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October 21st, 2018 at 2:05:12 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

I agree with you 100% on all of those points, though maybe not as emphatically.

Keep in mind that screenshots would prove that picks were sent when both myself and the player in question (if any) are saying that they were sent, so ultimately, I don't think that there's any real argument that everyone's Picks being posted late should disqualify the entire week, or anything. Beyond that, there is something of a human element to the thing.

Anyway, if a player's set of Picks were ever challenged, they are provable. I keep all game-related PM's for a few weeks after the conclusion of the season, at a minimum.

That's why I kind of understand why you advocated for CBS Sports as a hosting place. The reason why I didn't like that is that I put together the game to benefit WoV Forum though, not CBS Sports, so if the human element ends up at play a little bit, it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make.

Although, another good rule suggestion for next year is maybe having to PM the Picks to two different people? It only takes five seconds to send a forward once you get used to doing it, I should know!



Understood all and didn’t mean to come across as too emphatic. I didn’t advocate to void the one week when Picks were posted after kickoff. Totally get it and life happens, etc. I more meant that if Picks were never meant to be posted until well into a game, then I just would have not have played.
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October 21st, 2018 at 2:08:01 PM permalink
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You'd be better off so far if you had picked them.
Yikes, bruh.

I’d love to crow about this but then I’d have to eat it, as I’m doing even worse than him!
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October 21st, 2018 at 2:31:47 PM permalink
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6 injured, 3 critically, during the game, at a laundromat in the neighborhood. No suspect yet - it was a drive-by. After-game traffic being steered away from the crime site.

Okay then, Thanks. It can not possibly have affected the teams or even the fans, so no effect on the score.
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October 21st, 2018 at 2:43:11 PM permalink
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You'd be better off so far if you had picked them.
Yikes, bruh.



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October 21st, 2018 at 8:02:37 PM permalink
lol at dj 0-5 after bets come in. Did someone pay him off?
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October 21st, 2018 at 9:10:03 PM permalink
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lol at dj 0-5 after bets come in. Did someone pay him off?



Anyone have updated odds on the Field ?
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October 22nd, 2018 at 6:12:09 AM permalink
Mission's Monday Vitriol Takes

(All Games in Fifty, or Fewer, Words)

I don't care if there was a Thursday game, I'm listing this one first:

Patriots 38 @ Bears 31: Behold ye sinners who dare to question the majesty of our one true Lord and Savior, Tom Brady, and blaspheme him by suggesting he needs the disciple known as, "Gronk," to perform his wondrous miracles! Walk with your Lord, forever and ever, Amen.

Broncos 45 @ Cardinals 10: THIS is what you are supposed to do to the Arizona Cardinals. Maybe Josh Rosen can back up Johnny Manziel on the Montreal Alouettes here in a few years.

Titans 19 @ Chargers 20: F Dean Spanos. The good news about this win was that the game was in London, so the, "Home," team probably had more of its fans turn out than if the game had been at StubHub Center.

Panthers 21 @ Eagles 17: Here's a riddle: Who eats horse manure and will not be attending an NFL Playoff Game this postseason? Give up? An Eagles fan! #SaltyPatriotsFanIsSalty

Vikings 37 @ Jets 17: Question: Worse Quarterback-Sam Darnold or Josh Rosen? Answer: Yes.

Bills 5 @ Colts 37: The Bills have reanimated the corpse of Derek Anderson's career and trotted him out there in his quest to achieve a sub-70 career QB RATE. He's close. Just one or two more starts should do it. Wait. I just got a text. The Bills are starting me Monday, instead.

Browns 23 @ Buccaneers 26: It's a shame because the Browns have such a good defense, Jameis Winston is so awful and the Dog Pound still lost in what should be Baker Mayfield's best game this year.

Texans 20 @ Jaguars 7: Jalen Ramsey: "It ain't no secret what's going on right now." A complete and total collapse. The Jaguars are reportedly in talks with the Bills to acquire Derek Anderson. What's that Paula Cole song? Where Have All the QB's Gone? #ComeBackRomo #Cutler4Life #ImWithColin #BledsoesStillGotIt

Lions 32 @ Dolphins 21: Brock Osweiler played well again, let's do the time warp. Great football, long drives, almost no major mistakes. You honestly couldn't look better in an 11 point loss than the Dolphins did here, one turnover could have changed the game.

Saints 24 @ Ravens 23: They abducted Drew Brees five years ago and replaced him with a cyborg. They pull back the cyborg's hairline a little bit every year so nobody gets suspicious. Great game, rock solid effort by both teams.

Cowboys 17 @ Redskins 20: Huge Division implications in this one for both teams and Philly. Alex Smith didn't do much, but he did what Alex Smith usually does: Enough. Tough defensive struggle.

Rams 39 @ 49ers 10: Yup.

Bengals 10 @ Chiefs 45: They WERE your AFC North Division Leaders, and then this happened. Pittsburgh (for about a decade), Kansas City, Denver, the Manning Colts...it seems like the Patriots are the only kryptonite effective against Super Teams.

AND BECAUSE MY MONDAY NIGHT PREDICTIONS ARE ALWAYS DEAD WRONG, I'M FADING MYSELF:

Giants @ Falcons: We're going to see a renewed Eli Manning in this one as he connects with Odell Beckham for two touchdown strikes and Saquon Barkley punches in another pair. The Giants will DOMINATE and win running away against a weak Atlanta Defense. (I do not believe this at all)
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October 22nd, 2018 at 8:20:49 AM permalink
Quote: GWAE

lol at dj 0-5 after bets come in. Did someone pay him off?

No, he decided to start betting real money on his picks.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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October 22nd, 2018 at 8:44:23 AM permalink
Vegas got KILLED this week on NFL bets, according to this:

https://www.google.com/amp/www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/25052538/gambling-recap-public-bettors-win-big-vikings-patriots-chiefs-rams-bettor-makes-100000-bet-dodgers-win-world-series%3fplatform=amp

That would explain both my 5-1 and dj's disaster this week, I think. Lols all around.

Hope you real-money LV guys made a bundle this weekend.
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October 22nd, 2018 at 9:41:14 AM permalink
Comments stimulated by Mission's Monday Vitriol

First of all, best Vitriol so far! It got me laughing several times. Writing is hard, but this was very well-written. Good job, Mission.

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Patriots 38 @ Bears 31: Behold ye sinners who dare to question the majesty of our one true Lord and Savior, Tom Brady, and blaspheme him by suggesting he needs the disciple known as, "Gronk," to perform his wondrous miracles! Walk with your Lord, forever and ever, Amen.

Yes he did without "Gronk" but he did need a disciple named "Gordon." I found great significance in that.

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Panthers 21 @ Eagles 17: Here's a riddle: Who eats horse manure and will not be attending an NFL Playoff Game this postseason? Give up? An Eagles fan! #SaltyPatriotsFanIsSalty

LOL, really? Amongst the Giants, Redskins and Cowgirls does anyone have a better defensive line than the Eagles? A better offensive line line than the Eagles? A better QB? Exactly how do the Eagles not win the NFC East?

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Vikings 37 @ Jets 17: Question: Worse Quarterback-Sam Darnold or Josh Rosen? Answer: Yes.

I haven't seen Rosen play, but Darnold reminds me of how Peyton Manning played in his first year when he went 1-15 with a terrible team. Not claiming Darnold is guaranteed to turn into an elite quarterback, but he does have intelligence, poise, toughness and some physical skills. He ranks somewhere between Mahomes and Nate Peterman, but we don't know where.

Bills 5 @ Colts 37: It is amazing to me how many contestants picked the Bills, some with confidence picks. I picked the Colts and I thought it was one of the most obvious picks of the week. I must be reading different internet sites than the rest of you.

Texans 20 @ Jaguars 7: The wheels have come off the Blake Bortles express. What is hard to explain is why he has occasionally played so well in the recent past. And why CJ Bethard/ Ryan Fitzpatrick/ Brock Osweiler occasionally play so well. Is it bad coaching by the opposition? Drugs? Rapture caused by reading Mission146's vitriol? Science cannot yet explain.

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Bengals 10 @ Chiefs 45: They WERE your AFC North Division Leaders, and then this happened. Pittsburgh (for about a decade), Kansas City, Denver, the Manning Colts...it seems like the Patriots are the only kryptonite effective against Super Teams.

Because Bill Belichick cheats better than anyone. And he hires guys that sneak into the Men's bathroom and deflate Tom Brady's balls. And he hires guys like Aaron Hernandez. This is a morality play. If Mahomes and Hill stay healthy, then saintly Andy Reid and the exciting Chiefs will go further in the playoffs than the syphilis-ravaged Belichick and his evil Pats .
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October 22nd, 2018 at 11:01:14 AM permalink
Quote: GWAE

lol at dj 0-5 after bets come in. Did someone pay him off?

The problem is he probably had a few picks others had as well, I noticed I had two that matched his, others did as well. I might and others might have to go completely random to beat him.
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October 22nd, 2018 at 11:40:51 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Vegas got KILLED this week on NFL bets, according to this:

https://www.google.com/amp/www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/25052538/gambling-recap-public-bettors-win-big-vikings-patriots-chiefs-rams-bettor-makes-100000-bet-dodgers-win-world-series%3fplatform=amp

That would explain both my 5-1 and dj's disaster this week, I think. Lols all around.

Hope you real-money LV guys made a bundle this weekend.

Yup. The big money favorites all covered.
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October 22nd, 2018 at 5:26:09 PM permalink
even with all the crazy stuff that happened on Sunday somehow I am still up for NFL this week. Gotta bet them props yo
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October 22nd, 2018 at 8:17:13 PM permalink
Week 7 Results and Current Standings

Mission146 (4-1)
Patriots -3 (win)
Patriots OVER 49 (win)
Buccaneers -3.5 (loss)
Browns UNDER 50.5 (win)
Vikings -3.5 (win)

Rigondeaux (2-3)
Dolphins +3 (loss)
Browns +3.5 (win)
Jets +3.5 (loss)
Colts -7.5 (win)
Bengals +6 (loss)

Bruce1 (2-3)
Patriots (-3) (win)
Browns OVER 50.5 (loss)
Panthers UNDER 45.5 (win)
Ravens (-2.5) (loss)
Falcons (-4.5) (loss)

MaxPen (3-3)
Patriots -3 (win)
Panthers +4.5 (win)
Panthers OVER 45.5 (Confidence) (loss)
Colts -7.5 (win)
Jaguars -4.5 (loss)

MidwestAP (0-6)
Bears +3 (loss)
Browns OVER 50.5 (loss)
Bill's +7.5 Confidence (loss)
Cowboys +1.5 (loss)
49ers +9.5 (loss)

Michael99000 (5-1)
Titans UNDER 45 (win)
Patriots -3 (win)
Browns OVER 50.5 (loss)
Bills UNDER 43 Confidence (win)
Vikings -3.5 (win)

onenickelmiracle (1-5)
bears +3 (loss)
bills +7.5 Confidence (loss)
bengals +6 (loss)
vikings OVER 46 (win)
cowboys OVER 41.5 (loss)

terapined (0-5)
Bucs -3.5 (loss)
Ravens -2.5 (loss)
Cowboys +1.5 (loss)
49ers +9.5 (loss)
Bills +7.5 (loss)

Joeman (3-3)
Patriots -3 (win)
Texans +4.5 (win)
Falcons -4.5 Confidence (loss)
Chargers UNDER 45 (win)
Bills +7.5 (loss)

IndyJeffrey (1-4)
Chargers -6.5 (loss)
Eagles -4.5 (loss)
Colts -7.5 (win)
Jets +3.5 (loss)
49ers +9.5 (loss)

VCUSkyhawk (1-5)
Ravens -2.5 (loss)
Bears +3 Confidence (loss)
Jaguars -4.5 (loss)
Jets +3.5 (loss)
Panthers UNDER 45.5 (win)

JohnnyQ (2-3)
Bears (+3) (loss)
Lions (-3) (win)
Jets (+3.5) (loss)
Saints (+2.5) (win)
Cowboys (+1.5) (loss)

Romes (0-5)
Buccaneers -3.5 (loss)
Eagles -4.5 (loss)
Jaguars -4.5 (loss)
Ravens -2.5 (loss)
Falcons -4.5 (loss)

GWAE (3-3)
Browns (+3.5) (win)
Lions (-3) Confidence (win)
Eagles (-4.5) (loss)
Bills (+7.5) (loss)
Cowboys (+1.5) (loss)

fleastiff (5-0)
Texans +4.5 (win)
Saints +2.5 (win)
Rams -9.5 (win)
Giants +4.5 (win)
Vikings -3.5 (win)

TroopScott (2-4)
Titans (+6.5) (win)
Browns UNDER 50.5 (win)
Bills OVER 43 (Confidence pick) (loss)
Bills + 7.5 (loss)
Bengals OVER 58 (loss)

FourFiveFace (5-1)
Titans +6.5 (win)
Chiefs -6 Confidence (win)
Texans +4.5 (win)
Ravens -2.5 (loss)
Redskins -1.5 (win)

Gordonm888 (3-2)
Titans +6.5 (win)
Colts -7.5 (win)
Jets +3.5 (loss)
Ravens -2.5 (loss)
Rams -9.5 (win)

EdCollins (2-4)
Eagles -4.5 (Confidence) (loss)
Dolphins +3 (loss)
Chiefs -6 (win)
Cowboys +1.5 (loss)
Giants UNDER 54 (win)

BeachBumBabs (5-1)
Lions OVER 46.5 (win)
Lions -3 (win)
Vikings -3.5 Confidence (win)
Saints +2.5 (win)
Saints OVER 49.5 (loss)

Scolist (3-2)
Pats -3 (win)
Dolphins +3 (loss)
Bills +7.5 (loss)
Rams -9.5 (win)
Chiefs -6 (win)

Wizard (1-5)
Bears (+3) Confidence (loss)
Bills (+7.5) (loss)
Texans (+4.5) (win)
Ravens (-2.5) (loss)
Cowboys (+1.5) (loss)

Ayecarumba (1-5)
Titans OVER 45 (loss)
Bears +3 (loss)
Bears UNDER 49 (loss)
49ers +9.5 Confidence (loss)
Rams UNDER 52 (win)

JW17 (4-2)
49ers +9.5 (loss)
Patriots -3 Confidence (win)
Panthers +4.5 (win)
Cowboys 1.5 (loss)
Saints +2.5 (win)

Vegasrider (2-4)
Saints +2.5 (win)
Ravens OVER 49.5 (loss)
Lions -3 (win)
Cowboys +1.5 Confidence (loss)
Falcons OVER 54 (loss)

JohnZimbo (1-5)
Ravens -2.5 Confidence (loss)
Dolphins +3 (loss)
Bills +7.5 (loss)
Cowboys UNDER 41.5 (win)
Falcons OVER 54 (loss)

Sparty10k (2-4)
Bears +3 (loss)
Dolphins +3 (loss)
Saints UNDER 49.5 (win)
Cowboys +1.5 Confidence (loss)
Giants +4.5 (win)

Prozema (1-5)
Bears +3 Confidence (loss)
Browns OVER 50.5 (loss)
Bills +7.5 (loss)
Texans +4.5 (win)
49ers +9.5 (loss)

kuma (1-5)
Titans +6.5 (win)
Bears +3 (loss)
Bills +7.5 Confidence (loss)
Bengals +6 (loss)
Jets +3.5 (loss)

PlayYourCardsRight (1-4)
Chargers -6.5 (loss)
Bears +3 (loss)
Jaguars -4.5 (loss)
Redskins -1.5 (win)
Falcons -4.5 (loss)

DJATC (1-5)
Bears +3 Confidence (loss)
Browns OVER 50.5 (loss)
Bills +7.5 (loss)
Cowboys +1.5 (loss)
Falcons UNDER 54 (win)

miplet (1-5)
Bears +3 Confidence (loss)
Bills +7.5 (loss)
Texans +4.5 (win)
Ravens -2.5 (loss)
Cowboys +1.5 (loss)

RisingDough (1-5)
Bears +3 (loss)
Bills +7.5 Confidence (loss)
Jets +3.5 (loss)
Saints +2.5 (win)
Cowboys +1.5 (loss)

Odiousgambit (1-5)
Bears +3 (loss)
Jaguars -4.5 Confidence (loss)
49ers +9.5 (loss)
Falcons -4.5 (loss)
Vikings -3.5 (win)

unJon (0-6)
Bears +3 (loss)
Bills +7.5 (loss)
Miami +3 Confidence (loss)
Browns OVER 50.5 (loss)
Cowboys +1.5 (loss)

SOOPOO (2-4)
Bills +7.5 (Confidence) (loss)
Saints +2.5 (win)
Falcons -4.5 (loss)
Jets +3.5 (loss)
Patriots -3 (win)

Genwyzgy (1-4)
Chargers -6.5 (loss)
Eagles -4.5 (loss)
Texans +4.5 (win)
Cowboys +1.5 (loss)
Dolphins +3 (loss)

rainman (0-5)
forfeit (loss)
forfeit (loss)
forfeit (loss)
forfeit (loss)
forfeit (loss)

Name Wins Losses %
DJatc 27 8 77.14%
GWAE 27 13 67.50%
JohnZimbo 23 14 62.16%
JohnnyQ 23 16 58.97%
kuma 23 18 56.10%
FourFiveFace 23 19 54.76%
Fleastiff 19 16 54.29%
Rigondeaux 19 16 54.29%
RisingDough 22 19 53.66%
onenickelmiracle 21 19 52.50%
Bruce1 18 18 50.00%
GenWyzgy 18 18 50.00%
Gordonm888 18 18 50.00%
Michael99000 17 17 50.00%
Mission146 17 17 50.00%
Wizard 21 21 50.00%
IndyJeffrey 18 20 47.37%
OdiousGambit 17 19 47.22%
MaxPen 16 18 47.06%
Prozema 16 19 45.71%
MidwestAP 15 19 44.12%
Terapined 15 19 44.12%
EdCollins 17 22 43.59%
UnJon 18 24 42.86%
BeachBumBabs 17 23 42.50%
Romes 17 24 41.46%
PlayYourCardsRight 15 22 40.54%
Miplet 14 21 40.00%
Joeman 15 23 39.47%
JW17 15 24 38.46%
Vegasrider 16 26 38.10%
SOOPOO 15 26 36.59%
Sparty10k 15 26 36.59%
Troopscott 12 22 35.29%
Rainman 11 21 34.38%
Scolist 9 20 31.03%
VCUSkyhawk 10 24 29.41%
Ayecarumba 11 30 26.83%
Totals 660 759 46.51%


Record of Skip Weeks:

DJatc - Week 5
MaxPen - Week 6
Michael99000 - Week 1
Miplet - Week 6
rainman * - Week 5, 7
scolist - Week 1
TroopScott - Week 3
VCUSkyhawk - Week 4


* Per the rules, since this was rainman's second Skip Week, he must accept an 0-5 result and is no longer eligible for the Consolation Prizes.
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October 22nd, 2018 at 8:18:29 PM permalink
If you didn't do very well this week, you are in good company.

Regular Picks: 63-97 (ignoring rainman's 0-5 forfeit)
Confidence Picks: 5-20

26 players had a losing record this week.
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October 22nd, 2018 at 11:04:31 PM permalink
GWAE is our only hope. I'm going completely random here on out, unfortunately that's almost what I've what I've really been doing because I hardly have looked at any of the games, or any other material regarding the NFL.
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October 22nd, 2018 at 11:06:41 PM permalink
Quote: EdCollins

If you didn't do very well this week, you are in good company.

Regular Picks: 63-97 (ignoring rainman's 0-5 forfeit)
Confidence Picks: 5-20

26 players had a losing record this week.



I suspect the consolation prizes and DJATC’s seemingly insurmountable lead are encouraging players to try for splits or losses instead of wins.
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October 22nd, 2018 at 11:09:29 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

I suspect the consolation prizes and DJATC’s seemingly insurmountable lead are encouraging players to try for splits or losses instead of wins.

That's the ticket, yeah that's what I'm doing. Missionbucks are even more worthless than Wizcoins though.
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October 23rd, 2018 at 12:01:22 AM permalink
I really hate betting spreads, and this week showed why. Totals are less stressful to watch. If you bet the under, you're winning until the game ends or it goes over. If you bet the over, you'll be losing until it goes over. None of this well you were winning but now you aren't stuff with spread betting.
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October 23rd, 2018 at 1:09:51 AM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

I suspect the consolation prizes and DJATC’s seemingly insurmountable lead are encouraging players to try for splits or losses instead of wins.

Well, let's not abandon the ship just yet ! We're not even to the half-way point of this game.

Just a bad week overall, it happens. If it were easy to pick winners ATS consistently, wouldn't you have big money in play at a sports book ?

Interesting to see the standings after this week to be so unbalanced, ie, 10 players > 0.500 but 22 players < 0.500, and a few right at 0.500, I don't think it means anything, it is just interesting.

AyeC: Also "interesting" that if you had made the opposite picks every week, you would be 30-11 for 0.732 in 2nd place just a little ways behind DJATC (0.771).
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October 23rd, 2018 at 4:07:22 AM permalink
So I am at a 35% win rate. I do believe if you guys would bet the opposite of my picks each week you would be beating the crwp out of the sports books
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October 23rd, 2018 at 4:41:35 AM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

GWAE is our only hope. I'm going completely random here on out, unfortunately that's almost what I've what I've really been doing because I hardly have looked at any of the games, or any other material regarding the NFL.



All of my picks have been a random guess and they will continue to be.
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October 23rd, 2018 at 6:21:16 AM permalink
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I really hate betting spreads, and this week showed why. Totals are less stressful to watch. If you bet the under, you're winning until the game ends or it goes over. If you bet the over, you'll be losing until it goes over. None of this well you were winning but now you aren't stuff with spread betting.



If someone had over 56.5 in kc vs Cinci they felt like they were winning then they weren’t
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October 23rd, 2018 at 6:29:51 AM permalink
I can't believe Cleveland is an 8 pt. dog at Pittsburgh. That shouldn't stick, makes little sense to me. Is leveon bell coming back this week or what???
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October 23rd, 2018 at 7:09:58 AM permalink
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I can't believe Cleveland is an 8 pt. dog at Pittsburgh. That shouldn't stick, makes little sense to me. Is leveon bell coming back this week or what???

I see someone didn’t memorize Mission’s article . . .
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October 23rd, 2018 at 7:24:55 AM permalink
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I can't believe Cleveland is an 8 pt. dog at Pittsburgh. That shouldn't stick, makes little sense to me. Is leveon bell coming back this week or what???



Week 1 they played in Cleveland , spread was Pit -3

So neutral field would be Pit -6

In Pitts , Pit -9. It’s Pit -8

I don’t think either team has done much since week 1 to drastically change things. Line seems accurate to me
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October 23rd, 2018 at 8:19:22 AM permalink
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Week 1 they played in Cleveland , spread was Pit -3

So neutral field would be Pit -6

In Pitts , Pit -9. It’s Pit -8

I don’t think either team has done much since week 1 to drastically change things. Line seems accurate to me

Makes some sense. I hadn't realized the Browns have lost two in a row, that feels like a winning streak to me.
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October 23rd, 2018 at 9:52:47 AM permalink
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Week 1 they played in Cleveland , spread was Pit -3

So neutral field would be Pit -6

In Pitts , Pit -9. It’s Pit -8

I don’t think either team has done much since week 1 to drastically change things. Line seems accurate to me



I am a nothing when it comes to sports but I think it is actually low. I think -10 is about right.
They are playing at home (where they lost 2 times this year)
Browns are back to being browns.
Pit is coming off of a bye (why do they call it a bye?)
They were -3 when the running situation was unknown. Connor has played well so it is not an unknown anymore.
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October 23rd, 2018 at 11:53:35 AM permalink
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If someone had over 56.5 in kc vs Cinci they felt like they were winning then they weren’t



I didn't watch the game but saw the box score. Chiefs were blowing out the Bengals so there's really no incentive for them to put up scores. The Bengals for some reason couldn't put up more than 10, so there you go.

Bengals weren't gonna go for field goals being that behind, so they would have to score a td or turn it over on downs. Chiefs when they got the ball probably just ran out the clock on running plays.

Sometimes if you need half a point to 2 points the conditions have to be right for it to go over, such as a close game. I think I had giants and the points this week for a bet and they weren't covering unless they went for 2. Luckily the 2 points they needed put them down 3 against the Falcons, so they went for it.
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October 23rd, 2018 at 3:08:56 PM permalink
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...Pit is coming off of a bye (why do they call it a bye?)


I've read that many people believe the term originated from the game of cricket.

A "bye" in cricket is when there a wild pitch (to use a baseball term) and the runner comes in for a score.

So a bye week was when you got to advance in the playoffs without doing anything.

Over the years the term evolved from a playoff term to any time you don't play a week.
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October 23rd, 2018 at 6:20:57 PM permalink
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I've read that many people believe the term originated from the game of cricket.

A "bye" in cricket is when there a wild pitch (to use a baseball term) and the runner comes in for a score.

So a bye week was when you got to advance in the playoffs without doing anything.

Over the years the term evolved from a playoff term to any time you don't play a week.



Interesting origin.
Just never understood why they call an off week a bye. A bye in everything else is like you said, advancing without playing.
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October 23rd, 2018 at 8:37:50 PM permalink
The term "bye" may hearken all the way back to dog racing. In the old days, when setting up a bracket for dog racing the most highly seeded dogs might get to skip the first round of races and advance automatically into the second round. But to make things fair, even the highly seeded dogs were made to run around the track once so as to tire them out as much as the dogs that ran a winning race in the 1st round. I think this mandatory lap was called a "bye," and over time became the basis for the current terms "bye week" and "got a bye in the first round."

Dog racing is almost obsolete now.
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October 23rd, 2018 at 10:15:26 PM permalink
It could be a BUY week. I guarantee it's not a BI week.
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October 24th, 2018 at 12:06:15 AM permalink
I will pay DJATC $2.50 if he chooses Pittsburgh -8 as his confidence pick. $1.25 for every other pick I can buy, as in he plays what I choose.
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October 24th, 2018 at 4:51:32 AM permalink
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I will pay DJATC $2.50 if he chooses Pittsburgh -8 as his confidence pick. $1.25 for every other pick I can buy, as in he plays what I choose.



Dude. You have a bet with me on this. You're gonna pay him to foul this up?
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October 24th, 2018 at 6:22:42 AM permalink
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I will pay DJATC $2.50 if he chooses Pittsburgh -8 as his confidence pick. $1.25 for every other pick I can buy, as in he plays what I choose.



Steelers laying 8 when they usually play to their competition? Whatever you're smoking pass that ish
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October 24th, 2018 at 11:46:09 AM permalink
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Steelers laying 8 when they usually play to their competition? Whatever you're smoking pass that ish

$3.25!
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October 24th, 2018 at 11:47:57 AM permalink
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Dude. You have a bet with me on this. You're gonna pay him to foul this up?

Imma tryine
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October 24th, 2018 at 12:49:23 PM permalink
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The term "bye" may hearken all the way back to dog racing. In the old days, when setting up a bracket for dog racing the most highly seeded dogs might get to skip the first round of races and advance automatically into the second round. But to make things fair, even the highly seeded dogs were made to run around the track once so as to tire them out as much as the dogs that ran a winning race in the 1st round. I think this mandatory lap was called a "bye," and over time became the basis for the current terms "bye week" and "got a bye in the first round."

Dog racing is almost obsolete now.



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October 24th, 2018 at 1:49:21 PM permalink
DJ gonna fock that up, sig not zag, etz.
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October 25th, 2018 at 3:07:21 PM permalink
I guess I’m going to gun for the most average prize now. To make it more interesting I want to add a free roll bounty (if Mission says it is ok to do so). It will be a $50 prize to the person that finishes closest to me in the rankings (above or below me, just closest of win%). I will escrow with Babs upon Mission’s approval.

ETA: Mission’s rules about being ineligible if you fail to submit picks each week (other than skip week) will apply.
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October 25th, 2018 at 4:58:29 PM permalink
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I guess I’m going to gun for the most average prize now. To make it more interesting I want to add a free roll bounty (if Mission says it is ok to do so). It will be a $50 prize to the person that finishes closest to me in the rankings (above or below me, just closest of win%). I will escrow with Babs upon Mission’s approval.

ETA: Mission’s rules about being ineligible if you fail to submit picks each week (other than skip week) will apply.

Sounds good to me. And probably even better to EdC and BBB !


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October 25th, 2018 at 5:21:17 PM permalink
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I guess I’m going to gun for the most average prize now. To make it more interesting I want to add a free roll bounty (if Mission says it is ok to do so). It will be a $50 prize to the person that finishes closest to me in the rankings (above or below me, just closest of win%). I will escrow with Babs upon Mission’s approval.

ETA: Mission’s rules about being ineligible if you fail to submit picks each week (other than skip week) will apply.



Sure thing, you can do any prize you like!
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October 25th, 2018 at 6:19:32 PM permalink
Quote: unJon

I guess I’m going to gun for the most average prize now. To make it more interesting I want to add a free roll bounty (if Mission says it is ok to do so). It will be a $50 prize to the person that finishes closest to me in the rankings (above or below me, just closest of win%). I will escrow with Babs upon Mission’s approval.



Generous. Thanks.

I assume that if two or more people are tied in being closest to you, they will all equally split the $50.00?
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October 25th, 2018 at 7:12:14 PM permalink
I think I am most likely to win that prize. I will surely have an epic collapse here. Especially with my super scientific method of closing my eyes and randomly picking my games.
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October 25th, 2018 at 8:01:11 PM permalink
One second late, the Week 8 Picks are as follows:

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/sports/31481-official-wov-nfl-picks-game-2018-thread/3/#post681148

It was the first time the thing said my time delay was more than one second, so I couldn't really adjust.

Eagles (-3) @ Jaguars (+3) O/U 43
Browns (+8) @ Steelers (-8) O/U 49
Broncos (+10) @ Chiefs (-10) O/U 53.5
Jets (+7.5) @ Bears (-7.5) O/U 45
Redskins (PK) @ Giants (PK) O/U 42.5
Seahawks (+3) @ Lions (-3) O/U 49
Buccaneers (+4) @ Bengals (-4) O/U 54.5
Ravens (-2.5) @ Panthers (+2.5) O/U 44
Colts (-3) @ Raiders (+3) O/U 50.5
49ers (-1) @ Cardinals (+1) O/U 42.5
Packers (+9.5) @ Rams (-9.5) O/U 56.5
Saints (PK) @ Vikings (PK) O/U 52
Patriots (-14) @ Bills (+14) O/U 44
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October 25th, 2018 at 8:06:10 PM permalink
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Generous. Thanks.

I assume that if two or more people are tied in being closest to you, they will all equally split the $50.00?



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October 25th, 2018 at 8:42:34 PM permalink
I'm going Pittsburgh -8 confidence, since dj isnt. Thanks DJ. Anybody catching him, do the same. Half you guys flip a coin, whether you play the game or not. I might do the same.
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October 26th, 2018 at 5:33:46 AM permalink
Quote: unJon

I guess I’m going to gun for the most average prize now. To make it more interesting I want to add a free roll bounty (if Mission says it is ok to do so). It will be a $50 prize to the person that finishes closest to me in the rankings (above or below me, just closest of win%). I will escrow with Babs upon Mission’s approval.

ETA: Mission’s rules about being ineligible if you fail to submit picks each week (other than skip week) will apply.



I have received $50 from unJon in escrow.

Very generous, unJon! Thanks for doing it!
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October 26th, 2018 at 5:42:15 AM permalink
MemberEscrowNotes
Ayecarumba
$25
BeachBumBabs
$25
Bruce1
$25
djatc
$25
EdCollins
$25
fleastiff
$25
FourFiveFace
$25
GenWyzgy
$25
Gordonm888
$25
GWAE
$25
IndyJeffrey
$25
Joeman
$25
JohnnyQ
$25
JohnZimbo
$25
JW17
$25
kuma
$25
MaxPen
$25
MidwestAP
$25
Miplet
$25
Mission146
$25
michael99000
$25
late entry - week 1 bye - buyout of Nathan
OdiousGambit
$25
OneNickelMiracle
$25
PlayYourCardsRight
$25
Prozema
$25
Rainman
$25
Rigondeaux
$25
RisingDough
$25
Romes
$25
scolist
$25
extra $25 in escrow - late entry, week 1 bye
SOOPOO
$25
Sparty10k
$25
Terapined
$25
TroopScott
$25
extra $25 escrow withdrawn
unJon
$25
added $50 closest finish to unJon
VCUSkyhawk
$25
Vegasrider
$25
Wizard
$25


Total 38
Total $950
$75 in addl escrow


This is current to today.
Edited to reflect troopscott w/d of $25 extra (to Coop followon) and unJon adding $50 closest to the unJon pin.
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