2018 WoV Picks game (discussion thread)
Quote: Mission146TroopScott specified Rams Over, but it’s late because the game has started.
Does anyone have any objections to just giving him a loss for that one pick automatically since this would give him an 0-5 week otherwise? If there are more than zero objections, it’ll be 0-5 per the rules as TroopScott has already used his Skip Week.
This would make TroopScott 1-2 with both of his other Picks relevant to tomorrow night’s game if we don’t give him the automatic 0-5.
I don't object, but I think we should support your decision whichever it is, rather than open it to objections.
Quote: Mission146TroopScott specified Rams Over, but it’s late because the game has started.
Does anyone have any objections to just giving him a loss for that one pick automatically since this would give him an 0-5 week otherwise? If there are more than zero objections, it’ll be 0-5 per the rules as TroopScott has already used his Skip Week.
This would make TroopScott 1-2 with both of his other Picks relevant to tomorrow night’s game if we don’t give him the automatic 0-5.
I think it's reasonable to only make the non-valid pick a loss and leave the other picks stand.
Quote: FleaStiffIs there a way to develop a prize for those whose overall standing may not be high at all but who did very well on weeks others were all near 0-5. These 'Crowd Contrarians' might have really good skills.
Sure. You take part of the buyin and divide it by 17. Then have a weekly prize of that amount for anyone that goes 5-0 or 6-0. Those that do good on down weeks are less likely to split it. And in weeks where no one wins it rolls into the next week like the lotto.
Quote: unJonSure. You take part of the buyin and divide it by 17. Then have a weekly prize of that amount for anyone that goes 5-0 or 6-0. Those that do good on down weeks are less likely to split it. And in weeks where no one wins it rolls into the next week like the lotto.
We will create an optional $10 add to the Entry Fee next year with all who contribute the $10 qualifying for the, “Perfect Week Prize.”
If there is no Perfect Week in Week 17 and any weeks leading up to Week 17, if applicable, the Perfect Week Prize for Week 17 will go to whoever has the best overall record out of everyone who contributed to the Perfect Week Prize.
For the purposes of simplicity, all Perfect Week Prize winners will be tracked, added and not paid until the conclusion of the season.
I agree with everything else about it that you said. This is an excellent idea you guys came up with and an even better reason to play every week than my consolation prizes are. We will, however, also continue to have consolation prizes.
JW17... where did you get your lines?Quote: Mission146Greetings!
The Week 8 Picks are as follows:
JW17:
Broncos +9.5 confidence
Jaguars +3.5
Jets +9.5
Bills +14
Packers +8
The Broncos are underdogs by 10, not 9.5
The Jags are underdogs by 3, not 3.5
The Jets are underdogs by 7.5, not 9.5
The Packers are underdogs by 9.5, not 8
It was 100% the right play for him to take a knee on that play, and not score.Quote: AyecarumbaTodd Gurley must have had money on the under. He could have punched it in for the over, but took a knee to lock in the under. Sigh
Quote: EdCollinsJW17... where did you get your lines?
The Broncos are underdogs by 10, not 9.5
The Jags are underdogs by 3, not 3.5
The Jets are underdogs by 7.5, not 9.5
The Packers are underdogs by 9.5, not 8
Those lines all moved after Mission posted. Probably he posted the current line when he made pics by mistake.
Gee thanks. It was just a whimsical notion after I notice d that some players seemed tohave perfect or near perfect weeks when everyone else wa s surely crying in their beer.Quote: Mission146
This is an excellent idea you guys came up with and an even better reason to play every week than my consolation prizes are. We will, however, also continue to have consolation prizes.
Quote: FleaStiffGee thanks. It was just a whimsical notion after I notice d that some players seemed tohave perfect or near perfect weeks when everyone else wa s surely crying in their beer.
Whimsical, hell. Let me be the first to belatedly congratulate you for a perfect week in week 7. Nice job!
You would have sucked this year anyways. That is a fact.Quote: Mission146I don't want to play, though. I never wanted to play this year for the same reason that I automatically went with Default Picks. I don't want to play next year because I want to be able to look at the PM Picks to make sure that they are correct so I can let people know if they are not.
Nobody has bothered me via PM and everybody except for me wants me to play, but I do not want to play anymore. I want to forfeit, I want my $25 to go into the prize pool and I want my record for this season cancelled. As Commissioner, I approve of my own action and hereby authorize myself to forfeit.
If that is not acceptable, I hereby cancel and reject my Default Strategy and will simply not submit any Picks. This will cause me to automatically lose anyway.
*I am not even kidding.
Keep me in your thoughts and prayers.
Fun fact: I think I am like 0-3 on Thursday night games on half points. Cheating ass books
Quote: djatcI should've been 5-1. I put over instead of under in the jags game. I spent all of Saturday from when I woke up to when I ended the day betting sports, and the last thing I did is the picks here. I had o41.5 on one half point card and u42.5 on another. Luckily they both hit. Because of that i got confused :(
Keep me in your thoughts and prayers.
Fun fact: I think I am like 0-3 on Thursday night games on half points. Cheating ass books
Thursday games are all a setup. The books get you to lose then you try to get your money back.
Quote: GWAEThursday games are all a setup. The books get you to lose then you try to get your money back.
The favorite has won and covered in 6 of the 7 Thursday games. And the only dog that won was Cinci who was just +1
If they are trying to make people lose these games they’re doing a bad job of it
Mission146 (2-3)
Patriots -14 (win)
Patriots OVER 44 (loss)
Steelers -8 (win)
Browns UNDER 49 (loss)
Vikings PK (loss)
Joeman (3-3)
Jaguars UNDER 43 (win)
Jaguars +3 (loss)
Bengals UNDER 54.5 (loss)
Colts -3 Confidence (win)
Chiefs -10 (loss)
Michael99000 (3-3)
Eagles UNDER 43 (win)
Browns UNDER 49 (loss)
Broncos UNDER 53.5 (win)
Jets OVER 45 Confidence (loss)
Seahawks UNDER 49 (win)
RisingDough (4-2)
Browns +8 (loss)
Broncos +10 Confidence (win)
Seahawks +3 (win)
Panthers +2.5 (win)
Vikings pk (loss)
IndyJeffrey (4-2)
Eagles -3 Confidence (win)
Redskins PK (win)
Lions -3 (loss)
Raiders +3 (loss)
Patriots UNDER (win)
GWAE (3-2)
Jets (+7.5) (loss)
Seahawks (+3) (win)
Bengals (-4) (loss)
Colts (-3) (win)
Packers (+9.5) (win)
Terapined (2-3)
Giants PK (loss)
Bucs +4 (win)
Ravens -2.5 (loss)
Bills +14 (loss)
Packers +9.5 (win)
Fleastiff (2-3)
eagles -3 (win)
eagles OVER 43 (loss)
redskins OVER 42.5 (loss)
seahawks +3 (win)
bills +14 (loss)
Odiousgambit (3-2)
Redskins (PK) (win)
Packers +9.5 (win)
Packers UNDER 56.5 (win)
Eagles OVER 43 (loss)
Ravens -2.5 (loss)
BeachBumBabs (1-5)
Browns +8 (loss)
Browns UNDER 49 Confidence (loss)
Vikings PK (loss)
Vikings OVER 52 (loss)
Chiefs UNDER 53.5 (win)
PlayYourCardsRight (3-2)
Chiefs -10 (loss)
Bears -7.5 (win)
Redskins PK (win)
Colts -3 (win)
Vikings PK (loss)
EdCollins (5-1)
Redskins pk Confidence (win)
Packers +9.5 (win)
Bills +14 (loss)
Seahawks +3 (win)
Packers UNDER 56.5 (win)
FourFiveFace (3-3)
Chiefs -10 (loss)
Lions -3 Confidence (loss)
Packers +9.5 (win)
Saints PK (win)
Patriots -14 (win)
Gordonm888 (3-2)
Chiefs -10 (loss)
Buccaneers +4 (win)
Ravens -2.5 (loss)
Cardinals +1 (win)
Packers +9.5 (win)
Vegasrider (2-4)
Lions OVER 49 (loss)
Eagles -3 (win)
Bengals -4 (loss)
Colts -3 (win)
Bills +14 Confidence (loss)
JohnnyQ (2-3)
Browns UNDER 49 (loss)
Buccaneers UNDER 54.5 (loss)
Cardinals (+1) (win)
Packers UNDER 56.5 (win)
Vikings (PK) (loss)
TroopScott (1-4)
Steelers (-8) (win)
Rams (-9.5) OVER 56.5 (loss)
Bills (+14) (loss)
Bills OVER 44 (loss)
Ravens UNDER 44 (loss)
unJon (5-1)
Jaguars UNDER 43 Confidence (win)
Bears -7.5 (win)
Bears UNDER 45 (win)
Giants OVER 42.5 (loss)
Cardinals UNDER 41 (win)
Scolist (2-3)
Chiefs OVER 53.5 (loss)
Redskins PK (win)
Rams -9.5 (loss)
Patriots -14 (win)
Patriots OVER 44 (loss)
JW17 (3-3)
Broncos +10 Confidence (win)
Jaguars +3.0 (loss)
Jets +7.5 (loss)
Bills +14 (loss)
Packers +9.5 (win)
Prozema (6-0)
Eagles -3 Confidence (win)
Bears UNDER 45 (win)
Bears -7.5 (win)
Buccaneers +4 (win)
Packers +9.5 (win)
Sparty10k (4-2)
Browns UNDER 49 (loss)
Redskins pick (win)
Seahawks +3 Confidence (win)
Cardinals +1 (win)
49ers OVER 42.5 (loss)
miplet (6-0)
Eagles -3 (win)
Bears -7.5 Confidence (win)
Buccaneers +4 (win)
Packers +9.5 (win)
Saints PK (win)
Onenickelmiracle (3-3)
Jaguars (+3) (loss)
Jaguars OVER 43 (loss)
Broncos OVER 53.5 (loss)
Colts (-3) Confidence (win)
Packers (+9.5) (win)
kuma (3-3)
Jets (UNDER 45) (win)
Giants (PK) Confidence (loss)
Buccaneers (+4) (win)
Cardinals (+1) (win)
Bills (+14) (loss)
Wizard (5-1)
Eagles (-3) Confidence (win)
Broncos (+10) (win)
Buccaneers (+4) (win)
Ravens (-2.5) (loss)
Packers (+9.5) (win)
Ayecarumba (6-0)
Broncos +10 (win)
Colts -3 (win)
Cardinals +1 (win)
Packers UNDER 56.5 (win)
Patriots UNDER 44 Confidence (win)
MidwestAP (2-3)
Bills +14 (loss)
Broncos +10 (win)
Packers +9.5 (win)
Browns +8 (loss)
Jets +7.5 (loss)
MaxPen (2-4)
Jaguars +3 Confidence (loss)
Giants UNDER 42.5 (win)
Cardinals OVER 42.5 (loss)
Vikings UNDER 52 (win)
Bills +14 (loss)
DJATC (4-2)
Eagles -3 (win)
Jaguars OVER 43 (loss)
Bears UNDER 45 Confidence (win)
Cardinals UNDER 42.5 (win)
Vikings OVER 52 (loss)
Bruce1 (4-2)
Eagles OVER 43 (loss)
Jets UNDER 45 (Confidence) (win)
Redskins OVER 42.5 (loss)
Packers (+9.5) (win)
Saints (PK) (win)
SOOPOO (3-3)
Jets + 7.5 Confidence (loss)
Packers +9.5 (win)
Panthers +2.5 (win)
Browns +8 (loss)
Bucs +4 (win)
GenWyzgy (3-2)
Eagles -3 (win)
Steelers UNDER (loss)
Panthers +2.5 (win)
Rams OVER 56.5 (loss)
Seahawks +3 (win)
VCUSkyhawk (3-2)
Patriots -14 (win)
Cardinals +1 (win)
Buccaneers +4 (win)
Giants PK (loss)
Browns +8 (loss)
JohnZimbo (3-2)
Redskins pick (win)
Colts -3 (win)
Jags +3 (loss)
Packers +9.5 (win)
Ravens UNDER 44 (loss)
Rigondeaux (1-4)
Browns +8 (loss)
Jets +7.5 (loss)
Colts -3 (win)
Bills +14 (loss)
Bengals -4 (loss)
Romes (2-3)
Steelers -8 (win)
Chiefs -10 (loss)
Bears -7.5 (win)
Lions -3 (loss)
Bengals -4 (loss)
rainman (0-5)
forfeit (loss)
forfeit (loss)
forfeit (loss)
forfeit (loss)
forfeit (loss)
| Name | Wins | Losses | % |
|---|---|---|---|
| DJatc | 31 | 10 | 75.61% |
| GWAE | 30 | 15 | 66.67% |
| JohnZimbo | 26 | 16 | 61.90% |
| JohnnyQ | 25 | 19 | 56.82% |
| kuma | 26 | 21 | 55.32% |
| RisingDough | 26 | 21 | 55.32% |
| FourFiveFace | 26 | 22 | 54.17% |
| Wizard | 26 | 22 | 54.17% |
| Prozema | 22 | 19 | 53.66% |
| Fleastiff | 21 | 19 | 52.50% |
| Bruce1 | 22 | 20 | 52.38% |
| onenickelmiracle | 24 | 22 | 52.17% |
| GenWyzgy | 21 | 20 | 51.22% |
| Gordonm888 | 21 | 20 | 51.22% |
| IndyJeffrey | 22 | 22 | 50.00% |
| Michael99000 | 20 | 20 | 50.00% |
| Rigondeaux | 20 | 20 | 50.00% |
| EdCollins | 22 | 23 | 48.89% |
| Miplet | 20 | 21 | 48.78% |
| OdiousGambit | 20 | 21 | 48.78% |
| Mission146 | 19 | 20 | 48.72% |
| UnJon | 23 | 25 | 47.92% |
| MaxPen | 18 | 22 | 45.00% |
| MidwestAP | 17 | 22 | 43.59% |
| Terapined | 17 | 22 | 43.59% |
| PlayYourCardsRight | 18 | 24 | 42.86% |
| Romes | 19 | 27 | 41.30% |
| Joeman | 18 | 26 | 40.91% |
| Sparty10k | 19 | 28 | 40.43% |
| JW17 | 18 | 27 | 40.00% |
| BeachBumBabs | 18 | 28 | 39.13% |
| SOOPOO | 18 | 29 | 38.30% |
| Vegasrider | 18 | 30 | 37.50% |
| Ayecarumba | 17 | 30 | 36.17% |
| Troopscott | 13 | 26 | 33.33% |
| VCUSkyhawk | 13 | 26 | 33.33% |
| Scolist | 11 | 23 | 32.35% |
| Rainman | 11 | 26 | 29.73% |
| Totals | 776 | 854 | 47.61% |
Record of Skip Weeks:
DJatc - Week 5
MaxPen - Week 6
Michael99000 - Week 1
Miplet - Week 6
rainman - Week 5, 7, 8
scolist - Week 1
TroopScott - Week 3
VCUSkyhawk - Week 4
Per the rules, since this was rainman's third Skip Week he must accept an 0-5 result and is no longer eligible for the Consolation Prizes. (I suspect that after another Skip Week I can remove him from the rankings and standings entirely.)
OBVIOUSLY, IT'S ALL COMPLETE DUMB LUCK.
DJ is in complete control of his own destiny. DJ doesn't make mistakes and will probably finish perfect from here on. DJ is so good, he can drink, do drugs and stay up over 24 hours, sleep just 5 minutes and get his picks in with 30 seconds to spare. DJ is the pick King, all but over.Quote: AxelWolf2nd place = GWAE 30 15 66.67%
OBVIOUSLY, IT'S ALL COMPLETE DUMB LUCK.
Quote: AxelWolf2nd place = GWAE 30 15 66.67%
OBVIOUSLY, IT'S ALL COMPLETE DUMB LUCK.
Obviously. First 4 weeks I was using things like rubiks cube and quarters to pick the games. Last few weeks I haven't had time to do that so I have been just picking random games and random sides. No thought going into it at all. Should have been 4-1 this week if cincy didnt f it up.
The line was something you snorted.
The spread was what guys in LV put on their sandwich.
Hedging was something Mexicans did in your yard.
The dog was a bounty hunter from his home state.
The middle was the guy in the middle.
over/under was the other two guys not in the middle.
He is going to get this in his sleep. He should show off, get good sleep, then put picks in last minute.Quote: AxelWolfAbout 4 years ago djatc thought:
The line was something you snorted.
The spread was what guys in LV put on their sandwich.
Hedging was something Mexicans did in your yard.
The dog was a bounty hunter from his home state.
The middle was the guy in the middle.
over/under was the other two guys not in the middle.
Quote: onenickelmiracleDJ is in complete control of his own destiny. DJ doesn't make mistakes and will probably finish perfect from here on. DJ is so good, he can drink, do drugs and stay up over 24 hours, sleep just 5 minutes and get his picks in with 30 seconds to spare. DJ is the pick King, all but over.
This is more true than you realize. He probably spends less time on these picks, as such, than GWAE does.
Quote: onenickelmiracleGun to my head, I'd have to say the Rams have to be the favorite, even as a road team against the saints.Was going to go with the current line, but couldn't. Rams are the best team in America.
I have $25 on escrow with BBB that's says they don't go undefeated any takers ?
He paid Mission off.Quote: RigondeauxThis is more true than you realize. He probably spends less time on these picks, as such, than GWAE does.
Quote: troopscottI have $25 on escrow with BBB that's says they don't go undefeated any takers ?
Brah...you donated that $25 3 weeks ago to fund Keeneone's follow-on buy-in to Wiz's NFL picks...
I'd guess you have another $25 in your pocket to stake, but that escrow is spent.
doesn't everybody?Quote: onenickelmiraclehe can drink, do drugs and stay up over 24 hours,
Here's a challenge: come up with a meaning for DJATC. Like:
Damn, Just A Tad Cursed
or
Dog-humper, Just Atop The Contest
Quote: gordonm888I usually avoid over-under bets because the point total has so much volatility (unpredictable variance) in it.
Is that true? I started another thread about it yesterday or the day before. My gut was that variance of total around over/under would be the same as variance around final score spread around the Vegas line.
Quote: gordonm888I usually avoid over-under bets because the point total has so much volatility (unpredictable variance) in it. But DJATC has been playing those over-under lines like they are strings in a harp.
Here's a challenge: come up with a meaning for DJATC. Like:
Damn, Just A Tad Cursed
or
Dog-humper, Just Atop The Contest
I thought this was a good link
https://www.atcwicca.org/
There is some kind of witchcraft going on with his picks.
I always figured he got his name because he spun the tunes for all those dope air traffic controller parties. :) But now you got me thinking... Dances a Jig After They Cover?Quote: gordonm888I usually avoid over-under bets because the point total has so much volatility (unpredictable variance) in it. But DJATC has been playing those over-under lines like they are strings in a harp.
Here's a challenge: come up with a meaning for DJATC.
I'm stroking his ego so he'll mess up.im hypnotizing him too, so it will still work if he sees this.Quote: FleaStiffdoesn't everybody?
drop your phone in the toilet drop your phone in the toilet drop your phone in the toilet leave your computer at Starbucks leave your computer at Starbucks leave your computer at Starbucks make me a frittata make me a frittata make me a frittata do you have fat fingers always pressing the wrong thing you have fat fingers always pressing the wrong thing don't double check don't double check don't double check just send it just send it just send itQuote: RigondeauxThis is more true than you realize. He probably spends less time on these picks, as such, than GWAE does.
Quote: unJonIs that true? I started another thread about it yesterday or the day before. My gut was that variance of total around over/under would be the same as variance around final score spread around the Vegas line.
PM me the link to your thread, I'd like to read it.
Stating the obvious:
1. Coaching strategies are unknowable and matter- playing fast or slow, amount of running plays, etc.
2. When it happens, OT blows up your analysis
3. The last 2-4 minutes of a game have crazy situational dynamics and swings.
4. Points scored during garbage time of a blowout (also substitutions in a blowout)
5. Possible range of Total Points is much larger than "Margin of Victory" and seemingly very large swings in Total Points can occur
Quote: gordonm888PM me the link to your thread, I'd like to read it.
Stating the obvious:
1. Coaching strategies are unknowable and matter- playing fast or slow, amount of running plays, etc.
2. When it happens, OT blows up your analysis
3. The last 2-4 minutes of a game have crazy situational dynamics and swings.
4. Points scored during garbage time of a blowout (also substitutions in a blowout)
5. Possible range of Total Points is much larger than "Margin of Victory" and seemingly very large swings in Total Points can occur
1. Saints/Vikings game. Last play for the Saints I think they ran some stupid trick play with a backup QB and they got out of FG range which totally screwed up my over since the total was 50. They didn't need the FG as they were up by 10 or something so that sucked.
2. Week 1 Browns/Steelers game went into OT and I had the under with 2 points left to spare. As a FG or TD would win the game I thought I was screwed, but they tied which is a crazy way to win an under bet.
3, Can't remember specifics but I'm sure I've been screwed and saved by last minute drives
4. Browns/Steelers rematch totally screwed me over on the u50.5. Browns got a TD on their last play which was meaningless. Can't remember if I had it on the picks, but I had it on my half points.
5. What messes up the total is weird scoring amounts. Like a team that has a safety, or a missed extra point can change the dynamic of what the other team will do to catch up or create a lead. 2 pt conversions, failed or successful, make it weird too.
Quote: DRichDoes DJ have default picks set up in case he doesn't submit them? If not, I may bet against him and have him eliminated so that I win my $50.
PM Confidentiality Rule unless there is no other choice but to reveal that information. That's why, when someone has default picks and fails to submit his/her picks, I just put the picks in there as if they had been submitted.
The one thing that I will reveal is that DJATC intentionally skipped the week he missed, so even if he had default picks in place, it wouldn't have applied.
How the hell are you going to start your sports touting service career with comments like this? You need a good manager and publicist in order to capitalize on this.Quote: djatcI think I spend about 10-15 min per week on picks. I'll time it this week and see how long it is.
The Week 9 Lines are as follows:
Lions (+5) @ Vikings (-5) O/U 49
Chiefs (-8.5) @ Browns (+8.5) O/U 51
Steelers (+3) @ Ravens (-3) O/U 47.5
Buccaneers (+6.5) @ Panthers (-6.5) O/U 55
Jets (+3) @ Dolphins (-3) O/U 43.5
Falcons (+1.5) @ Redskins (-1.5) O/U 48
Bears (-10) @ Bills (+10) O/U 37.5
Texans (+1) @ Broncos (-1) O/U 46
Chargers (+1) @ Seahawks (-1) O/U 48
Rams (-1) @ Saints (+1) O/U 59.5
Packers (+5.5) @ Patriots (-5.5) O/U 56.5
Titans (+5.5) @ Cowboys (-5.5) O/U 40.5
