The Rules are as follows:
How to Play:
1.) Anyone that joined WOV prior to Aug 2019 is welcome to play. There is no guarantee for reminders at any point. To play, simply PM your Picks to Mission before the deadline. If you were not in the regular season game you are only eligible to receive 25% of the payouts and the remaining money will be returned to our pool for next year.
2.) The entry fee is $0.00
3.) The prize fund is $600 and split in the following manor.
a.) 1st Place gets $200
b.) 2nd Place gets $100
c.) You suck prize for the person with the fewest amount of points is $100
d.) Mr Average for the closest to 50% will get $100
e.) Props game for the Superbowl will have an award of $100
4.) The you suck and mr average prizes are only eligible to people that made all qualifying picks. If you make any invalid picks you are disqualified from this prize
5.) Side bets are permitted, of course, but I will in no way be Administrating or acting as an intermediary for any side bets.
Making Picks:
1.) The Lines for each week will be posted Wednesday/Thursday before the weekend of the games being played. For each game, there shall be a Point Spread and an Over/Under, every player MUST make picks for the Point Spreads and Over/Unders of every game, there are no Confidence Picks.
2.) The winner will be determined by whoever scores the most points, how points are scored is as follows:
Wild Card + Divisional Playoffs: 1 Point for Every Correct Pick (8 Points Per Week)
Conference Championships: 2 Points for Every Correct Pick (8 Possible Points)
Super Bowl: 4 Points for Every Correct Pick (8 Points Possible)
Furthermore, for the Super Bowl, there will be ten questions based on Props that will be worth one point each. Thus, a perfect score will be 42 Points.
3.) Tie-Breaker
-When making your first set of Picks, you must send me your prediction for the Super Bowl Match-Up, final score, and winner of the game. In the event that either or both teams do not make it to the Super Bowl, if that is the case for both players, it will come down to how many total points those teams scored in the playoffs.
-If there is a tie for the, 'You Suck,' prize, then it will be adjudicated by sucking the worst, which means having your two Super Bowl selections score the fewest total points in the Playoffs.
Making Picks
1.) Lines will be posted each Wednesday/Thursday before the games, Picks must be made BEFORE 10:00a.m. EST on the Saturday of the games. Reminders will be sent when the Lines are posted.
2.) For the final two weeks of the Playoffs, games are only played on Sunday. Therefore, Picks will be due by 10:00a.m. EST on that Sunday.
2.) Please Format your Picks the following way:
A.) No Line Breaks
B.) For Spread picks, simply put the team nickname and the spread. (Ex: Bengals +5)
C.) For Over/Unders, simply put the team nickname for EITHER team, and the Over or Under amount. (Ex: Bengals OVER 25)
So, a full set of picks might appear:
Patriots -15
Patriots OVER 52
Jaguars +12
Jaguars UNDER 42
D.) The rules are very clear. If you fail to provide invalid picks then you will not receive points for the invalid pick. If you submit an invalid pick you will still be eligible for the first place prize but you will be ineligible for the you suck or the mr average prizes. If you fail to provide a tie breaker on your first weeks picks and you are in a tie you will automatically lose on the tie breaker.
Hopefully everyone has fun with this game, good luck to all!
Quote: GWAEI was going to fund this game with our picks game that we had.
I can really be dense sometimes but I don't see how the picks game can fund your game. Maybe you mean the side betting? Those had a rake? [I paid no attention]Quote: that picks game you are talking about (I think)Top Three Paid as Follows:
First Place: ($25 * Number of Players) - $125
Second Place: $100
Third Place: $25
Quote: odiousgambitI can really be dense sometimes but I don't see how the picks game can fund your game. Maybe you mean the side betting? Those had a rake? [I paid no attention]
GWAE ran a side game from his personal BR, betting our collective picks the first 16 weeks of the season, units based on how lopsided the group was. It did really well, +$1300 or so, and he's very kindly putting $600 from that into funding a free playoff contest, rules in this thread.
This thread. It's a pretty fun read.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/sports/33614-spring-fling-wov-picks-game-free-roll/
Quote:I will be playing for the prize money as well. The rules are posted below which are the same as they were in the past. I am posting the below as if Mission is running but if he prefers not to then I can take the lead.
I'll be happy to run the playoff game this year, thanks for asking! Honestly, I like the format/rules of this game even better than the regular WoV Picks Game, but it would be a pain to do for an entire NFL Season and there would be no natural way to weight the points.
Quote:1.) Anyone that joined WOV prior to Aug 2019 is welcome to play. There is no guarantee for reminders at any point. To play, simply PM your Picks to Mission before the deadline. If you were not in the regular season game you are only eligible to receive 25% of the payouts and the remaining money will be returned to our pool for next year.
The only reminders that I will guarantee is that I guarantee anyone who participated in the regular WoV Picks Game this year will receive reminders for WildCard week. This is easy enough to do as I just send those as soon as I post the lines. I do not guarantee any reminders beyond that and there probably will not be any reminders beyond that. Anyone who participates in this thread and states that they wish to play the playoff game will likely also receive a WildCard reminder (even if not in the regular game).
Quote:3.) Tie-Breaker
-When making your first set of Picks, you must send me your prediction for the Super Bowl Match-Up, final score, and winner of the game. In the event that either or both teams do not make it to the Super Bowl, if that is the case for both players, it will come down to how many total points those teams scored in the playoffs.
I encourage everyone to make the tiebreaker pick this year and will likely say so in the PM. I can't remember if it actually happened or not, but one year, we had either a tie (or a near tie) in which NEITHER player made the Super Bowl pick. If either player had done that and the other one not, it would have been an automatic win for the player who did, even if both teams had got knocked out of the WildCard game and had scored zero points. Remember, we should have a good few players and only 42 points are possible, so there is a very realistic chance this game comes down to the tiebreaker.
Quote:1.) Lines will be posted each Wednesday/Thursday before the games, Picks must be made BEFORE 10:00a.m. EST on the Saturday of the games. Reminders will be sent when the Lines are posted.
Reminders will be sent for the WildCard week when the lines are posted, beyond that, reminders may or may not be sent. Don't count on them. You can always set a reminder on your phone.
we still send them to Mission?
Bills (+2.5) @ Texans (-2.5) O/U 44
Titans (+5) @ Patriots (-5) O/U 44.5
Vikings (+7.5) @ Saints (-7.5) O/U 49.5
Seahawks (-1.5) @ Eagles (+1.5) O/U 45.5
Don't forget to send in your superbowl pick with winner of game and score. If you do not send it in with your first picks you will not have a tie breaker and will lose a tie to someone that has a tie breaker sent it.
Picks will be due 10am eastern time on Saturday.
Picks should be sent to Mission just like the regular season.
Quote: unJonNo. you should use the current consensus line. Not the stale opening line.
Can you edit your post to remove those lines.
Correct lines are updated in 2 minutes. Anyone that submitted picks needs to resubmit. Mission. Can you let us know if anyone submitted a pick between my pick and right now? They will need to pick another.
Quote: GWAECan you edit your post to remove those lines.
Correct lines are updated in 2 minutes. Anyone that submitted picks needs to resubmit. Mission. Can you let us know if anyone submitted a pick between my pick and right now? They will need to pick another.
I sent my picks to mission using the lines you had posted before. Should I assume those picks are not valid ?
Quote: michael99000I sent my picks to mission using the lines you had posted before. Should I assume those picks are not valid ?
yes it was my error Everyone always talks about stale lines. I thought they always used the opening lines.
Anyone that submitted will need to resubmit.
I know we had something like this happen during the regular season and mission used the posted lines. In this case no one has their money at stake so I am making the ruling that anything submitted with the old lines will need resubmitted. If someone does resubmit their picks will be the ones submitted but with the updated lines. If anyone has a problem with the ruling I will refund their buy in for the playoff picks game.
Sorry for the error. I just turned 40... brain must be going downhill.
The WildCard Lines are as follows:
Bills (+2.5) @ Texans (-2.5) O/U 44
Titans (+5) @ Patriots (-5) O/U 44.5
Vikings (+7.5) @ Saints (-7.5) O/U 49.5
Seahawks (-1.5) @ Eagles (+1.5) O/U 45.5
PLEASE REMEMBER to include your Super Bowl Picks in this PM consisting of two teams and score.
Also, Picks will be due by 10:00 EST on Saturday morning. Reminder PM's will be sent either tonight or tomorrow morning.
Quote: GWAED.) ...If you fail to provide invalid picks then you will not receive points for the invalid pick...
I am grateful for this.
The Wildcard week picks are as follows:
Mission146:
Bills +2.5
Bills UNDER 44
Titans +5
Titans UNDER 44.5
Vikings +7.5
Vikings OVER 49.5
Seahawks -1.5
Seahawks OVER 45.5
Romes:
Texans -2.5
Texans OV 44
Patriots -5
Patriots UN 44.5
Saints -7.5
Saints OV 49.5
Seahawks -1.5
Seahawks UN 45.5
miplet:
Texans -2.5
Texans UNDER 44
Titans +5
Patriots UNDER 44.5
Vikings +7.5
Saints UNDER 49.5
Seahawks -1.5
Eagles UNDER 45.5
Sparty10k
Bills +2.5 under 44
Titans +5 under 44.5
Saints -7.5 over 49.5
Seahawks -1.5 under 45.5
kuma:
Texans (-2.5)
Texans (under 44)
Titans (+5)
Patriots (under 44.5)
Saints (-7.5)
Saints (under 49.5)
Eagles (+1.5)
Eagles (under 45.5)
Djatc:
Texans -2.5
Texans UNDER44
Titans +5
Titans OVER44.5
Saints -7.5
Saints UNDER49.5
Seahawks -1.5
Eagles UNDER45.5
IndyJeffrey:
Texans -2.5
Texans UNDER 44
Titans +5
Patriots OVER 44.5
Vikings +7.5
Saints OVER 49.5
Seahawks -1.5
Seahawks UNDER 45.5
PlayYourCardsRight:
Bills +2.5
Under 44
Titans +5
Under 44.5
Saints -7.5
Over 49.5
Seahawks-1.5
Under 45.5
prozema:
Texans -2.5
Texans UNDER 44
Titans +5
Titans OVER 44.5
Vikings +7.5
Vikings UNDER 49.5
Eagles +1.5
Eagles OVER 45.5
EdCollins:
Bills +2.5
Bills Under 44
Titans +5
Titans Under 44.5
Saints -7.5
Saints Under 49.5
Seahawks -1.5
Seahawks Under 45.5
scolist:
Bills +2.5
Bills under 44
Patriots -5
Patriots under 44.5
Saints -7.5
Saints over 49.5
Seahawks -1.5
Seahawks over 45.5
Beachbumbabs:
Bills +2.5
Bills over 44
Patriots -5
Patriots under 44.5
Vikings +7.5
Vikings over 49.5
Seahawks -1.5
Seahawks over 45.5
Ayecarumba:
Bills +2.5
Bills Over 44
Titans +5
Titans Over 44.5
Vikings +7.5
Vikings Under 49.5
Eagles +1.5
Seahawks Under 45.5
Bruce1:
Texans (-2.5)
Texans Over 44
Titans (+5)
Titans under 44.5
Saints (-7.5)
Saints Over 49.5
Seahawks (-1.5)
Seahawks under 45.5
Johnzimbo:
Bills +2.5
Bills under 44
Titans +5
Titans over 44.5
Vikings +7.5
Vikings under 49.5
Seahawks -1.5
Seahawks over 45.5
JW17:
Texans Under
Titans over
Saints over
Eagles over
JOHNNYQ:
Bills (+2.5)
Patriots (-5)
Vikings (+7.5)
Eagles (+1.5)
Ayecarumba:
Bills +2.5
Titans +5
Vikings +7.5
Seahawks Under 45.5
unJon:
Texans -2.5
Texans UNDER 44
Titans +5
Titans OVER 44.5
Vikings +7.5
Vikings OVER 49.5
Seahawks-1.5
Seahawks UNDER 45.5
Joeman:
Texans -2.5
Texans UNDER 44
Titans +5
Titans UNDER 44.5
Saints -7.5
Saints OVER 49.5
Seahawks -1.5
Seahawks OVER 45.5
SOOPOO:
Texans-2.5
Texans under 44
Titans +5
Titans under 44.5
Saints-7.5
Saints over 49.5
Eagles +1.5
Eagles over 45.5
Michael99000:
Bills +2.5
Bills under 44
Titans +5
Titans under 44.5
Vikings +7.5
Vikings over 49.5
Seahawks -1.5
Seahawks under 45.5
Gordonm888
Texans -2.5
Texans Under 44
Titans +5
Titans Under 44.5
Saints -7.5
Saints Over 49.5
Seahawks -1.5
Seahawks Over 45.5
Odiousgambit:
Bills +3
Titans +5.5
Saints OVER 46
Seahawks +1
GWAE:
Bills +3
Bills Over 39.5
Titans +5.5
Titans Over 41.5
Saints -8
Saints Over 46.0
Seahawks +1
Seahawks Under 45.5
Wizard:
Texans -2.5 under 44
Titans +5 under 44.5
Vikings +7.5 under 49.5
Seahawks -1.5 under 45.5
And also , for picks like these:
JW17:
Texans Under
Titans over
Saints over
Eagles over
Does this mean he just chose the 4 totals ? Or he’s taking Texans AND the under in that game , etc
Quote: michael99000If each winning pick is 1 point, what’s the incentive for those who chose not to pick all 8 selections ?
And also , for picks like these:
JW17:
Texans Under
Titans over
Saints over
Eagles over
Does this mean he just chose the 4 totals ? Or he’s taking Texans AND the under in that game , etc
I think it means they didn't read the rules or they didn't understand them.
Quote: odiousgambitI'm going to have to send my picks, just the teams without indicating the point spread, unless the lines are posted soon. This was OK in the regular picks game so I assume ok here
we still send them to Mission?
Yes, I think so!
Consensus:
Texans: 12
Bills: 12
Over: 5
Under: 18
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Titans: 20
Pats: 4
Over: 8
Under: 15
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Saints: 12
Vikings: 11
Over: 16
Under: 8
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Seahakws: 19
Eagles: 5
Over: 9
Under: 14
2015-2016 Season: FourFiveFace won this contest with 31 points. Wizard was 2nd with 28 points and JML24 was third with 27 points.
2016-2017 Season: Scottimus1 and WizardofNothing tied with 26 points each. JohnnyQ finished in 3rd with 23 points. (Babs and Mission and SOOPOO and PlayYourCardsRight all tied for 4th Place a point behind.)
2017-2018 Season: GWAE and JohnnyQ tied for first with 28 points. Gordonm888 finished in 3rd with 26 points.
2018-2019 Season: We didn't hold the contest last year.
Quote: unJonNice overlay given the turnout and lack of instruction following!
...and entry fee...
Quote: michael99000If each winning pick is 1 point, what’s the incentive for those who chose not to pick all 8 selections ?
And also , for picks like these:
JW17:
Texans Under
Titans over
Saints over
Eagles over
Does this mean he just chose the 4 totals ? Or he’s taking Texans AND the under in that game , etc
Yes I screwed up. I wanted Texans + whatever Texans under etc.
No excuse I just screwed up.
Quote: EdCollinsPast History:
2015-2016 Season: FourFiveFace won this contest with 31 points. Wizard was 2nd with 28 points and JML24 was third with 27 points.
2016-2017 Season: Scottimus1 and WizardofNothing tied with 26 points each. JohnnyQ finished in 3rd with 23 points. (Babs and Mission and SOOPOO and PlayYourCardsRight all tied for 4th Place a point behind.)
2017-2018 Season: GWAE and JohnnyQ tied for first with 28 points. Gordonm888 finished in 3rd with 26 points.
2018-2019 Season: We didn't hold the contest last year.
Lmao I would have wage wagered that I never placed. My memory is slipping now that I am north of 40
Anyway, I'm going to put my picks down here just so I can follow along.
Bills +3.5
Bills over 44
Titans +5
Titans Under 45
Saints -7.5
Saints Under 49.5
Eagles +1.5
Eagles Over 45.5
Acknowledged. Thanks JW. I assumed differently. My graphic and consensus data on the prior page has been revised.Quote: JW17Yes I screwed up. I wanted Texans + whatever Texans under etc.
No excuse I just screwed up.
Quote: GenWyzgyStupid me forgot about this until I was watching the Bills/Texans game.
Anyway, I'm going to put my picks down here just so I can follow along.
Bills +3.5
Bills over 44
Titans +5
Titans Under 45
Saints -7.5
Saints Under 49.5
Eagles +1.5
Eagles Over 45.5
Bills +3.5....I don;t think so Scooter :)
Quote: GenWyzgyStupid me (snip) I'm going to put my picks down here just so I can follow along (snip)
Same for me (especially about being stupid, lol).
Bills +2.5
Bills Under 44
Titans +5
Titans Over 44.5
Vikings +7.5
Vikings Under 49.5
Eagles +1.5
Eagles Under 45.5
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Note: even though they are not official picks (they don't count for this competition) at least one member should be able to vouch for them being on "before the kick-off of the first game, today".
Quote: JohnzimboBills +3.5....I don;t think so Scooter :)
Hey, I went from book to book until I found a little dark room in the basement of an abandoned casino that was offering the extra point on the Bills!
Don't worry. You’ll be 3-5 after the Seahawks win. 😎Quote: GWAEI am shooting for worst record. 1-5 so far.
Yep. When in doubt, choose what ever comes last alphabetically.Quote: WizardI obviously have taught Miplet all my tricks.
all I can say is thanks Gwae for being generous, but I will let the rest of you compete for the prizes, good luck and thanks again
Quote: GenWyzgy
Bills +3.5 (note - should have been -2.5) L
Bills over 44 L
Titans +5 W
Titans Under 45 W
Saints -7.5 L
Saints Under 49.5 W
Eagles +1.5 L
Eagles Over 45.5 L
So I'd be hanging out with the basement dwellers at 3 points after Wild Card Weekend. Great job Wizard and Miplet to go 8 for 8!
Quote: EdCollinsFor review:
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Consensus:
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Texans: 12
Bills: 12
Over: 5
Under: 18
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Titans: 20
Pats: 4
Over: 8
Under: 15
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Saints: 12
Vikings: 11
Over: 16
Under: 8
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Seahakws: 19
Eagles: 5
Over: 9
Under: 14
Thank you for the information!
The Conference Semi-Final lines are as follows:
Vikings (+7) @ 49ers (-7) O/U 44.5
Titans (+9.5) @ Ravens (-9.5) O/U 47
Texans (+9.5) @ Chiefs (-9.5) O/U 51
Seahawks (+4) @ Packers (-4) O/U 47
Reminders to be sent out at some point tomorrow, probably around noonish.
49ers -7
49ers Under
Titans +9.5
Titans Over
Texans +9.5
Texans Over
Seahawks +4
Seahawks Under
My Picks were a few minutes late, by the way, but I didn't see anyone else's picks. If I'm disqualified, that's perfectly fine. I'd have just rolled any winnings into some other contest or carried them over, anyway.
The Conference Semi-Final Picks are as follows:
Mission146:
Vikings +7
Vikings OVER 44.5
Titans +9.5
Titans UNDER 47
Texans +9.5
Texans OVER 51
Seahawks +4
Seahawks UNDER 47
Bruce1:
Vikings (+7)
Vikings over 44.5
Titans (+9.5)
Titans over 47.5
Texans (+9.5)
Texans over 51
Seahawks (+4)
Seahawks under 47
Johnzimbo:
Vikings +7
Vikings over 44.5
Ravens -9.5
Ravens under 47
Chiefs -9.5
Chiefs under 51
Seahawks +4
Seahawks over 47
GWAE:
Vikings +7
49ers U 44.5
Titans +9.5
Ravens U 47
Texans +9.5
Chiefs U 51
Seahawks +4
Packers U 47
Beachbumbabs:
Vikings +7
Vikings over 44.5
Ravens -9.5
Ravens under 47
Chiefs -9.5
Chiefs under 51
Packers -4
Packers over 47
KSDJDJ:
49ers -7
49ers Under 44.5
Ravens -9.5
Ravens Under 47
Chiefs -9.5
Chiefs Under 51
Packers -4
Packers Under 47
Wizard:
Vikings (+7) under 44.5
Titans (+9.5) under 47
Texans (+9.5) under 51
Seahawks (+4) under 47
unJon:
Vikings +7
Vikings OVER 44.5
Ravens -9.5
Ravens OVER 47
Chiefs -9.5
Chiefs UNDER 51
Seahawks +4.5
Seahawks UNDER 47
EdCollins:
49ers (-7) Over 44.5
Ravens (-9.5) Over 47
Chiefs (-9.5) Over 51
Seahawks (+4) Over 47
IndyJeffrey:
Vikings +7
Vikings UNDER
Titans +9.5
Ravens OVER
Texans +9.5
Texans OVER
Packers -4
Packers UNDER
Gordonm888:
Vikings +7
Vikings under 44.5
Ravens -9.5
Ravens under 47
Chiefs -9.5
Chiefs under 51
Seahawks +4
Seahawks over 47
Joeman:
Vikings +7
Vikings UNDER 44.5
Titans +9.5
Titans UNDER 47
Chiefs -9.5
Chiefs OVER 51
Packers -4
Packers UNDER 47
JohnnyQ:
Vikings (+7)
Titans (+9.5)
Texans (+9.5)
Packers (-4)
Vikings O 44.5
Titans U 47
Texans U 51
Seahawks U 47
prozema:
49ers -7
49ers UNDER 44.5
Ravens -9.5
Ravens UNDER 46.5
Chiefs -9.5
Chiefs OVER 51
Packers -4
Packers UNDER 47
Sparty10k:
49ers -7 under 44.5
Titans +9.5 under 47
Texans +9.5 under 51
Seahawks +4 under 47
JW17:
49ers -7
49ers over
Titans +9.5
Titans under
Chiefs -9.5
Chiefs over
Packers under
SOOPOO:
Vikings +7
Vikings over
Titans +9.5
Titans under
Texans +9.5
Texans under
Packers -4
Packers over
Romes:
49ers -7
49ers OVER 44.5
Ravens -9.5
Ravens OVER 47
Texans +9.5
Texans OVER 51
Packers -4
Packers UNDER 47
Ayecarumba:
Vikings +7
49ers Over 44.5
Titans +9.5
Ravens Over 47
Chiefs -9.5
Texans Under 51
Packers -4
Seahawks Under 47
DJATC:
Vikings +7
Vikings UNDER44.5
Ravens -9.5
Ravens UNDER47
Texans +9.5
Texans OVER51
Packers -4
Seahawks UNDER47
miplet:
Vikings +7
49ers UNDER 44.5
Ravens -9.5
Ravens UNDER 47
Chiefs -9.5
Chiefs UNDER 51
Seahawks +4
Packers UNDER 47
PlayYourCardsRight
49ers -7
49ers Under
Ravens -9.5
Ravens Under
Chiefs -9.5
Chiefs Under
Seahawks +4
Seahawks Under
kuma:
Vikings (+7)
49ers (under 44.5)
Ravens (-9.5)
Ravens (under 47)
Chiefs (-9.5)
Texans (over 51)
Packers (-4)
Packers (under 47)
scolist:
Vikings +7
Vikings Over 44.5
Ravens -9.5
Ravens Over 47
Texans +9.5
Texans Over 51
Packers -4
Packers Over 47
Quote: EdCollinsThanks. Please note that JW17 is missing one selection. (Packers/Hawks spread winner.)
Verified: That selection does not exist.
Quote: EdCollinsThanks. Please note that JW17 is missing one selection. (Packers/Hawks spread winner.)
Based on how he did his picks I think Packers -4.5 is a safe assumption. But understand if he can’t get credit for it under the rules.
Vikings 17; 49ers 7
Over 12; Under 12
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Titans 11; Ravens 13
Over 7; Under 17
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Texans 11; Chiefs 13
Over 11; Under 13
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Seahawks 11; Packers 12
Over 6; Under 18