Vegasbrent
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October 1st, 2024 at 8:50:43 AM permalink
The last 2 years, I've been keeping track of how the group's picks have done depending on the number of players making the pick.

The data the last 2 years have shown some predictive value:

1. Fade picks made by greater than 50% of the players. 9 - 6 (60%) over the last 2 years.
2. Tail picks made by greater than 33% of the players up to and including 50% of the players. 36 - 28 - 3 (56.3%) over the last 2 years.
3. Fade picks made by greater than 25% of the players up to and including 33% of the players. 43 - 58 - 4 (57.4%) over the last 2 years.

That's a total of 103 - 77 - 6 (57.2%) over the last 2 years. About 5 picks a week on average.

For this year, the number of players would be as follows for the groups above:
Note: these numbers will change next week as we have 16 players now.
I kept these numbers for Weeks 1 - 4 because of skip weeks and I'm lazy.

1. 8 or more players on a pick: FADE
2. 4 - 5 players on a pick: FADE
3. 6 - 7 players on a pick: TAIL

For Week 4, here are the numbers:
1. 0 - 0
2. 4 - 2
3. 0 - 1

Week 4 Total: 4 - 3

For Week 3, here are the numbers:
1. 1 - 0
2. 3 - 3
3. 0 - 0

Week 3 Total: 4 - 3

For Week 2, here are the numbers:
1, 0 - 1
2. 4 - 1
3. 1 - 1

Week 2 Total: 5 - 3

For Week 1, here are the numbers:
1. 0 - 1 (lost by 1/2 point)
2. 1 - 5 (1 loss by 1/2 point)
3. 0 - 1

Week 1 Total: 1 - 7.

Season Totals:
1. 1 - 2
2. 12 - 11
3. 1 - 3

Season Total: 14 - 16

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October 3rd, 2024 at 1:08:02 PM permalink
WEEK 4 RESULTS

Will be posted tonight after I get home from work.

WEEK 5 LINES

DEADLINE: 10 AM EDT Sunday morning. NOTE!!!! If you pick the Jets-Vikings (London game), your picks must have been submitted before 6 AM EDT on Sunday. No changes will be permitted once submitted if your picks include the London game.

Jets 2.5 @ Vikings -2.5 O/U 40
Ravens -2 @ Bengals 2 O/U 49
Bills -1 @ Texans 1 O/U 47.5
Panthers 3.5 @ Bears -3.5 O/U 41
Browns 3.5 @ Commanders -3.5 O/U 43.5
Colts 2.5 @ Jaguars -2.5 O/U 46
Dolphins 1 @ Patriots -1 O/U 36.5
Cardinals 7 @ 49ers -7 O/U 50
Raiders 2.5 @ Broncos -2.5 O/U 35.5
Packers -3 @ Rams 3 O/U 49
Giants 6.5 @ Seahawks -6.5 O/U 43.5
Cowboys 2.5 @ Steelers -2.5 O/U 44
Saints 5.5 @ Chiefs -5.5 O/U 43
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October 3rd, 2024 at 2:38:30 PM permalink
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October 3rd, 2024 at 6:00:24 PM permalink
I can do week 4 results tonight.
The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong; but that is the way to bet.
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October 3rd, 2024 at 6:26:17 PM permalink
Here are the delayed week 4 results. Go me . . .

PlayerWeek 4 RecordWin%
avianrandy:4-266.7%
fourfiveface:5-183.3%
genwyzgy:0-50%
gordonm888:5-183.3%
indyjeffrey:4-180%
jml24:0-00%
johnzimbo:1-516.7%
miplet:2-433.3%
playyourcardsright:3-175%
ridetheedge:1-516.7%
qfortwayne:0-50%
soopoo:2-433.3%
sparty10k:3-350%
unjon:0-60%
vegasbrent:4-266.7%
wizard:4-180%


And here are the aggregate results.

PlayerRecordWin %
soopoo:18-675%
playyourcardsright:14-670%
wizard:16-769.6%
fourfiveface:15-865.2%
indyjeffrey:11-664.7%
vegasbrent:15-962.5%
avianrandy:14-960.9%
gordonm888:14-1058.3%
miplet:14-1058.3%
sparty10k:12-1250%
genwyzgy:11-1247.8%
unjon:11-1247.8%
ridetheedge:11-1345.8%
johnzimbo:10-1441.7%
jml24:4-1422.2%
qfortwayne:1-156.3%
The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong; but that is the way to bet.
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October 4th, 2024 at 10:10:36 AM permalink
Unjon,

Thank you very much.

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October 4th, 2024 at 2:40:09 PM permalink
Quote: unJon


...<SNIP>...

And here are the aggregate results.

PlayerRecordWin %
soopoo:18-675%
playyourcardsright:14-670%
wizard:16-769.6%
fourfiveface:15-865.2%
indyjeffrey:11-664.7%
vegasbrent:15-962.5%
avianrandy:14-960.9%
gordonm888:14-1058.3%
miplet:14-1058.3%
sparty10k:12-1250%
genwyzgy:11-1247.8%
unjon:11-1247.8%
ridetheedge:11-1345.8%
johnzimbo:10-1441.7%
jml24:4-1422.2%
qfortwayne:1-156.3%

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Cheeto the Wonderchimp is not happy with y'all:

Won: 191
Lost: 162
= 54%

Try to suck more.
Suck dope, watch TV, make up stuff, be somebody on the internet.
unJon
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October 5th, 2024 at 8:36:15 AM permalink
Quote: DrawingDead

Quote: unJon


...<SNIP>...

And here are the aggregate results.

PlayerRecordWin %
soopoo:18-675%
playyourcardsright:14-670%
wizard:16-769.6%
fourfiveface:15-865.2%
indyjeffrey:11-664.7%
vegasbrent:15-962.5%
avianrandy:14-960.9%
gordonm888:14-1058.3%
miplet:14-1058.3%
sparty10k:12-1250%
genwyzgy:11-1247.8%
unjon:11-1247.8%
ridetheedge:11-1345.8%
johnzimbo:10-1441.7%
jml24:4-1422.2%
qfortwayne:1-156.3%

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Cheeto the Wonderchimp is not happy with y'all:

Won: 191
Lost: 162
= 54%

Try to suck more.
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I did my part last week!
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October 6th, 2024 at 9:51:18 AM permalink
WEEK 5 PICKS
All submitted before this morning's early deadline

PlayYourCardsRight:
Vikings -2.5 CONFIDENCE
Bears -3.5
Commanders -3.5
Broncos -2.5
Packers -3

FourFiveFace:
Jets 2.5
Panthers 3.5
Browns 3.5
Seahawks -6.5
Saints 5.5 – Confidence

Genwyzgy:
Panthers 3.5
Commanders -3.5
49ers -7 Confidence
Packers -3
Seahawks -6.5

RideTheEdge:
Browns 3.5
Jaguars -2.5 -- Confidence
Dolphins UNDER
Broncos -2.5
Seahawks -6.5

Sparty10k:
Broncos -2.5
Packers -3 confidence
Seahawks-6.5
Steelers-2.5
Saints +5.5

Avianrandy:
Steelers -2.5
49ers -7
Jets +2.5
Dolphins +1 Confidence
Packers -3
Johnzimbo:
Steelers under 44
Ravens -2
Bills -1
Rams under 49 confidence
Broncos over 35.5

unJon:
Patriots UNDER 36.5 - confidence
Cardinals UNDER 50
Broncos -2.5
Saints OVER 43
Ravens -2

jml24:
Bengals 2
Texans 1
Browns 3.5
Rams 3
Seahawks -6.5-Confidence

Gordonm888
Vikings -2.5
Vikings Under 40
Ravens -2
Bills -1
Steelers -2.5

Vegasbrent:
Jets 2.5-confidence
Bengals 2
Texans 1
Browns 3.5
Raiders 2.5

IndyJeffrey:
Vikings -2.5
Commanders UNDER 43.5
Commanders -3.5 -CONFIDENCE
Raiders 2.5
Seahawks -6.5

Wizard:
Jets 2.5
Browns 3.5 -- confidence
Jaguars -2.5
Giants 6.5
Saints 5.5

SOOPOO:
Vikings +2.5
Jaguars -2.5
Broncos -2.5
Cowboys +2.5
Giants +6.5 Confidence

No Picks Received:
Miplet
QFortWayne *appears to have quit*
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October 6th, 2024 at 10:56:24 AM permalink
Here is the pick summary:

GameAwayHomeOverUnder
Jets 2.5 @ Vikings -2.5 O/U 405501
Ravens -2 @ Bengals 2 O/U 493200
Bills -1 @ Texans 1 O/U 47.52200
Panthers 3.5 @ Bears -3.5 O/U 412100
Browns 3.5 @ Commanders -3.5 O/U 43.56401
Colts 2.5 @ Jaguars -2.5 O/U 460400
Dolphins 1 @ Patriots -1 O/U 36.52003
Cardinals 7 @ 49Ers -7 O/U 500301
Raiders 2.5 @ Broncos -2.5 O/U 35.52510
Packers -3 @ Rams 3 O/U 495102
Giants 6.5 @ Seahawks -6.5 O/U 43.53700
Cowboys 2.5 @ Steelers -2.5 O/U 441301
Saints 5.5 @ Chiefs -5.5 O/U 434010
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October 6th, 2024 at 5:49:05 PM permalink
If Cowboys cover +2.5 I think I have another perfect week. I’m beginning to think maybe I’m actually good at this and not randomly lucky?

I’m going with randomly lucky…..
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October 6th, 2024 at 6:01:30 PM permalink
I'm just as randomly lucky! At least this week, for the first time, I bet all of my picks individually. Nice little profit, because I don't make large bets!
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October 9th, 2024 at 8:39:00 AM permalink
The last 2 years, I've been keeping track of how the group's picks have done depending on the number of players making the pick.

The data the last 2 years have shown some predictive value:

1. Fade picks made by greater than 50% of the players. 9 - 6 (60%) over the last 2 years.
2. Tail picks made by greater than 33% of the players up to and including 50% of the players. 36 - 28 - 3 (56.3%) over the last 2 years.
3. Fade picks made by greater than 25% of the players up to and including 33% of the players. 43 - 58 - 4 (57.4%) over the last 2 years.

That's a total of 103 - 77 - 6 (57.2%) over the last 2 years. About 5 picks a week on average.

For this year, the number of players would be as follows for the groups above:

1. 8 or more players on a pick: FADE
2. 4 - 5 players on a pick: FADE
3. 6 - 7 players on a pick: TAIL

For Week 5, here are the numbers:
1. 0 - 0
2. 1 - 3 (1 loss by 1/2 point)
3. 0 - 1

Week 5 Total: 1 - 4

For Week 4, here are the numbers:
1. 0 - 0
2. 4 - 2
3. 0 - 1

Week 4 Total: 4 - 3

For Week 3, here are the numbers:
1. 1 - 0
2. 3 - 3
3. 0 - 0

Week 3 Total: 4 - 3

For Week 2, here are the numbers:
1, 0 - 1
2. 4 - 1
3. 1 - 1

Week 2 Total: 5 - 3

For Week 1, here are the numbers:
1. 0 - 1 (lost by 1/2 point)
2. 1 - 5 (1 loss by 1/2 point)
3. 0 - 1

Week 1 Total: 1 - 7.

Season Totals:
1. 1 - 2
2. 13 - 14
3. 1 - 4

Season Total: 15 - 20

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October 9th, 2024 at 9:06:02 AM permalink
I’m waiting for the standings….. and for WoV historians to see if anyone has ever had 24-6 after 5 weeks…..
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October 9th, 2024 at 9:24:34 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

I’m waiting for the standings….. and for WoV historians to see if anyone has ever had 24-6 after 5 weeks…..
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Will try to post tonight but might not be able to.
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October 9th, 2024 at 11:19:25 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

I’m waiting for the standings….. and for WoV historians to see if anyone has ever had 24-6 after 5 weeks…..
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Wasn't 24-6 after five a big hit for Chicago? 😀
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October 9th, 2024 at 11:47:23 AM permalink
Quote: Johnzimbo

Quote: SOOPOO

I’m waiting for the standings….. and for WoV historians to see if anyone has ever had 24-6 after 5 weeks…..
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Wasn't 24-6 after five a big hit for Chicago? 😀
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Nice! I enjoy playing on words, and you played on numbers! Whenever I hear the Chicago song, 25 or 6 to 4, I think, “I’m going to look up the meaning later…”, and I never have until now. Thanks for the reminder!

According to Quora:
The title refers to the time of day, specifically 25 or 26 minutes until 4 a.m., which translates to 3:35 or 3:36 a.m. The song describes the experience of trying to write a song in the early morning hours, while struggling with fatigue and waiting for inspiration to strike.
It’s a dog eat dog world. …Or maybe it’s the other way around!
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October 10th, 2024 at 11:08:59 PM permalink
Week 6 odds:

Jaguars 1.5 @ Bears -1.5 O/U 44.5
Cardinals 5.5 @ Packers -5.5 O/U 47
Commanders 7 @ Ravens -7 O/U 51.5
Browns 9.5 @ Eagles -9.5 O/U 42.5
Texans -6.5 @ Patriots 6.5 O/U 38
Colts 3 @ Titans -3 O/U 43
Buccaneers -3 @ Saints 3 O/U 41
Chargers -3 @ Broncos 3 O/U 35.5
Steelers -3 @ Raiders 3 O/U 36.5
Falcons -6 @ Panthers 6 O/U 47
Lions -3 @ Cowboys 3 O/U 52
Bengals -3.5 @ Giants 3.5 O/U 47.5
Bills -2.5 @ Jets 2.5 O/U 41

Jags-Bears is London game.

If including that game, picks must be submitted by 7 am EDT. NO edits of picks including that game permitted.

Otherwise, deadline is 10 am EDT

Standings from last week will be done Friday night when I return from Las Vegas.
Last edited by: PlayYourCardsRight on Oct 10, 2024
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October 11th, 2024 at 6:10:29 AM permalink
Finally getting around to this. Hope to be much quicker next week. Two 6-0s this week, and SOOPOO continues to crush!

PlayerWeek 5 RecordWin%
avianrandy:3-350%
fourfiveface:0-60%
genwyzgy:2-433.3%
gordonm888:2-250%
indyjeffrey:3-350%
jml24:1-516.7%
johnzimbo:5-183.3%
miplet:0-00%
playyourcardsright:6-0100%
ridetheedge:4-266.7%
qfortwayne:0-50%
soopoo:6-0100%
sparty10k:3-350%
unjon:5-183.3%
vegasbrent:1-516.7%
wizard:2-433.3%



PlayerRecordWin %
soopoo:24-680%
playyourcardsright:20-676.9%
wizard:18-1162.1%
indyjeffrey:14-960.9%
avianrandy:17-1258.6%
miplet:14-1058.3%
gordonm888:16-1257.1%
unjon:16-1355.2%
vegasbrent:16-1453.3%
fourfiveface:15-1451.7%
johnzimbo:15-1550%
ridetheedge:15-1550%
sparty10k:15-1550%
genwyzgy:13-1644.8%
jml24:5-1920.8%
qfortwayne:1-206.3%
The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong; but that is the way to bet.
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October 11th, 2024 at 6:56:54 PM permalink
Not sure why but my PM to playyourcardsright is not going through.

These are my picks for Week 6
SOOPOO:
Cardinals +5.5 Confidence
Bengals -3.5
Commanders +7
Jaguars +1.5
Browns +9.5
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October 13th, 2024 at 12:08:43 AM permalink
Slightly delayed line change link: https://miplet.net/newnfl/diff.php?week=6&day=10&month=10&year=2024&hour=21
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October 13th, 2024 at 6:17:45 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Not sure why but my PM to playyourcardsright is not going through.

These are my picks for Week 6
SOOPOO:
Cardinals +5.5 Confidence
Bengals -3.5
Commanders +7
Jaguars +1.5
Browns +9.5
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Fade you in this contest but call my bookie and place a 5 team parlay tailing you?????
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October 13th, 2024 at 6:31:54 AM permalink
Quote: Johnzimbo

Quote: SOOPOO

Not sure why but my PM to playyourcardsright is not going through.

These are my picks for Week 6
SOOPOO:
Cardinals +5.5 Confidence
Bengals -3.5
Commanders +7
Jaguars +1.5
Browns +9.5
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Fade you in this contest but call my bookie and place a 5 team parlay tailing you?????
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Whenever I think I know something on which team to bet on I get brought down to earth quickly.
Expert SOOPOO thinks Commanders are still underrated. And Ravens are good, but weren’t good enough to beat lowly Raiders. And were collapsing again against the undermanned Bills until McDermott actually tried to think.
So getting a full 7 points seems ‘too good to be true’.

It’s early enough in the season that I’m not worrying about exposing my picks. I wouldn’t do so in weeks 17 and 18.
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October 13th, 2024 at 8:20:17 AM permalink
SOOPOO:
Cardinals +5.5 Confidence
Bengals -3.5
Commanders +7
Jaguars +1.5
Browns +9.5

PlayYourCardsRight:
Bears -1.5 CONFIDENCE
Commanders 7
Texans -6.5
Bengals -3.5
Bills -2.5

FourFiveFace:
Commanders 7
Patriots 6.5
Raiders 3
Panthers 6
Lions -3-Confidence

miplet:
Jaguars 1.5-confidence
Browns 9.5
Buccaneers -3
Lions -3
Jets 2.5

unJon:
Jaguars 1.5
Colts 3
Colts UNDER 43
Saints OVER 41 - confidence
Bengals -3.5

Sparty10k:
Jaguars +1.5
Patriots +6.5
Colts +3
Panthers +6
Lions over 52 – confidence

Avianrandy:
Packers -5.5
Texans -6.5
Bucs -3
Steelers -3 Confidence
Bills -2.5

Gordonm888:
Raiders 3
Panthers 6
Lions -3
Bengals -3.5
Jets 2.5 Confidence

Johnzimbo:
Bucs -3
Bucs under 41
Broncos +3
Falcons -6 confidence
Falcons under 47

genwyzgy:
Cowboys 3 - Confidence
Cowboys OVER 52
Saints OVER 41
Steelers -3
Panthers OVER 47

Vegasbrent:
Ravens -7
Browns 9.5
Titans -3-confidence
Raiders 3
Panthers 6

IndyJeffrey:
Ravens Over 51.5
Titans -3
Chargers -3 - Confidence
Cowboys 3
Bills -2.5

RideTheEdge:
Commanders 7
Colts 3
Buccaneers -3 -- Confidence
Steelers OVER 36.5
Lions -3

Wizard:
Jaguars 1.5
Commanders 7 -- confidence
Colts 3
Buccaneers -3
Jets 2.5

No picks received:
Jml24
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October 13th, 2024 at 10:03:15 AM permalink
Here is the summary.

GameAwayHomeOverUnder
Jaguars 1.5 @ Bears -1.5 O/U 44.56200
Cardinals 5.5 @ Packers -5.5 O/U 472100
Commanders 7 @ Ravens -7 O/U 51.56110
Browns 9.5 @ Eagles -9.5 O/U 42.53000
Texans -6.5 @ Patriots 6.5 O/U 382200
Colts 3 @ Titans -3 O/U 434301
Buccaneers -3 @ Saints 3 O/U 416031
Chargers -3 @ Broncos 3 O/U 35.52100
Steelers -3 @ Raiders 3 O/U 36.53310
Falcons -6 @ Panthers 6 O/U 472411
Lions -3 @ Cowboys 3 O/U 525330
Bengals -3.5 @ Giants 3.5 O/U 47.54000
Bills -2.5 @ Jets 2.5 O/U 413400
The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong; but that is the way to bet.
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October 13th, 2024 at 4:55:07 PM permalink
Updated with Cinci game and fixing Vegasbrent result

Check me please, scoring includes all but last game

SOOPOO (2-3)
X-Cardinals +5.5 Confidence
W-Bengals -3.5
Push-Commanders +7
X-Jaguars +1.5
W-Browns +9.5

PlayYourCardsRight (4-0, 1 left)
W-Bears -1.5 CONFIDENCE
Push-Commanders 7
W-Texans -6.5
W-Bengals -3.5
Bills -2.5

FourFiveFace (2-3)
Push-Commanders 7
X-Patriots 6.5
X-Raiders 3
X-Panthers 6
W-Lions -3-Confidence

miplet (3-2, 1 left)
X-Jaguars 1.5-confidence
W-Browns 9.5
W-Buccaneers -3
W-Lions -3
Jets 2.5

unJon (5-1)
X-Jaguars 1.5
W-Colts 3
W-Colts UNDER 43
W-Saints OVER 41 - confidence
W-Bengals -3.5

Sparty10k (3-3)
X-Jaguars +1.5
X-Patriots +6.5
W-Colts +3
X-Panthers +6
W-Lions over 52 – confidence

Avianrandy (5-0, 1 left)
W-Packers -5.5
W-Texans -6.5
W-Bucs -3
W-Steelers -3 Confidence
Bills -2.5

Gordonm888 (2-2, 2 left)
X-Raiders 3
X-Panthers 6
W-Lions -3
W-Bengals -3.5
Jets 2.5 Confidence

Johnzimbo (3-3)
W-Bucs -3
X-Bucs under 41
X-Broncos +3
W-Falcons -6 confidence
X-Falcons under 47

genwyzgy (4-2)
X-Cowboys 3 - Confidence
W-Cowboys OVER 52
W-Saints OVER 41
W-Steelers -3
W-Panthers OVER 47

Vegasbrent (1-4)
Push-Ravens -7
W-Browns 9.5
X-Titans -3-confidence
X-Raiders 3
X-Panthers 6

IndyJeffrey (3-2, 1 left)
W-Ravens Over 51.5
X-Titans -3
W-Chargers -3 - Confidence
X-Cowboys 3
Bills -2.5

RideTheEdge (5-0)
Push-Commanders 7
W-Colts 3
W-Buccaneers -3 -- Confidence
W-Steelers OVER 36.5
W-Lions -3

Wizard (1-2, 1 left)
X-Jaguars 1.5
Push-Commanders 7 -- confidence
W-Colts 3
W-Buccaneers -3
Jets 2.5
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Quote: PlayYourCardsRight

Check me please, scoring includes all but last two games.

SOOPOO (1-3, 1 left)
X-Cardinals +5.5 Confidence
Bengals -3.5
Push-Commanders +7
X-Jaguars +1.5
W-Browns +9.5

PlayYourCardsRight (2-0, 2 left)
W-Bears -1.5 CONFIDENCE
Push-Commanders 7
W-Texans -6.5
Bengals -3.5
Bills -2.5

FourFiveFace (2-3)
Push-Commanders 7
X-Patriots 6.5
X-Raiders 3
X-Panthers 6
W-Lions -3-Confidence

miplet (3-2, 1 left)
X-Jaguars 1.5-confidence
W-Browns 9.5
W-Buccaneers -3
W-Lions -3
Jets 2.5

unJon (5-0, 1 left)
X-Jaguars 1.5
W-Colts 3
W-Colts UNDER 43
W-Saints OVER 41 - confidence
Bengals -3.5

Sparty10k (3-3)
X-Jaguars +1.5
X-Patriots +6.5
W-Colts +3
X-Panthers +6
W-Lions over 52 – confidence

Avianrandy (5-0, 1 left)
W-Packers -5.5
W-Texans -6.5
W-Bucs -3
W-Steelers -3 Confidence
Bills -2.5

Gordonm888 (2-1, 3 left)
X-Raiders 3
X-Panthers 6
W-Lions -3
Bengals -3.5
Jets 2.5 Confidence

Johnzimbo (3-3)
W-Bucs -3
X-Bucs under 41
X-Broncos +3
W-Falcons -6 confidence
X-Falcons under 47

genwyzgy (4-2)
X-Cowboys 3 - Confidence
W-Cowboys OVER 52
W-Saints OVER 41
W-Steelers -3
W-Panthers OVER 47

Vegasbrent (2-4)
W-Ravens -7
W-Browns 9.5
X-Titans -3-confidence
X-Raiders 3
X-Panthers 6

IndyJeffrey (3-2, 1 left)
W-Ravens Over 51.5
X-Titans -3
W-Chargers -3 - Confidence
X-Cowboys 3
Bills -2.5

RideTheEdge:
Push-Commanders 7
W-Colts 3
W-Buccaneers -3 -- Confidence
W-Steelers OVER 36.5
W-Lions -3

Wizard (1-2, 1 left)
X-Jaguars 1.5
Push-Commanders 7 -- confidence
W-Colts 3
W-Buccaneers -3
Jets 2.5
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October 15th, 2024 at 7:55:23 AM permalink
Here is the final results from the week. I will get to updated standings and updated perfect weeks later this week. Congrats to AvianRandy on the perfecto:

SOOPOO (2-3)
X-Cardinals +5.5 Confidence
W-Bengals -3.5
Push-Commanders +7
X-Jaguars +1.5
W-Browns +9.5

PlayYourCardsRight (5-0)
W-Bears -1.5 CONFIDENCE
Push-Commanders 7
W-Texans -6.5
W-Bengals -3.5
W-Bills -2.5

FourFiveFace (2-3)
Push-Commanders 7
X-Patriots 6.5
X-Raiders 3
X-Panthers 6
W-Lions -3-Confidence

miplet (3-3)
X-Jaguars 1.5-confidence
W-Browns 9.5
W-Buccaneers -3
W-Lions -3
X-Jets 2.5

unJon (5-1)
X-Jaguars 1.5
W-Colts 3
W-Colts UNDER 43
W-Saints OVER 41 - confidence
W-Bengals -3.5

Sparty10k (3-3)
X-Jaguars +1.5
X-Patriots +6.5
W-Colts +3
X-Panthers +6
W-Lions over 52 – confidence

Avianrandy (6-0)
W-Packers -5.5
W-Texans -6.5
W-Bucs -3
W-Steelers -3 Confidence
W-Bills -2.5

Gordonm888 (2-4)
X-Raiders 3
X-Panthers 6
W-Lions -3
W-Bengals -3.5
X-Jets 2.5 Confidence

Johnzimbo (3-3)
W-Bucs -3
X-Bucs under 41
X-Broncos +3
W-Falcons -6 confidence
X-Falcons under 47

genwyzgy (4-2)
X-Cowboys 3 - Confidence
W-Cowboys OVER 52
W-Saints OVER 41
W-Steelers -3
W-Panthers OVER 47

Vegasbrent (1-4)
Push-Ravens -7
W-Browns 9.5
X-Titans -3-confidence
X-Raiders 3
X-Panthers 6

IndyJeffrey (4-2)
W-Ravens Over 51.5
X-Titans -3
W-Chargers -3 - Confidence
X-Cowboys 3
W-Bills -2.5

RideTheEdge (5-0)
Push-Commanders 7
W-Colts 3
W-Buccaneers -3 -- Confidence
W-Steelers OVER 36.5
W-Lions -3

Wizard (1-3)
X-Jaguars 1.5
Push-Commanders 7 -- confidence
W-Colts 3
W-Buccaneers -3
X-Jets 2.5
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October 17th, 2024 at 8:42:04 AM permalink
Time to fall on my sword. Please ignore my previous posts about these. I have done a deeper dive and found a few errors in this year's picks.

I have updated my numbers and they are below. They still are not in line with the previous years, but that may be due to the fewer number of players this year than the previous 2. Plus, we're not even halfway through the season.

The last 2 years, I've been keeping track of how the group's picks have done depending on the number of players making the pick.

The data the last 2 years have shown some predictive value:

1. Fade picks made by greater than 50% of the players. 9 - 6 (60%) over the last 2 years.
2. Tail picks made by greater than 33% of the players up to and including 50% of the players. 36 - 28 - 3 (56.3%) over the last 2 years.
3. Fade picks made by greater than 25% of the players up to and including 33% of the players. 43 - 58 - 4 (57.4%) over the last 2 years.

That's a total of 103 - 77 - 6 (57.2%) over the last 2 years. About 5 picks a week on average.

For 2024 to date:

1. 1 - 2
2. 3 - 5
3. 11 - 13

Total: 15 - 20

I'd also like to point out that 4 of the losses were by 1 or a half point! Having many outs would mitigate this if you're using this in the real world.

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October 17th, 2024 at 9:54:58 AM permalink
This week's lines

Deadlines and rules for the UK game apply.

Patriots 5.5 @ Jaguars -5.5 O/U 41
Seahawks 3 @ Falcons -3 O/U 51
Titans 9.5 @ Bills -9.5 O/U 41
Bengals -5.5 @ Browns 5.5 O/U 41.5
Lions 1.5 @ Vikings -1.5 O/U 50.5
Texans 3 @ Packers -3 O/U 47.5
Dolphins 3 @ Colts -3 O/U 43.5
Eagles -3 @ Giants 3 O/U 42.5
Panthers 8 @ Commanders -8 O/U 51.5
Raiders 6.5 @ Rams -6.5 O/U 43.5
Chiefs 1.5 @ 49ers -1.5 O/U 47
Jets -2.5 @ Steelers 2.5 O/U 38.5
Ravens -3.5 @ Buccaneers 3.5 O/U 49.5
Chargers -2.5 @ Cardinals 2.5 O/U 43.5
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October 20th, 2024 at 6:42:29 AM permalink
Hand-Calculated Standings:

PlayerRecordWin %
playyourcardsright:25-6.806
soopoo:26-9.743
avianrandy:23-12.657
indyjeffrey:18-11.621
unjon:21-14.600
wizard:19-14.576
ridetheedge:20-15.571
miplet:17-13.567
gordonm888:18-16.529
fourfiveface:17-17.500
johnzimbo:18-18.500
sparty10k:18-18.500
vegasbrent:17-18.486
genwyzgy:17-18.486
jml24:5-19.208
qfortwayne:1-25.038
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October 20th, 2024 at 6:50:11 AM permalink
Week 7 Picks (Everyone submitted):

PlayYourCardsRight:
Falcons -3
Bengals -5.5
Colts -3
Eagles -3 Confidence
Commanders -8

Soopoo:
Titans +9.5. Confidence
Browns +5.5
Chiefs +1.5
Jets -2.5
Raiders +6.5

Avianrandy:
Chiefs +1.5
Falcons -3
Packers -3 Confidence
Rams -6.5
Steelers +2.5

IndyJeffrey:
Browns OVER 41.5
Vikings -1.5
Dolphins UNDER 43.5
Chiefs UNDER 47 - CONFIDENCE
Steelers 2.5

Unjon:
Texans OVER 47.5 - confidence
Commanders -8
Rams -6.5
Steelers +2.5
Chargers OVER 43.5

Wizard:
Seahawks 3
Titans 9.5
Texans 3 -- confidence
Steelers 2.5
Cardinals 2.5

RidetheEdge:
Jaguars OVER 41
Jaguars -5.5
Falcons OVER 51
Texans OVER 47.5 -- Confidence
Rams -6.5

Miplet:
Jaguars -5.5
Titans 9.5
Commanders -8-confidence
Steelers 2.5
Cardinals 2.5

GordonM888:
Seahawks 3
Browns 5.5
Dolphins 3
Jets -2.5
Buccaneers 3.5 - Confidence

FourFiveFace:
Patriots 5.5
Titans 9.5
Browns 5.5
Lions 1.5
Raiders 6.5-Confidence

JohnZimbo:
Jaguars -5.5 confidence
49ers -1.5
Dolphins +3
Jets -2.5
Falcons -3

Sparty10K:
Bengals -5.5
Lions over 50.5
Vikings -1.5
Packers -3
Rams -6.5 confidence

VegasBrent:
Giants 3
Browns 5.5
Titans 9.5
Seahawks 3-confidence
49ers -1.5

Genwyzgy:
Colts -3 Confidence
Ravens OVER 49.5
Eagles UNDER 42.5
Rams -6.5
Chargers -2.5

Jml24:
Seahawks 3-Confidence
Giants 3
Chiefs 1.5
Steelers 2.5
Buccaneers 3.5
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Sorry to be so late again! Here are the week 6 results. Some 5-0 but only one perfect 6-0. Watch out for those pushes!

PlayerWeek 6 RecordWin%
avianrandy:6-0100%
fourfiveface:2-340%
genwyzgy:4-266.7%
gordonm888:2-433.3%
indyjeffrey:4-266.7%
jml24:0-00%
johnzimbo:3-350%
miplet:3-350%
playyourcardsright:5-0100%
ridetheedge:5-0100%
qfortwayne:0-00%
soopoo:2-340%
sparty10k:3-350%
unjon:5-183.3%
vegasbrent:1-420%
wizard:2-250%


And we have a new leader!

PlayerRecordWin %
playyourcardsright:25-680.6%
soopoo:26-974.3%
avianrandy:23-1265.7%
indyjeffrey:18-1162.1%
wizard:20-1360.6%
unjon:21-1460%
ridetheedge:20-1557.1%
miplet:17-1356.7%
gordonm888:18-1652.9%
johnzimbo:18-1850%
sparty10k:18-1850%
fourfiveface:17-1750%
genwyzgy:17-1848.6%
vegasbrent:17-1848.6%
jml24:5-1920.8%
qfortwayne:1-253.8%
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Here is the summary for week 7.

GameAwayHomeOverUnder
Patriots 5.5 @ Jaguars -5.5 O/U 411410
Seahawks 3 @ Falcons -3 O/U 516310
Titans 9.5 @ Bills -9.5 O/U 416000
Bengals -5.5 @ Browns 5.5 O/U 41.52410
Lions 1.5 @ Vikings -1.5 O/U 50.51210
Texans 3 @ Packers -3 O/U 47.52340
Dolphins 3 @ Colts -3 O/U 43.52301
Eagles -3 @ Giants 3 O/U 42.52201
Panthers 8 @ Commanders -8 O/U 51.50400
Raiders 6.5 @ Rams -6.5 O/U 43.53600
Chiefs 1.5 @ 49Ers -1.5 O/U 473202
Jets -2.5 @ Steelers 2.5 O/U 38.53600
Ravens -3.5 @ Buccaneers 3.5 O/U 49.50310
Chargers -2.5 @ Cardinals 2.5 O/U 43.51210
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October 20th, 2024 at 5:26:50 PM permalink
Week 7 results (3 games to go)

PlayYourCardsRight (5-1, done)
X-Falcons -3
Bengals -5.5
Colts -3
Eagles -3 Confidence
Commanders -8

Soopoo (2-3, 1to go)
X-Titans +9.5. Confidence
X-Browns +5.5
Chiefs +1.5
?-Jets -2.5
Raiders +6.5

Avianrandy (1-4, 1 to go)
Chiefs +1.5
X-Falcons -3
X-Packers -3 Confidence
X-Rams -6.5
Steelers +2.5

IndyJeffrey (3-2, 1 to go)
X-Browns OVER 41.5
X-Vikings -1.5
Dolphins UNDER 43.5
Chiefs UNDER 47 - CONFIDENCE
?-Steelers 2.5

Unjon (1-4, 1 to go)
X-Texans OVER 47.5 - confidence
Commanders -8
X-Rams -6.5
Steelers +2.5
X-Chargers OVER 43.5

Wizard (3-1, 2 to go)
Seahawks 3
X-Titans 9.5
Texans 3 -- confidence
?-Steelers 2.5
?-Cardinals 2.5

RidetheEdge (2-4)
Jaguars OVER 41
Jaguars -5.5
X-Falcons OVER 51
X-Texans OVER 47.5 -- Confidence
X-Rams -6.5

Miplet (3-1, 2 to go)
Jaguars -5.5
X-Titans 9.5
Commanders -8-confidence
?-Steelers 2.5
?-Cardinals 2.5

GordonM888 (1-2, 3 to go)
Seahawks 3
X-Browns 5.5
X-Dolphins 3
?-Jets -2.5
?-Buccaneers 3.5 - Confidence

FourFiveFace (3-3, done)
X-Patriots 5.5
X-Titans 9.5
X-Browns 5.5
Lions 1.5
Raiders 6.5-Confidence

JohnZimbo (2-3, 1 to go)
Jaguars -5.5 confidence
X-49ers -1.5
X-Dolphins +3
?-Jets -2.5
X-Falcons -3

Sparty10K (2-4, done)
Bengals -5.5
Lions over 50.5
X-Vikings -1.5
X-Packers -3
X-Rams -6.5 confidence

VegasBrent (2-4)
X-Giants 3
X-Browns 5.5
X-Titans 9.5
Seahawks 3-confidence
X-49ers -1.5

Genwyzgy (3-1, 2 to go)
Colts -3 Confidence
?-Ravens OVER 49.5
Eagles UNDER 42.5
X-Rams -6.5
?-Chargers -2.5

Jml24 (3-1, 2 to go)
Seahawks 3-Confidence
X-Giants 3
Chiefs 1.5
?-Steelers 2.5
?-Buccaneers 3.5
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October 20th, 2024 at 7:12:50 PM permalink
Dolphins +3 is a loss not a win
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October 20th, 2024 at 8:10:28 PM permalink
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Dolphins +3 is a loss not a win
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Fixed. Thanks.
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October 21st, 2024 at 3:33:44 AM permalink
Looks like I went 2-4. Steelers and Chiefs won. Looks like it was a rough week for most :-(
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Week 7 results

PlayYourCardsRight (5-1)
X-Falcons -3
Bengals -5.5
Colts -3
Eagles -3 Confidence
Commanders -8

Soopoo (2-4)
X-Titans +9.5. Confidence
X-Browns +5.5
Chiefs +1.5
X-Jets -2.5
Raiders +6.5

Avianrandy (2-4)
Chiefs +1.5
X-Falcons -3
X-Packers -3 Confidence
X-Rams -6.5
Steelers +2.5

IndyJeffrey (4-2)
X-Browns OVER 41.5
X-Vikings -1.5
Dolphins UNDER 43.5
Chiefs UNDER 47 - CONFIDENCE
Steelers 2.5

Unjon (2-4)
X-Texans OVER 47.5 - confidence
Commanders -8
X-Rams -6.5
Steelers +2.5
X-Chargers OVER 43.5

Wizard (5-1)
Seahawks 3
X-Titans 9.5
Texans 3 -- confidence
Steelers 2.5
Cardinals 2.5

RidetheEdge (2-4)
Jaguars OVER 41
Jaguars -5.5
X-Falcons OVER 51
X-Texans OVER 47.5 -- Confidence
X-Rams -6.5

Miplet (5-1)
Jaguars -5.5
X-Titans 9.5
Commanders -8-confidence
Steelers 2.5
Cardinals 2.5

GordonM888 (1-5)
Seahawks 3
X-Browns 5.5
X-Dolphins 3
X-Jets -2.5
X-Buccaneers 3.5 - Confidence

FourFiveFace (3-3)
X-Patriots 5.5
X-Titans 9.5
X-Browns 5.5
Lions 1.5
Raiders 6.5-Confidence

JohnZimbo (2-4)
Jaguars -5.5 confidence
X-49ers -1.5
X-Dolphins +3
X-Jets -2.5
X-Falcons -3

Sparty10K (2-4)
Bengals -5.5
Lions over 50.5
X-Vikings -1.5
X-Packers -3
X-Rams -6.5 confidence

VegasBrent (2-4)
X-Giants 3
X-Browns 5.5
X-Titans 9.5
Seahawks 3-confidence
X-49ers -1.5

Genwyzgy (4-2)
Colts -3 Confidence
Ravens OVER 49.5
Eagles UNDER 42.5
X-Rams -6.5
X-Chargers -2.5

Jml24 (4-2)
Seahawks 3-Confidence
X-Giants 3
Chiefs 1.5
Steelers 2.5
X-Buccaneers 3.5
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October 22nd, 2024 at 9:54:31 AM permalink
The last 2 years, I've been keeping track of how the group's picks have done depending on the number of players making the pick.

The data the last 2 years have shown some predictive value: (this year, not so much!)

1. Fade picks made by greater than 50% of the players. 9 - 6 (60%) over the last 2 years.
2. Tail picks made by greater than 33% of the players up to and including 50% of the players. 36 - 28 - 3 (56.3%) over the last 2 years.
3. Fade picks made by greater than 25% of the players up to and including 33% of the players. 43 - 58 - 4 (57.4%) over the last 2 years.

That's a total of 103 - 77 - 6 (57.2%) over the last 2 years. About 5 picks a week on average.

For 2024 to date:

1. 1 - 2
2. 5 - 7
3. 12 - 16

Total: 18 - 25

I'd also like to point out that 4 of the losses were by 1 or a half point! Having many outs would mitigate this if you're using this in the real world.

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October 22nd, 2024 at 6:23:44 PM permalink
Quote: PlayYourCardsRight

Week 7 results

IndyJeffrey (4-2)
X-Browns OVER 41.5
X-Vikings -1.5
Dolphins UNDER 43.5
Chiefs UNDER 47 - CONFIDENCE
Steelers 2.5
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Every week I tell myself, just pick underdogs and unders. I just cannot seem to do that...and looks where it gets me.
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October 24th, 2024 at 7:52:00 PM permalink
Week 8 Lines

Normal deadline applies: 10 AM EDT

Cardinals 4.5 @ Dolphins -4.5 O/U 46
Falcons -2.5 @ Buccaneers 2.5 O/U 46
Ravens -8.5 @ Browns 8.5 O/U 44.5
Eagles 3 @ Bengals -3 O/U 48
Titans 11.5 @ Lions -11.5 O/U 45
Packers -4 @ Jaguars 4 O/U 49
Colts 5 @ Texans -5 O/U 45.5
Jets -7 @ Patriots 7 O/U 41
Bills -3 @ Seahawks 3 O/U 47
Saints 7 @ Chargers -7 O/U 41
Panthers 10 @ Broncos -10 O/U 41.5
Bears -3 @ Commanders 3 O/U 43.5
Chiefs -9.5 @ Raiders 9.5 O/U 41.5
Cowboys 4.5 @ 49ers -4.5 O/U 47
Giants 6 @ Steelers -6 O/U 36
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October 24th, 2024 at 8:59:33 PM permalink
Line change link https://miplet.net/newnfl/diff.php?week=8&day=24&month=10&year=2024&hour=18
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PlayYourCardsRight
PlayYourCardsRight
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October 26th, 2024 at 11:26:12 AM permalink
Bumping... Needing a lot of picks still.
PlayYourCardsRight
PlayYourCardsRight
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October 27th, 2024 at 8:27:19 AM permalink
Hand-Calculated Standings:

PlayerRecordWin %
playyourcardsright:30-7.811
soopoo:28-13.683
indyjeffrey:22-13.629
wizard:24-15.615
miplet:22-14.611
avianrandy:25-16.610
unjon:23-18.561
ridetheedge:22-19.537
genwyzgy:21-20.512
fourfiveface:20-20.500
gordonm888:19-21.475
johnzimbo:20-24.455
sparty10k:20-24.455
vegasbrent:19-23.452
jml24:9-21.300
qfortwayne:1-30.032
PlayYourCardsRight
PlayYourCardsRight
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October 27th, 2024 at 9:05:05 AM permalink
WEEK 8 PICKS

PlayYourCardsRight:
Packers -4
Bills -3
Bears -3
49ers -4.5
Steelers -6 CONFIDENCE

Soopoo:
Cardinals +4.5
Falcons -2.5 Confidence
Raiders +9.5
Steelers over 36
Cowboys +4.5

Indyjeffrey:
Dolphins Under 46
Buccaneers 2.5
Bengals -3
Packers -4 - Confidence
Commanders 3

Wizard:
Cardinals 4.5 – CONFIDENCE
Eagles 3
Titans 11.5
Colts 5
Saints 7

Avianrandy:
Eagles +3
Dolphins -4.5
Patriots Under 41
Chargers -7
Bills -3 Confidence

Unjon:
Commanders UNDER 45.5 - confidence
Bears UNDER 43.5
Steelers OVER 46
Colts UNDER 45.5
Jets UNDER 41

Ridetheedge:
Eagles 3
Patriots OVER 41
Bills UNDER 47 -- Confidence
Broncos -10
Commanders 3

Genwyzgy:
Packers -4
Seahawks Over 47 Confidence
Chiefs -9.5
Steelers -6
Lions -11.5

Fourfiveface:
Titans 11.5
Seahawks 3-Confidence
Broncos -10
Raiders 9.5
Cowboys 4.5

Gordonm888:
Cardinals 4.5
Lions -11.5
Colts 5 -Confidence
Bears -3
Chiefs -9.5

Johnzimbo:
Lions -11.5 confidence
Lions under 45
Broncos -10
Broncos under 41.5
Falcons -2.5

Sparty10K:
Packers -4 confidence
Colts+5
Seahawks +3
Broncos -10
Broncos under 41.5

Vegasbrent:
Browns 8.5
Titans 11.5
Jaguars 4
Colts 5
Chargers -7-confidence

Jml24:
Browns 8.5
Eagles 3
Seahawks 3
Commanders 3
Steelers -6-Confidence

Miplet:
No picks submitted

SKIP WEEK:
Week 1: Qfortwayne
Week 2: IndyJeffrey
Week 3: Qfortwayne
Week 4: Qfortwayne, JML24
Week 5: Qfortwayne, Miplet
Week 6: Qfortwayne
Week 7: Qfortwayne
Week 8: Qfortwayne, Miplet

PERFECT WEEKS:
Week 1: Soopoo, Unjon
Week 2: None
Week 3: PlayYourCardsRight
Week 4: None
Week 5: PlayYourCardsRight, Soopoo
Week 6: AvianRandy
Week 7: None
miplet
miplet
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October 27th, 2024 at 9:13:08 AM permalink
Note to self: turning off all alarms works.
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IndyJeffrey
IndyJeffrey
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October 27th, 2024 at 4:27:27 PM permalink
Rough week. Ugh.
unJon
unJon
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October 28th, 2024 at 4:26:31 PM permalink
Looks like I accidentally picked under twice in Bears/Commanders game. Once with confidence. Lol.

It lost anyway but assume the ruling would be lose both even if it wins? Or would it be 1-2 or 2-1?
The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong; but that is the way to bet.
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