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April 27th, 2025 at 10:40:22 AM permalink
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It seems like he will get his wish. After a brief stay with the Browns, he'll most likely be cut and be able to choose the team he wants to play for. Only he'll be paid like a free agent, and not a first-round draft pick.
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I would expect at some point he will be an NFL starter QB.
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I've never seen him play, so I can't comment on his ability. From his actions, I'm not sure I'd turn over my franchise to him, but we shall see. He's already cost himself millions, and it will take years to recoup it unless he challenges the NCAA and returns to school for another year. He'll make more in NILs than with a 5th-round contract.
The NCAA rules prohibit his return, but few NCAA rules have withstood recent court cases.
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April 27th, 2025 at 11:51:34 AM permalink
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I read that he showed up physically, but was mentally checked out. Guys on Big Blue claim he was unprepared and indifferent.
The team got lucky the last time they went with an Ole Miss QB, and I think they dodged a bullet by not drafting a diva.
Big Blue added a monster rusher and drafted the QB of the future. The nice thing is he can sit while they assemble an O-line.
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Quoting from a report:

The Browns passed on Sanders 6 times before selecting him as the 144th pick.

Sanders had hoped to be selected in the first round but was passed up on because of concerns about his attitude, as reported by journalist Tom Pelissero.

"Throughout the pre-draft process, Shedeur Sanders very much proceeded as if he was dictating to clubs where he was going to go rather than how the draft works, which is the other way around," Pelissero said.

"Some of his formal interviews did not go well. An assistant coach told me, in all his years, it was the worst formal interview he'd ever been through."

"People said that Shedeur was trying to dictate how he wanted things to go and made them feel small."
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Culture fit is important. Look at what happened to Kaepernick. When Arch Manning is up for the draft I hope he remembers all this Shedeur drama and realizes that who you're related to doesn't guarantee anything.
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April 27th, 2025 at 11:55:20 AM permalink
I can't believe Shedeur didn't learn humility from Pops !!
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April 27th, 2025 at 12:03:27 PM permalink
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I can't believe Shedeur didn't learn humility from Pops !!
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His Pops might have been the finest athlete of his generation. Is Shedeur?
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April 27th, 2025 at 12:55:28 PM permalink
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It seems like he will get his wish. After a brief stay with the Browns, he'll most likely be cut and be able to choose the team he wants to play for. Only he'll be paid like a free agent, and not a first-round draft pick.
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I would expect at some point he will be an NFL starter QB.
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I've never seen him play, so I can't comment on his ability. From his actions, I'm not sure I'd turn over my franchise to him, but we shall see. He's already cost himself millions, and it will take years to recoup it unless he challenges the NCAA and returns to school for another year. He'll make more in NILs than with a 5th-round contract.
The NCAA rules prohibit his return, but few NCAA rules have withstood recent court cases.
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I watched seven or eight of Colorado's games this year and he was pretty impressive. With that being said, the offense they ran was not really an NFL style which is being held against him. I have no idea if he will be any good in the NFL, but I am guessing he will get the opportunity to start at least one game in his career.

On another note, I watched the DC Defenders play the Arlington Renegades football game today and it was pretty good. I wish more football fans would give the UFL a chance.
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April 27th, 2025 at 5:01:44 PM permalink
The Refs admitted they screwed up the ending of the Knicks game where the Knicks won by one point. After the game the Refs said that the Detroit shooter shooting a 3 pointer was fouled with 0.3 seconds left. The Detroit shooter Hardaway shoots 85% on free throws and would have had to make 2 out of 3 for the Pistons to win. He was not awarded the shots.
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April 27th, 2025 at 5:18:52 PM permalink
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The Refs admitted they screwed up the ending of the Knicks game where the Knicks won by one point. After the game the Refs said that the Detroit shooter shooting a 3 pointer was fouled with 0.3 seconds left. The Detroit shooter Hardaway shoots 85% on free throws and would have had to make 2 out of 3 for the Pistons to win. He was not awarded the shots.
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It was a really obvious foul. Hart hip checks Hardaway. Affects shot tremendously. Refs tend to try and ‘let the players determine the outcome’, when in actuality, the no-call determined the outcome.

It’s too bad. The conversation would have been about Brunson’s amazing 4th quarter, and the two bodacious shots Townes hit in the last minute. I love Coach Thibs keeping his best players on the court and ignoring the regular ‘rotation’. Coach Redick did the same thing with the Lakers, with a different result. There was an obvious kick ball the three blind mice missed towards the end of the Lakers game.
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April 27th, 2025 at 5:42:22 PM permalink
Between a Yankee doubleheader, the NBA and NHL playoffs, who has time for football? These games might do well on late-night replays.
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April 28th, 2025 at 4:52:59 AM permalink
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Between a Yankee doubleheader, the NBA and NHL playoffs, who has time for football? These games might do well on late-night replays.
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I would choose a local high school football game over watching MLB and NBA on TV. I did enjoy watching the Caps vs Canadians game yesterday.
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April 28th, 2025 at 5:26:10 AM permalink
in the hunt for the best bets paying +300 to +400 or more ... and you know why you need these ... I've lately come to appreciate certain total score 'exact' bets, these can be around +400 to +500 in certain sports. This means such an event has a pretty good chance of paying even though it loses most of the time by far. Yet I believe the HE is relatively low , and I'm thinking the variance isn't so bad? I can't be sure it'll continue, but I haven't been plagued with longer than normal losing streaks with these.

Also the tie-in-regulation bet in hockey, with is reliably +300 or so, is wandering higher, +350 and so on for the NHL playoffs , yet it seems to me ties are more likely than normal .... No, it's true I don't have the facts for that, but I can hardly believe they are less likely
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May 1st, 2025 at 8:24:02 AM permalink
Just made (and won) my largest no bonus, no boost, no special offer, live bet of my (short) on line betting career.

Halftime of Warriors/Rockets. Rockets up by 29. But Warriors up 3-1 in Series, and will play game 6 at home after this expected loss. But the over/under on Warriors stars for second half to me had not figured in the EXTREME likelihood of the Warriors stars playing very little in the second half. So bet my biggest bet on Butler under, and a smaller one on Curry under. Both played just a few minutes in the second half and sat the final 17 minutes or so.
The risk was if the Warriors went on a ‘run’, both players might have played more than usual. I picked Butler as the bigger bet because he had recent injury, and was more likely to be rested sooner.
Overall, I truly believe my bet was markedly +EV at the time I made it. And it worked exactly as ‘planned’.
For me this ‘big bet’ was low hundreds, so doesn’t move the needle. I’m wondering how big a bet a gambler could get down on those player props at halftime?
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May 1st, 2025 at 8:45:02 AM permalink
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/44938703/ncaa-deal-sportsbooks-looks-crass-sneaky-smart

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...The most recent men's basketball season, for example, included a handful of suspicious suspensions. These did not involve March Madness or SEC football, but obscure bets (say, first-half totals) on losing, low-major hoops teams...

...To be able to use the valuable real-time data -- considered the best available for accurate, in-game wagering -- sportsbooks must make a number of concessions. Most notable is the banning of individual prop bets, particularly bets on underperformance, that the NCAA considers the most easily manipulated and thus make student-athletes enticing targets...

...It's not clear how many sportsbooks, including ESPN BET, will sign on...

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May 1st, 2025 at 1:29:34 PM permalink
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Just made (and won) my largest no bonus, no boost, no special offer, live bet of my (short) on line betting career.

Halftime of Warriors/Rockets. Rockets up by 29. But Warriors up 3-1 in Series, and will play game 6 at home after this expected loss. But the over/under on Warriors stars for second half to me had not figured in the EXTREME likelihood of the Warriors stars playing very little in the second half. So bet my biggest bet on Butler under, and a smaller one on Curry under. Both played just a few minutes in the second half and sat the final 17 minutes or so.
The risk was if the Warriors went on a ‘run’, both players might have played more than usual. I picked Butler as the bigger bet because he had recent injury, and was more likely to be rested sooner.
Overall, I truly believe my bet was markedly +EV at the time I made it. And it worked exactly as ‘planned’.
For me this ‘big bet’ was low hundreds, so doesn’t move the needle. I’m wondering how big a bet a gambler could get down on those player props at halftime?
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I know Hard Rock will take 4 figures on those bets as long as the odds aren't too high. They may take bigger but that would be out of my comfort level.
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May 2nd, 2025 at 1:08:54 AM permalink
some signs my run with DK is coming to an end

latest email from them, which had usually been about an offer [good or bad], this time "catch up on these MLB articles"
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May 5th, 2025 at 3:49:20 PM permalink
SOOPOO’s ‘handicapping’ of the NBA. I in no way believe that this is positive EV….. but I am betting Celtics ML/Thunder ML/ Pacers +9 parlay. The Knicks were non competitive with the Celtics this year. No one was competitive with the Thunder this year. The Pacers just beat the Cavs, AND the Cavs picked up two major injuries.
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May 5th, 2025 at 4:04:19 PM permalink
Hmmm pacers beat Cleveland by 9 at Cleveland Sunday. Next game they play Tuesday at Indy and Cleveland is favored by 10. Over/,,,under 229.5 according to FanDuel. Good luck on your parlay. Should be an interesting series
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May 5th, 2025 at 4:05:42 PM permalink
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Hmmm pacers beat Cleveland by 9 at Cleveland Sunday. Next game they play Tuesday at Indy and Cleveland is favored by 10. Over/,,,under 229.5 according to FanDuel. Good luck on your parlay. Should be an interesting series
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Next game still in Cleveland.
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May 5th, 2025 at 7:47:41 PM permalink
that does make sense. I was looking at what CBS sports showed and it showed pacers second on May 6 so I went from there. Not first time I have been wrong
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May 6th, 2025 at 3:22:33 AM permalink
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that does make sense. I was looking at what CBS sports showed and it showed pacers second on May 6 so I went from there. Not first time I have been wrong
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You wrong? I couldn’t have been more wrong! Brunson decided Knicks would win. Jokic decided Nuggets would win. It’s interesting watching the strategy Denver uses. Jokic was much more a scorer, and less a passer, than usual. Both Celts and Thunder blew second half double digit leads.
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May 6th, 2025 at 10:47:17 AM permalink
Rumblings that the NY Legislature considering limiting people to betting five dimes per day. Might just be per site as policing people betting at more than one place would be very hard to say the least.

Anyone see any logical reason for this? That is a very low amount for a limit.
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May 6th, 2025 at 2:13:22 PM permalink
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Rumblings that the NY Legislature considering limiting people to betting five dimes per day. Might just be per site as policing people betting at more than one place would be very hard to say the least.

Anyone see any logical reason for this? That is a very low amount for a limit.
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I read it. It is limiting bettors to depositing $5k per day. Not a betting limit per se.
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May 6th, 2025 at 3:28:31 PM permalink
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Rumblings that the NY Legislature considering limiting people to betting five dimes per day. Might just be per site as policing people betting at more than one place would be very hard to say the least.

Anyone see any logical reason for this? That is a very low amount for a limit.
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I read it. It is limiting bettors to depositing $5k per day. Not a betting limit per se.
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What I saw said it limited bets as well but I was only part paying attention and it was early breaking so could have missed that. Still, a good book will have some high-rollers betting that much and more on ONE BET. I don't quite get what they are trying to accomplish,
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May 6th, 2025 at 3:31:31 PM permalink
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Rumblings that the NY Legislature considering limiting people to betting five dimes per day. Might just be per site as policing people betting at more than one place would be very hard to say the least.

Anyone see any logical reason for this? That is a very low amount for a limit.
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I read it. It is limiting bettors to depositing $5k per day. Not a betting limit per se.
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What I saw said it limited bets as well but I was only part paying attention and it was early breaking so could have missed that. Still, a good book will have some high-rollers betting that much and more on ONE BET. I don't quite get what they are trying to accomplish,
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I’ll try and not get suspended…. but it’s politicians saving us citizens from ourselves and the scourge of the big bad sports books….. which are contributing hundreds of millions of dollars to help fill the budget holes of those politicians….
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May 6th, 2025 at 3:51:51 PM permalink
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Rumblings that the NY Legislature considering limiting people to betting five dimes per day. Might just be per site as policing people betting at more than one place would be very hard to say the least.

Anyone see any logical reason for this? That is a very low amount for a limit.
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I read it. It is limiting bettors to depositing $5k per day. Not a betting limit per se.
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What I saw said it limited bets as well but I was only part paying attention and it was early breaking so could have missed that. Still, a good book will have some high-rollers betting that much and more on ONE BET. I don't quite get what they are trying to accomplish,
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I’ll try and not get suspended…. but it’s politicians saving us citizens from ourselves and the scourge of the big bad sports books….. which are contributing hundreds of millions of dollars to help fill the budget holes of those politicians….
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I will say leave it to NY to jack up something as simple as making revenue off sports betting. Probably the state that should have the 2nd biggest handle (after CA) what with all the Wall Street money and other big NYC money on it. Yet they want to make it the equivalent of having only nickel slots.
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May 6th, 2025 at 4:06:47 PM permalink
Ty Jerome to score 30 at +575.

I got more action on the Pacers but only +7.5. It’s been bet down to +5.5. So i get two ‘free’ points

Edit. Looks like I’ll need 30 free points. 1st quarter 32-15. And Jerome? Zero points.

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May 6th, 2025 at 4:07:55 PM permalink
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Ty Jerome to score 30 at +575.

I got more action on the Pacers but only +7.5. It’s been better down to +5.5. So i get two ‘free’ points
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I would probably lay the 5.5.
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May 6th, 2025 at 7:26:38 PM permalink
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Ty Jerome to score 30 at +575.

I got more action on the Pacers but only +7.5. It’s been bet down to +5.5. So i get two ‘free’ points

Edit. Looks like I’ll need 30 free points. 1st quarter 32-15. And Jerome? Zero points.

Fade SOOPOO
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I apologize if you took a bath on Boston blowing a big lead against a (supposedly) lesser team. Bunch of bozos...
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May 7th, 2025 at 4:00:43 AM permalink
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Ty Jerome to score 30 at +575.

I got more action on the Pacers but only +7.5. It’s been bet down to +5.5. So i get two ‘free’ points

Edit. Looks like I’ll need 30 free points. 1st quarter 32-15. And Jerome? Zero points.

Fade SOOPOO
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I apologize if you took a bath on Boston blowing a big lead against a (supposedly) lesser team. Bunch of bozos...
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No bath. Actually came out ahead as my biggest play was on Pacers plus 9 and plus 7.5. Luckily for me I had Thunder parlayed with Celtics so I killed two birds with one (bet) stone with those two fine picks.
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May 7th, 2025 at 7:49:31 PM permalink
I congratulate those who bet the Knicks to win. I also congratulate those who somehow were able to bet the Celtics would blow a 20 point lead...again, if such a bet were possible. I'm going back to banging my head against a wall...
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May 8th, 2025 at 1:50:55 PM permalink
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I congratulate those who bet the Knicks to win. I also congratulate those who somehow were able to bet the Celtics would blow a 20 point lead...again, if such a bet were possible. I'm going back to banging my head against a wall...
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I won a parlay with a Celtics leg covered by an "if your team goes up by X pts it auto-wins" ... and I cashed. Thought I'd mention that to rub it in [sorry]

don't worry, that impolite action will cause Karma to get me on something else ... or did it happen already? I really got screwed on something else for $50 ... won't go into it now
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May 8th, 2025 at 1:51:29 PM permalink
I got this in a yahoo email and it's really bothering me, an offer for a second chance bet with a site that I still maintain... but it that would require me to click on a link in the email. Yes, I went directly to the site instead and there is absolutely nothing there about it.

Either yahoo ... it comes from yahoo on behalf of the site! ... is butting in on something that isn't going to happen, or it actually is a completely fraudulent scam. I simply don't click on any links in any emails

It says "Recommendation from Yahoo
Yahoo Shopping Extension
Add the Yahoo Shopping Extension to find promo codes with ease
Get Back in the Game with a Second Chance! " and goes on to say how to do it, clicking on link

It's disturbing to me that this is out there. Not clicking on that link.
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May 8th, 2025 at 2:25:22 PM permalink
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I congratulate those who bet the Knicks to win. I also congratulate those who somehow were able to bet the Celtics would blow a 20 point lead...again, if such a bet were possible. I'm going back to banging my head against a wall...
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I won a parlay with a Celtics leg covered by an "if your team goes up by X pts it auto-wins" ... and I cashed. Thought I'd mention that to rub it in [sorry]

don't worry, that impolite action will cause Karma to get me on something else ... or did it happen already? I really got screwed on something else for $50 ... won't go into it now
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May 8th, 2025 at 2:32:42 PM permalink
At my book, Hard Rock, Celtics are still the favorite to win the series at -125.
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