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September 8th, 2019 at 7:01:13 PM permalink
I posted this in the picks game thread but I wanted to dedicate a thread to this.

I am offering a free roll (towards dinner at spring fling). I am going to use the consensus picks against the line and make those bets at my local. However what this means is my lines will be slightly different than what are posted because of the stale lines. I am also not using over/unders for a reason I do not want to discuss. I know this will make the outcomes different, but this is a free roll so if you do not like it then F you. I am going to bet 1 unit per unit against the line. My unit is going to be $10. On the games that I just bet they were all -110 so my $10 will win 9.09. I know people usually bet 110 to win 100 (or 11 to win 10) so I guess technically my unit is $9.09.
So my bets will be something like this. We had 4 picks on Falcons and 2 on Vikings. If there is a confidence pick it counts as 2. So for this game I wagered 2 units on Falcons.
We had 17 on broncos and 0 on raiders so I put 17 units on the broncos.

Rules: I will donate any wins that I get on this towards dinner at the spring fling. You must be in the picks contest to benefit from the dinner free roll so if you are at the spring fling but not in this contest then you get nothing. Also if you are in this contest and you do not attend the spring fling you also get nothing. I believe you can enter this contest until week 2 so you still have a chance to get in. Since Mission will not post the picks until close to game time there may be a few weeks that I do not get the picks in. The only picks that count towards this are the ones that I post each week. I gotta protect against some vulchers ordering a $30 steak so the max contribution will be the first $200 plus 33% of winnings after $200. I am the sole judge of this contest and can change the rules at anytime. If you don't like it then feel free to opt out.
Here is what I bet on just now.
Falcons -3.5 $20
Redskins +10 $10
Bills +2.5 $50
Ravens -7 $30
49ers +1 $10
Chiefs -3.5 $100
Browns -5.5 $10
Rams -1.5 $60
Cardinals +2.5 $20
Bengals +9.5 $20
Chargers -6 $40
Cowboys -7 $70
Steelers +6 $20
Texans +6.5 $60
Total wagered $520

I would like an opinion. In one of the weeks I was going to switch to only using the people in the top half of the standings as there may be some people starting to go for the bottom or even the middle. What do you think? If so which week should I switch?
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September 8th, 2019 at 7:04:12 PM permalink
Looks like a good week 1 start. cost of bets today were $520. Current cashout is $786.33 with Texans game still to play.

Benefited from a change in line today. Contest had charges at -6.5. I got them at -6 this morning which resulted in a push.
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September 8th, 2019 at 7:10:56 PM permalink
Mehhh.... .DarkOz buys dinner with no strings attached.😃
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September 8th, 2019 at 7:11:10 PM permalink
Thatís over $200 right there. Call it! Bonus over!
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September 8th, 2019 at 7:16:36 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Thatís over $200 right there. Call it! Bonus over!



lol no way where is the fun in that. ok I will change it
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September 8th, 2019 at 7:20:59 PM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

Mehhh.... .DarkOz buys dinner with no strings attached.😃



whenever I can overtake TMFBRAPOATOTEC then I will buy dinner with no strings.
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September 8th, 2019 at 7:53:39 PM permalink
Visit. https://easy.vegas/
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September 8th, 2019 at 8:10:25 PM permalink
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Visit. https://easy.vegas/



Why
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September 8th, 2019 at 8:19:51 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

Why



Why not?

We are down to a hype site for https://easy.vegas/

So why not?
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September 8th, 2019 at 8:47:10 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

whenever I can overtake TMFBRAPOATOTEC then I will buy dinner with no strings.



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September 8th, 2019 at 9:24:55 PM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

Mehhh.... .DarkOz buys dinner with no strings attached.😃

You didn't even mention the best part..... he doesn't even show up.

Just kidding, DarkOz, I know you had a bus to catch 🤣.
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September 9th, 2019 at 6:58:20 AM permalink
Quote: GWAE

Looks like a good week 1 start. cost of bets today were $520. Current cashout is $786.33 with Texans game still to play.

Benefited from a change in line today. Contest had charges at -6.5. I got them at -6 this morning which resulted in a push.


I donít actually understand whatís going on here, but youíre still taking me to Ramseyís Steak?
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September 9th, 2019 at 8:28:24 AM permalink
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I donít actually understand whatís going on here, but youíre still taking me to Ramseyís Steak?



If you are in the picks game and go to spring fling you get free food if I win my bets. My bets are based on the combined picks made in the picks game.
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September 9th, 2019 at 8:40:42 AM permalink
Quote: GWAE

If you are in the picks game and go to spring fling you get free food if I win my bets. My bets are based on the combined picks made in the picks game.


So I donít get dinner because you hate me?
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September 9th, 2019 at 8:46:28 AM permalink
Quote: PokerGrinder

So I donít get dinner because you hate me?

It wouldn't hurt you to skip a dinner or two, you know, because your diet and all.
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September 9th, 2019 at 8:52:31 AM permalink
Quote: PokerGrinder

So I donít get dinner because you hate me?



no, no dinner cause you are too cheap to enter the picks contest ;-)

I will buy you a 444 at the finest wendys in town
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September 9th, 2019 at 8:53:19 AM permalink
oh crap, I forgot to add to my terms.. Unless something really bad happens to me.
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September 9th, 2019 at 9:25:40 AM permalink
Quote: GWAE

no, no dinner cause you are too cheap to enter the picks contest ;-)

Well that's just BS, me and PokerGrinder are going to start our own contest just so we can purposely not invite you.

I actually think we could probably get an online poker tournament going with the members here at Wizard of Vegas.

I already have a name in mind: The really fun no GWAE poker tournament. Free soda for all participants.
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September 9th, 2019 at 9:47:26 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

It wouldn't hurt you to skip a dinner or two, you know, because your diet and all.


Ouch that would hurt if it werenít true 😢
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September 9th, 2019 at 10:39:14 AM permalink
I'm in. I recommend using all the players picks every week. Implying that because some players were lucky in the first half that they will be lucky in the second half makes no sense. You don't think we have anyone here good enough to beat the vig reliably, do you? No matter what, please dont take the Dolphins ever....
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September 9th, 2019 at 10:42:18 AM permalink
I'm still sticking with DarkOz.🙄 The GWAE plan just has too many stipulations.🙃
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September 9th, 2019 at 12:10:59 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Well that's just BS, me and PokerGrinder are going to start our own contest just so we can purposely not invite you.

I actually think we could probably get an online poker tournament going with the members here at Wizard of Vegas.

I already have a name in mind: The really fun no GWAE poker tournament. Free soda for all participants.



we can call that meet up wedding 2.0
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September 9th, 2019 at 12:13:11 PM permalink
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I'm in. I recommend using all the players picks every week. Implying that because some players were lucky in the first half that they will be lucky in the second half makes no sense. You don't think we have anyone here good enough to beat the vig reliably, do you? No matter what, please dont take the Dolphins ever....



I will do all, and no probably can not beat the vig but you never know. Very true about people getting lucky, plus if the people going for last place try to go last place wouldn't that be the same as them doing good since they already are doing bad.
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September 9th, 2019 at 4:13:00 PM permalink
Texas +7 if you can still get it (you can on some sites).
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
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September 9th, 2019 at 5:21:40 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

Texas +7 if you can still get it (you can on some sites).



I already made the bet. I thought about waiting to see if it moved. Owell.
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September 9th, 2019 at 7:48:48 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

I already made the bet. I thought about waiting to see if it moved. Owell.

Doesn't look like the 1/2 point mattered, for your bet, or my rather large bet =D.
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September 10th, 2019 at 3:10:13 AM permalink
Pretty Good Week. Keep this up and the spring fling will be held at top of Binions next year.

Falcons -3.5 $20 L
Redskins +10 $10 W 19.09
Bills +2.5 $50 W 95.45
Ravens -7 $30 W 57.27
49ers +1 $10 W 19.09
Chiefs -3.5 $100 W 190.91
Browns -5.5 $10 L
Rams -1.5 $60 W 114.55
Cardinals +2.5 $20 W 38.18
Bengals +9.5 $20 W 38.18
Chargers -6 $40 push 40
Cowboys -7 $70 W 133.64
Steelers +6 $20 L
Texans +6.5 $60 W 114.55
Total wagered $520

10-3-1
Wagered $520
Cashed out $860.91
Profit $340.91
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September 10th, 2019 at 4:06:00 AM permalink
So, you never got the money down on the Broncos, eh?
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September 10th, 2019 at 7:36:40 AM permalink
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So, you never got the money down on the Broncos, eh?



I originally had the money down on Oakland by accident. I screwed up and saw the +2 and took that side which was the wrong side. It was brought to my attention in the other thread so I cancelled that bet. Apparently I should have just let the bet stand but I guess it is a good thing that I did not make the proper bet.
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September 10th, 2019 at 10:14:24 AM permalink
Wow, a nice week! Well done.
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September 12th, 2019 at 2:28:41 PM permalink
Please don't take the Jets this week.
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September 12th, 2019 at 4:50:14 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Please don't take the Jets this week.



yeah I saw there are some issues.
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September 15th, 2019 at 9:11:27 AM permalink
Thanks to Ed for the chart. Hope he doesnt mind me stealing it. Wagers to come soon.

Quote: EdCollins



Game Line Total Visitor Home
Tampa Bay Buccaneers @ Carolina Panthers
-
-
San Francisco 49ers @ Cincinnati Bengals
-1.5
45.5
6
4
Los Angeles Chargers @ Detroit Lions
2.5
47.5
2
11
Minnesota Vikings @ Green Bay Packers
-3
44
8
3
Jacksonville Jaguars @ Houston Texans
-8.5
43.5
6
3
New England Patriots @ Miami Dolphins
18.5
48.5
4
14
Buffalo Bills @ New York Giants
1.5
44
4
1
Indianapolis Colts @ Tennessee Titans
-3
44
2
5
Seattle Seahawks @ Pittsburgh Steelers
-4
47
8
1
Arizona Cardinals @ Baltimore Ravens
-13
46.5
8
1
Dallas Cowboys @ Washington Redskins
5.5
46.5
8
6
Kansas City Chiefs @ Oakland Raiders
7
53.5
4
6
Chicago Bears @ Denver Broncos
2.5
40.5
9
7
New Orleans Saints @ Los Angeles Rams
-2
52
2
10
Philadelphia Eagles @ Atlanta Falcons
1.5
52.5
4
2
Cleveland Browns @ New York Jets
6.5
44
6
2

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September 15th, 2019 at 10:09:30 AM permalink
So this week I have some terrible lines and even some extra juice. I also did not get the 49ers game in. I know I had bet it but I must not have confirmed it or something. About an hour ago I was putting everything together but I was having internet problems. The lines were changing so quickly right before game time and some of them added extra juice right before as well. Since I am new to sports betting I didn't realize that they were as dynamic as they are. I know they change throughout the week but I ddin't realize they changed like horsebetting.

Here are our wagers for this week. We have $670 in action. Lets hope for a second week of positive variance.

$30 Titans -3 -115
$90 Lions +2 -115
$30 Bills -1.5 -110
$70 Cardinals +12.5 -110
$100 Dolphins +18.5 -110
$20 Cowboys -7 +100
$30 Jaguars 7 -110
$70 Seahawks +4
$50 Vikings +3 -115
$20 Raiders +7 -110
$80 Rams -1.5 -110
$20 Bears -2 -110
$20 Eagles -1 -110
$40 Browns -7 -110
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September 15th, 2019 at 11:25:38 AM permalink
You bet the Dolphins? Lmao such a fish 🤣
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September 15th, 2019 at 11:31:26 AM permalink
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You bet the Dolphins? Lmao such a fish 🤣



Hey blame all the people that picked them
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September 15th, 2019 at 1:47:25 PM permalink
Even with the terrible patriots bet we have locked in a win for week 2. currently sitting at $727.81 with $670 wagered. There are still $180 in wagers outstanding. Stale lines did not impact any picks in the first slate of games.
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September 15th, 2019 at 2:16:32 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

Hey blame all the people that picked them


Hey you bet real American dollars on a terrible bet, thatís on you lol. Also the biggest bet of the day?
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September 15th, 2019 at 2:21:52 PM permalink
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Hey you bet real American dollars on a terrible bet, thatís on you lol. Also the biggest bet of the day?



hey then people should have picked the other side.
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September 15th, 2019 at 2:30:36 PM permalink
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Hey you bet real American dollars on a terrible bet, thatís on you lol. Also the biggest bet of the day?



hey you dont have to be cranky because you arent in the contest. I will still buy you dinner if we do well.
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September 15th, 2019 at 3:27:02 PM permalink
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hey you dont have to be cranky because you arent in the contest. I will still buy you dinner if we do well.


Lol isnít it your money that youíre betting though?
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September 15th, 2019 at 3:53:07 PM permalink
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Lol isnít it your money that youíre betting though?



Nope.. it is donated money to this cause. Either way $300 will be gone.
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September 15th, 2019 at 4:07:56 PM permalink
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Nope.. it is donated money to this cause. Either way $300 will be gone.


And you call yourself an AP 🤣
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September 15th, 2019 at 4:22:16 PM permalink
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And you call yourself an AP 🤣



? I don't think that I have ever called myself that.
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September 15th, 2019 at 4:36:33 PM permalink
Bears picks game -2.5, stale line saved us again. I got it at -2 which turned into a push. YAY.
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September 15th, 2019 at 4:41:43 PM permalink
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? I don't think that I have ever called myself that.

I would consider you a part-time Advantage Player who is limited due to other obligations such as family and children. You certainly seek value and understand Advantage Play conceptsand math well enough. You know somethings good when you see it. I actually think you probably make a good full time Advantage Player if that's something you had the time and willingness to do. I would certainly like to do business with you. All my interactions I've had with you I've been very Pleasant and I believe you're and honest hard-working guy with a great sense of humor.

That was a little too nice coming from me...I think I gotta go throw up now.
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September 15th, 2019 at 4:46:44 PM permalink
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I would consider you a part-time Advantage Player who is limited due to other obligations such as family and children. You certainly seek value and understand Advantage Play conceptsand math well enough. You know somethings good when you see it. I actually think you probably make a good full time Advantage Player if that's something you had the time and willingness to do. I would like to do business with someone like you. All my interactions I've had with you I've been very Pleasant and I believe you're and honest hard-working guy with a great sense of humor.



aww thanks Axel. You are correct though. I wish that I would have known about this life before kids. I did crush online bonuses in the 2000's.

I live both sides of the conversation. I like to blow money at a casino for recreation. I enjoy doing those things. But I love to AP them when I get the chance to. If I am doing any type of AP, I do not do anything at all for rec on the same visit. I separate them 100%. If I could AP full time or had more opportunities locally I would probably not do any of the recreation things, or at least much less often.
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September 15th, 2019 at 4:53:06 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

aww thanks Axel. You are correct though. I wish that I would have known about this life before kids. I did crush online bonuses in the 2000's.

I live both sides of the conversation. I like to blow money at a casino for recreation. I enjoy doing those things. But I love to AP them when I get the chance to. If I am doing any type of AP, I do not do anything at all for rec on the same visit. I separate them 100%. If I could AP full time or had more opportunities locally I would probably not do any of the recreation things, or at least much less often.

Wait a minute, you know about Advantage Play before you had kids and still decided to have more than one? I guess some people lack good decision-making skills.
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September 15th, 2019 at 5:05:54 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Wait a minute, you know about Advantage Play before you had kids and still decided to have more than one? I guess some people lack good decision-making skills.



The funny part is when I did the bonus whoring I thought that I found something and I was the only one :-( Then I invented the martingale. I had no idea to the extent APing could go.
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September 15th, 2019 at 5:37:06 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I would consider you a part-time Advantage Player who is limited due to other obligations such as family and children. You certainly seek value and understand Advantage Play conceptsand math well enough. You know somethings good when you see it. I actually think you probably make a good full time Advantage Player if that's something you had the time and willingness to do. I would certainly like to do business with you. All my interactions I've had with you I've been very Pleasant and I believe you're and honest hard-working guy with a great sense of humor.

That was a little too nice coming from me...I think I gotta go throw up now.


This!

Ugh I agree with Axel, I feel gross now.
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