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August 12th, 2019 at 9:32:20 AM permalink
Yup
Its that time of year as I see pre-season games on TV
Hopefully Mission is up to running this again
Thanks Mission

Lets get this thing started
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August 12th, 2019 at 11:25:50 AM permalink
Quote: terapined

Yup
Its that time of year as I see pre-season games on TV
Hopefully Mission is up to running this again
Thanks Mission

Lets get this thing started



You've got it! I'm pretty busy over the next few days, but I'll be getting on this at some point closer to the weekend. Last year it was mentioned that someone might want to run the game in a different way (using CBS Sports), so I am waiting until the 15th to see if that happens like I said in last year's thread. If not, then we'll get underway. If so, then I'm not going to run a directly competing game with substantially similar rules.

In the meantime, it just occurred to me why I have such mixed feelings about Jon Gruden:

Jon Gruden is your friend's overbearing, "Baseball Dad," who yells from the bleachers to, "Put some wood on the ball," right after you've just taken a four pitch walk. Walk twice in the game and he'll put his hand on your shoulder after and say, "Don't be afraid to swing, just get up there and be confident," and then give you an uncomfortably hard smack on the ass as you're walking away.

Why baseball, anyway? I played a few different sports growing up and baseball was the only one where you get slapped on the ass all the time.

Back to Gruden, so your own parents couldn't make that game and you had to ride with Gruden back home. On the one hand, he spends the entire time in his rusty pickup truck giving you unsolicited baseball advice even though you went 2-2 with two walks, two runs and an RBI. He's still preaching about being more aggressive at the plate. You kind of want to tell him to shut the hell up, but just having the thought that he should shut the hell up makes you feel bad because he's just really earnest about it and happy to be talking baseball with the kids. You kind of wonder why he's not the coach, after all, he is at every game...turns out it's because the other dads can't stand him...

You chuckle to yourself as you realize that this soliloquy is the exact reason the other dads don't want him around, but then he pulls into Dairy Queen and says, "Anything you boys want, my treat!" And, now you REALLY feel bad for having these negative thoughts about the guy.

Maybe I only feel this way because my friend's dad was a baseball dad and actually looked kind of like Gruden, just with a little bit less hair. I swear to God it was the same voice, too, just toned down a little bit in the case of my friend's dad because this was the Midwest. Midwest/Appalachia, anyway.

There's one very important difference, though. My friend's dad wasn't an overbearing TV-time hogging NFL coach who got paid 2.5 million, per win last year who is now kowtowing left and right to that diva, Antonio Brown.

Screw you, Gruden. You're so annoying and you've never bought me a milkshake.

(I just looked and Gruden was born and grew up some in Ohio and the rest in Indiana. It all makes so much sense, now.)
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August 12th, 2019 at 12:37:57 PM permalink
Oh, man this is internet GOLD! Well done Mission!

I love Gruden though. A big league needs big personalities. His picture should be on cans of Jolt cola. I wonder what Tom Landry and him in a room would be like?
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August 12th, 2019 at 2:49:32 PM permalink
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August 12th, 2019 at 8:22:23 PM permalink
What is the deal with the new helmets? Its reported that Antonio Brown is having a s###-fit about the helmets and Tom Brady saying that he preferred his old helmet.
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August 13th, 2019 at 4:58:17 AM permalink
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What is the deal with the new helmets? Its reported that Antonio Brown is having a s###-fit about the helmets and Tom Brady saying that he preferred his old helmet.



I read the question in a Seinfeld voice, I hope you don’t mind.

The NFL has a number of guidelines relating to helmets. One of them is that a helmet design more than ten years old can no longer be used and the other is a helmet must be NFL approved. I believe they’ve approved 36 different models, something like that.

Anyway, Antonio Brown’s just a diva who doesn’t want to practice except for when he wants to practice. He was never going to retire over it. Our personal Lord, Savior and the Son of God, Thomas Edward Patrick Brady Jr. simply stated, with dignity and aplomb, that he preferred his old helmet, but rules are rules.

Anyway, it’s not unusual to get attached to a particular piece of equipment after years of using it. It fits/feels just right. Superstition often then turns into confirmation bias because using something else shakes your confidence. I don’t know that Brady would have said anything except I think someone directly asked him.
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August 13th, 2019 at 5:28:23 AM permalink
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The NFL has a number of guidelines relating to helmets. One of them is that a helmet design more than ten years old can no longer be used

Feel free to read the following with your Seinfeld voice as well: What kind of effed up rule is that? Without testing, they just assume a new helmet is inherently safer than an older design? I'm sure most, if not all are, but to blindly make a blanket rule like that (with what I would assume is an arbitrary time-frame) defies logic. It is possible they could be banning a safer helmet while requiring the use of an inferior one.

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Anyway, Antonio Brown’s just a diva who doesn’t want to practice except for when he wants to practice. He was never going to retire over it.

I would agree 100% that ol' Frozen Toes is quite the diva. But I can actually see his point. He claims that the new designs protrude out farther from the forehead than his old helmet, limiting his field of vision. For a receiver, especially a deep-ball threat like AB, I can see how that could impede his abilities.
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August 13th, 2019 at 5:47:13 AM permalink
I would assume the new helmet designs are rigorously tested. The goal of the new helmet designs is that they are constructed in a way to minimize head trauma and make concussions less likely. They probably test them on dummies or have other mechanisms that test for the force of impact to the actual cranium.

In the case of Brady and Brown, they have a dual-problem when it comes to the helmets. The first is that their physical helmets are more than ten years old, which is forbidden by the rule. The second problem is that the manufacturers themselves no longer make that particular type of helmet. If the helmet model was still being made (and was approved) they could just get a new one.

That may be, but there are plenty of other receivers in the league and we don't hear them threatening to retire. Again, AB just doesn't want to practice except for when he wants to practice, that's all. You'll see him out there on gameday, sure enough, unless he gets cold feet again. I honestly don't think Goddell would have been heartbroken had Brown retired.
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August 13th, 2019 at 6:03:30 AM permalink
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You'll see him out there on gameday, sure enough, unless he gets cold feet again.

That is hilarious. Thanks for the laugh this morning, Mission!
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August 13th, 2019 at 9:37:22 AM permalink
so glad AB is out of here. Such fun to watch from the outside.
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August 13th, 2019 at 11:05:22 AM permalink
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(I just looked and Gruden was born and grew up some in Ohio and the rest in Indiana. It all makes so much sense, now.)



It seems like almost every football coach has ties to Ohio.
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August 13th, 2019 at 11:20:35 AM permalink
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It seems like almost every football coach has ties to Ohio.



Please, DR. Your above comment is a thread hijack, not vegas or gambling related, and thus has NO PLACE here on WoV. Please follow the new rule.

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August 13th, 2019 at 11:24:11 AM permalink
I respectfully request that anything related to football, and the NFL specifically, be permitted in this thread. Does anyone want to make a wager as to whether or not the next new NFL head coach is from Ohio?
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August 13th, 2019 at 11:45:54 AM permalink
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(And good luck with surgery.... If we don't here from you post op we will be worried...)



I expect that I will be back on this forum tomorrow evening polluting these threads. My laptop is going to the hospital with me.
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August 13th, 2019 at 12:51:15 PM permalink
I may re-join this year if Mission will have me...we had a bit of a spat a while back (on a political thread, of course)...all is good on my end Mission, hope we can forget the past and be friends again (insert olive branch here)...of course I know very little about the NFL, but this is "internet gold" as previously mentioned...that and Mission deserves a raise for doing this, I "move" for a $5 increase in entry fee that goes directly to Mission, do I hear a "second"...way too much unpaid time on his part to run this thing every year!!
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August 13th, 2019 at 12:55:39 PM permalink
Quote: Paradigm

I may re-join this year if Mission will have me...we had a bit of a spat a while back (on a political thread, of course)...all is good on my end Mission, hope we can forget the past and be friends again (insert olive branch here)...of course I know very little about the NFL, but this is "internet gold" as previously mentioned...that and Mission deserves a raise for doing this, I "move" for a $5 increase in entry fee that goes directly to Mission, do I hear a "second"...way too much unpaid time on his part to run this thing every year!!



Did we have a spat? If we did, then let me apologize if I said anything offensive to you or about you. I'm actually pretty sure I did, but don't specifically recall what it was and nor do I care to look.

In any case, I would love to have you participate in this game again!

In any event, I adamantly refuse any payment of any kind for running this game. Honestly, I really enjoy doing it when nobody is telling me all of the reasons why the way I like to run it (keeping all operations strictly on WoV) sucks. That's also not a dig at anybody who may have done that, they are more than welcome to play the game again, as well. I guess my point is just that there is no reason to bring up using a third-party website for anything again because the fundamentals of the way this game is run are not going to change as long as I am the one running it.
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August 13th, 2019 at 1:35:35 PM permalink
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Did we have a spat? If we did, then let me apologize if I said anything offensive to you or about you. I'm actually pretty sure I did, but don't specifically recall what it was and nor do I care to look.

In any case, I would love to have you participate in this game again!

In any event, I adamantly refuse any payment of any kind for running this game. Honestly, I really enjoy doing it when nobody is telling me all of the reasons why the way I like to run it (keeping all operations strictly on WoV) sucks. That's also not a dig at anybody who may have done that, they are more than welcome to play the game again, as well. I guess my point is just that there is no reason to bring up using a third-party website for anything again because the fundamentals of the way this game is run are not going to change as long as I am the one running it.



I move that Mission pay each participant $5 for allowing him to moderate this contest. I might actually play if that is the case.
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August 13th, 2019 at 3:13:22 PM permalink
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I move that Mission pay each participant $5 for allowing him to moderate this contest. I might actually play if that is the case.

Well technically speaking it has been POSITIVE EV most years thanks to M146's generous extra contributions, right ?
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August 13th, 2019 at 3:18:32 PM permalink
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Well technically speaking it has been POSITIVE EV most years thanks to M146's generous extra contributions, right ?

probably not, unless you are willing to shop the stale lines.
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August 13th, 2019 at 5:31:53 PM permalink
Me coming in 2nd last year and now killing it in baseball. Maybe I have a new favorite past time.
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August 14th, 2019 at 2:26:09 AM permalink
Count me in for the picks game this year, looking forward to it!
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August 14th, 2019 at 9:58:58 AM permalink
I'm back on this thread now too. I'm interested again. Please send me a DM.

Thanks!
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August 14th, 2019 at 10:41:23 AM permalink
I plan on playing. Was fun last year.
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August 14th, 2019 at 11:41:38 AM permalink
I am in this year.

And happy not to be inheriting Nathan’s 0-5 week 1 and skip week in week 2.
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August 16th, 2019 at 9:28:45 AM permalink
Count me in as well.
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August 16th, 2019 at 2:10:02 PM permalink
I'm in and planning on adding seed. Details to follow, conditions will be early entry and the other a very late entry. Thinking for the early entry prize, you'll have to send your picks in Friday by 4pm EST and the late entry will require it to be sent in the last 5 minutes.

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August 17th, 2019 at 1:02:18 PM permalink
Count me in. Already shooting for Mr. Mediocre......
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August 22nd, 2019 at 1:36:07 PM permalink
I'm in again this year. Too much fun to miss!
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August 22nd, 2019 at 2:48:17 PM permalink
I am in again this year as well. Last year I won the $25 Cleveland Browns award (don't ask!!!) so I believe I'm prepaid for this year if its still $25.
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August 22nd, 2019 at 2:48:52 PM permalink
Haven't heard from mission if he is going to run it. Kinda got get it going like today as the season is pretty close.
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August 22nd, 2019 at 2:52:49 PM permalink
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Haven't heard from mission if he is going to run it. Kinda got get it going like today as the season is pretty close.



Mission said the other day that he is going to run it as long as people are good with him running it his way rather than signing up on some kind of website. Haven't seen any objections to him doing that, so I expect he will be running it.

I'm thinking about offering some non- cash prizes, myself. I have some fun items I'd like to place in good homes.
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August 22nd, 2019 at 6:23:00 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Mission said the other day that he is going to run it as long as people are good with him running it his way rather than signing up on some kind of website. Haven't seen any objections to him doing that, so I expect he will be running it.

I'm thinking about offering some non- cash prizes, myself. I have some fun items I'd like to place in good homes.

how could you possibly know it would be going to a good home?

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August 23rd, 2019 at 6:29:29 AM permalink
I would like to lose some more money to you guys again this year. I would very much prefer the game being run Mission's way.
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August 23rd, 2019 at 7:25:37 AM permalink
I'm (back) in. I'll try to make it more than a couple weeks this time before I just totally fail to participate.
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August 23rd, 2019 at 10:39:48 AM permalink
I've stalled long enough. I'm winning it this year.
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August 23rd, 2019 at 10:50:53 AM permalink
We're all obviously familiar with the Mission runs the game and we'll just all sign up for the following rule
"No complaining or criticism (constructive or otherwise) about the way that the NFL Picks game is run."

I'll start a list of people who have indicated they are interested in the 2019 WOV NFL PIcks Game. To add your name to the list, copy and paste it into your post and add your name.

1. terapined
2. Ayecarumba
3. Paradigm
4. Bruce 1
5. mwalz9
6. unJon
7. michael9900
8. JohnnyQ
9. Onenicklemiracle
10. SOOPOO
11. GenWyzgy
12. prozema
13. Gordonm888
14. rdw4potus
15. miplet
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August 23rd, 2019 at 12:27:31 PM permalink
I am in, on phone dont feel like copying and pasting at the moment.
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August 23rd, 2019 at 3:36:19 PM permalink
Also in..and BBB has my $25
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August 23rd, 2019 at 4:05:08 PM permalink
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Also in..and BBB has my $25

Sorry but there is a $4.99 a month maintenance fee.
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August 23rd, 2019 at 5:51:57 PM permalink
Update
I'll start a list of people who have indicated they are interested in the 2019 WOV NFL PIcks Game. To add your name to the list, copy and paste it into your post and add your name.

1. terapined
2. Ayecarumba
3. Paradigm
4. Bruce 1
5. mwalz9
6. unJon
7. michael9900
8. JohnnyQ
9. Onenicklemiracle
10. SOOPOO
11. GenWyzgy
12. prozema
13. Gordonm888
14. rdw4potus
15. miplet
16. GWAE
17. Johnzimbo

Axel, BBB can we assume you're in the game? Mission?
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August 23rd, 2019 at 6:36:57 PM permalink
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Sorry but there is a $4.99 a month maintenance fee.



I think BBB agreed to pay that :)
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August 23rd, 2019 at 6:40:27 PM permalink
has anyone heard from Ed, I think mission relies on his setup for the grading
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August 23rd, 2019 at 8:32:18 PM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

Update
I'll start a list of people who have indicated they are interested in the 2019 WOV NFL PIcks Game. To add your name to the list, copy and paste it into your post and add your name.

1. terapined
2. Ayecarumba
3. Paradigm
4. Bruce 1
5. mwalz9
6. unJon
7. michael9900
8. JohnnyQ
9. Onenicklemiracle
10. SOOPOO
11. GenWyzgy
12. prozema
13. Gordonm888
14. rdw4potus
15. miplet
16. GWAE
17. Johnzimbo

Axel, BBB can we assume you're in the game? Mission?

That would be a hard pass, I have enough things to worry about, no need to add in extra, getting picks in on time and in the correct format. I'm just here to troll show support to everyone.
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August 23rd, 2019 at 9:08:28 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

That would be a hard pass, I have enough things to worry about, no need to add in extra, getting picks in on time and in the correct format. I'm just here to troll show support to everyone.



I had the under on 3 weeks before you screwed up. Does this qualify as a win?
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August 28th, 2019 at 6:31:51 AM permalink
You can add my name to the list. I finished in next to last place in the 2018 pool, so I see room for improvement.
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August 28th, 2019 at 10:03:23 AM permalink
Its beginning to look as if there will be no NFL Picks contest this year. There's been no action to organize or to declare the contest nor any action to collect money. Perhaps either Mission or BB or Wiz could officially clarify the status of the contest?

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August 28th, 2019 at 11:13:38 AM permalink
I'm surprised some of these football players are saying they've had the same helmet for multiple seasons. If Pete Rose played football, he'd have switched helmets every time he came off the field and sell it on ebay. The day he broke Ty Cobbs hit record, he switched jerseys nine times and sold each of them as being game worn in the historic game.
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August 28th, 2019 at 11:18:06 AM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

Its beginning to look as if there will be no NFL Picks contest this year. There's been no action to organize or to declare the contest nor any action to collect money. Perhaps either Mission or BB or Wiz could officially clarify the status of the contest?

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Thursday night games I believe are not eligible for picks, so there is still 12 days to get this going.
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August 28th, 2019 at 11:23:55 AM permalink
he hasnt been on the site in a week now. Hopefully he is coming to start. I was thinking about starting a signup thread but with only 12 days I am not sure I can start from scratch at this point.
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August 28th, 2019 at 11:41:25 AM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

Its beginning to look as if there will be no NFL Picks contest this year. There's been no action to organize or to declare the contest nor any action to collect money. Perhaps either Mission or BB or Wiz could officially clarify the status of the contest?

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If this gets rolling, please add me.

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