rolls, you offer a SPECIAL bet of some sort. If the NEXT spin is Green you pay an extra health fund contribution or if 9 immediately repeats you pay that Player's Health Fund contribution. This way, you would be offering a "teaser" early in the day to get more people into your casino earlier in the day and although you would have to pay off on that second 9... you would only have to pay off when it actually won.
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January 28th, 2014 at 6:55:30 AM permalink
No offense but does anyone really think contributing money to healthcare is going to bring in players? I could be wrong but similar promotions which center around scoring throughout the game bring. People in and keep them there for the duration of the game
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January 28th, 2014 at 7:24:40 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear




Both of these are trouble.

Paying an even money bet double will get lots of advantage play action.

Paying 36 to 1 on #9 is not an advantage play, but will often get a mountain of chips bet, causing other problems.



No, it won't, unless they suck at advantage play.

17/38 * 1 = 17/38

1/38 * 2 = 2/38

20/38 * -1 = -20/38

-20/38 + 2/38 + 17/38 = -1/38 or 2.632% HE

That's if you have a double-zero wheel, if you have a single-zero wheel, then the House Edge is nothing and there is no player edge. You're only doubling an even money bet if the result is, "9," and nine is within the parameters of the EM bet (Red, Odd, 1-18)

If you're a little scared of people betting the nine, which is understandable, reduce your Table Max on a single number bet that day.
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January 28th, 2014 at 7:49:32 AM permalink
You're right. It's not an advantage play. Ignore my comment about that.

It seems I had a brain fart.
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January 28th, 2014 at 7:55:43 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

You're right. It's not an advantage play. Ignore my comment about that.

It seems I had a brain fart.



I was just joking with, "Suck at advantage play," by the way.

I think you may have initially thought I meant to pay ANY Even Money result that covers the number nine 2 FOR 1, like any Red would be 2 FOR 1 because the number nine is red, I just meant it only doubles it if the result is nine. The player would have a tremendous advantage if you doubled all of those.
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January 28th, 2014 at 9:11:10 AM permalink
Why not pay 39 to 1? Another 9 and house can still afford it.
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January 28th, 2014 at 9:25:03 AM permalink
Blackjack:

If you are dealt a pair of 9s and split, and receive another 9 on either hand, that hand wins automatically. You could call this scoring a goal.

If the new hand is suited 9s, it could pay 9-1.

Odds of getting a pair of 9s is around .6% from an infinite deck, less from a real deck. Odds of hitting a suited 9 on either one is about 2/52, ignoring resplits. Probability of event is 0.000275, so I think the cost is 0.002 wagers for the 9-1 payoff.
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January 28th, 2014 at 10:05:43 AM permalink
Quote: strictlyAP

No offense but does anyone really think contributing money to healthcare is going to bring in players? I could be wrong but similar promotions which center around scoring throughout the game bring. People in and keep them there for the duration of the game



My understanding is that the game is quite some time away and also I am aware that I know nothing of that country's views on using a celebrity's image without his permission for a commercial enterprise. It is assumed that "Health Care for his team" is enough of an inducement for some action. Its not health care in general, but for he and his team mates.

If its to be gimmicks just for the duration of the game, I assume people already know where they will be spending that game and few NEW customers would arrive for a gimmick when the game means so much to them on that day.
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January 28th, 2014 at 10:09:39 AM permalink
Falcoa has 5 months to rehab post-surgery before the World Cup starts in Brazil. Typical rehab for ACL tear is 6-9 months. He is being treated in Portugal.

So Oscar has several months to advertise and run a promotion, either schedule an event, run some ongoing items that keep it alive but don't cost too much, and some time in June or Julyy they'll have an answer on whether Falcoa will play. At least that's what I've gathered.
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January 28th, 2014 at 11:05:31 AM permalink
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