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August 12th, 2017 at 4:36:40 PM permalink
Mayweather is also long past his prime, hasn't fought in a long time, seems busier promoting the fight than training for it and is of dubious character. If he wins, he has no more paydays, but if he loses........
I wouldn't touch this with a ten foot pole. I have no idea where I will be on fight night, but I absolutely know what I won't be doing.
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August 12th, 2017 at 11:07:29 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

Not me. I'm saving my money for Brock Lesner vs John Jones. That should be interesting.

That would be the 2nd worst fight in UFC history, behind Forest Griffin and Anderson Silva. The match-up is HORRIBLE. Lesner has a glass chin and jones has length on him to just hit it from a far. The fight would NOT last more than one round unless jones decided not to beat him instantly.

Quote: NokTang

If it's free money, the odds should not matter to you. However, I think the windows are open at -500 up to -650 as we read....and, well, it's not free until after the fight but free is free so step up. Cheers mate.

I have action on the fight... don't worry.

Quote: Johnzimbo

Mayweather is a sure thing....like no safety in the Super Bowl right?

Funny enuogh, I'd put them at 'about' the same line, with perhaps mayweather being a bigger favorite even... but about the same. You're just watching the game going "no safety, no safety..." just like the fight "no knockout, no knockout." Then you win.

Quote: Wizardofnothing

I have 450 in action so far on mcg with soopoo. . Anyone else interested?

Would you give me the same -450 line you're giving SOOPOO for Floyd? What odds are you wanting for mcg?

Quote: lilredrooster

anybody who thinks mcgregor has some kind of halfway decent chance to win is basically disrespecting the sport of boxing...

Eh, I wouldn't go that far. Anyone who respects combat sports and fighting in general MUST respect the ability for anyone to knock anyone out, at any time... Especially at these levels. That being said, I agree that my money is on Floyd.
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August 13th, 2017 at 1:01:24 AM permalink
Quote: Romes

Eh, I wouldn't go that far. Anyone who respects combat sports and fighting in general MUST respect the ability for anyone to knock anyone out, at any time...



another point. mcgregor knocked people out with his feet and hands. now he can't use his feet. and when he knocked people out with his hands his hands were covered with these little ass gloves. now his hands are going to be covered by some big ass boxing gloves. its a world of difference.
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August 13th, 2017 at 2:06:36 AM permalink
What happens if you kick the other boxer? I assume a DQ, at least if it was a good kick....perhaps a penalty if it was a light one?

If McGregor values his life, he'll just kick Mayweather hard enough to get DQ'd 10 seconds into the round 1, but not hard enough to piss him off.
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August 13th, 2017 at 2:35:31 AM permalink
One punch KOs are actually pretty uncommon at the top levels in boxing, especially outside of the HW division.

Marquez got Manny. Marquez is also a HOF boxer and a master tactician who spent months planning. Benard Hopkins got Oscar with a body shot. A middle weight hall of famer, fighting a guy who started out an 84 pounds or something,

Not too many other examples. Most guys at this level are too polished to expose themselves and too tough to be stopped so easily.

Connor doesn't have great power by boxing standards. Only in the kiddy pool.

Plus, MMA is still a young sport. While it is eclipsing boxing in many countries today, 10-15 years ago they were still fighting for relative chump change. Guys like Jones dominate on athleticism because the athleticism still isn't as good as established, global sports. It will be eventually (well, maybe not, because as the sport is truly breaking, we are learning too much about concussions), but it isn't yet.

Anywho, Connor ain't knocking anybody out. The idea that he could KO even someone a notch or 2 lower, say Jeff Horn (the guy who Manny just got robbed against) or Jessie Vargas is kind of silly.

Almost all of my money will be bet with bookies but I'm happy to make some prop bets vs. cash.

e.g. if Connor wins 3 rounds, I will shave my head and give my flowing head of blonde and red highlighted hair to some lucky cancer patient. If someone is willing to put up cash on the other side.
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August 13th, 2017 at 3:50:53 AM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux

One punch KOs are actually pretty uncommon at the top levels in boxing, especially outside of the HW division.

Marquez got Manny. Marquez is also a HOF boxer and a master tactician who spent months planning. Benard Hopkins got Oscar with a body shot. A middle weight hall of famer, fighting a guy who started out an 84 pounds or something,

Not too many other examples. Most guys at this level are too polished to expose themselves and too tough to be stopped so easily.

Connor doesn't have great power by boxing standards. Only in the kiddy pool.

Plus, MMA is still a young sport. While it is eclipsing boxing in many countries today, 10-15 years ago they were still fighting for relative chump change. Guys like Jones dominate on athleticism because the athleticism still isn't as good as established, global sports. It will be eventually (well, maybe not, because as the sport is truly breaking, we are learning too much about concussions), but it isn't yet.

Anywho, Connor ain't knocking anybody out. The idea that he could KO even someone a notch or 2 lower, say Jeff Horn (the guy who Manny just got robbed against) or Jessie Vargas is kind of silly.

Almost all of my money will be bet with bookies but I'm happy to make some prop bets vs. cash.

e.g. if Connor wins 3 rounds, I will shave my head and give my flowing head of blonde and red highlighted hair to some lucky cancer patient. If someone is willing to put up cash on the other side.


Damn that's cold.

How much cash I gotta put up vs you shaving your head?
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August 13th, 2017 at 4:42:34 AM permalink
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]How much cash I gotta put up vs you shaving your head?[/spoiler]



Hmmm. Maybe we can get a pool goin'.

Just so the stakes are clear, here is the hair in question.



It's probably like 2 feet long or so. Halfway down my back, in any case.
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August 13th, 2017 at 6:01:37 AM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux



e.g. if Connor wins 3 rounds, I will shave my head and give my flowing head of blonde and red highlighted hair to some lucky cancer patient.

More like insult to injury (-;
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August 13th, 2017 at 6:27:18 AM permalink
Quote: Romes

That would be the 2nd worst fight in UFC history, behind Forest Griffin and Anderson Silva. The match-up is HORRIBLE. Lesner has a glass chin and jones has length on him to just hit it from a far. The fight would NOT last more than one round unless jones decided not to beat him instantly.

I have action on the fight... don't worry.

Funny enuogh, I'd put them at 'about' the same line, with perhaps mayweather being a bigger favorite even... but about the same. You're just watching the game going "no safety, no safety..." just like the fight "no knockout, no knockout." Then you win.

Would you give me the same -450 line you're giving SOOPOO for Floyd? What odds are you wanting for mcg?

Eh, I wouldn't go that far. Anyone who respects combat sports and fighting in general MUST respect the ability for anyone to knock anyone out, at any time... Especially at these levels. That being said, I agree that my money is on Floyd.



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August 13th, 2017 at 7:13:36 AM permalink
A local casino is having a drawing with two barrels, one for Mayweather and one for McGregor, and they'll pick 10 $250 fp winners out of the barrel of whoever wins. Tempting to be in the long shot barrel, but this fight is a joke isn't it.
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August 13th, 2017 at 9:28:19 AM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux

Quote: RS


]How much cash I gotta put up vs you shaving your head?[/spoiler]



Hmmm. Maybe we can get a pool goin'.

Just so the stakes are clear, here is the hair in question.



It's probably like 2 feet long or so. Halfway down my back, in any case.



So McG doesn't have to win the fight, he only has to win 3 rounds of it, correct?

If so, I'll take a piece of McGregor. But need full explanation of the bet first, and the amount.
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August 13th, 2017 at 10:02:38 AM permalink
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]How much cash I gotta put up vs you shaving your head?[/spoiler]







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August 13th, 2017 at 10:11:37 AM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux

Hmmm. Maybe we can get a pool goin'.

Just so the stakes are clear, here is the hair in question.



It's probably like 2 feet long or so. Halfway down my back, in any case.


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August 13th, 2017 at 11:45:19 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Quote: Rigondeaux

Hmmm. Maybe we can get a pool goin'.

Just so the stakes are clear, here is the hair in question.



It's probably like 2 feet long or so. Halfway down my back, in any case.


Or he is just cheap and doesn't like to pay for hair cuts.
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August 13th, 2017 at 11:55:21 AM permalink
Not that his ego would allow him to do it, but I can certainly see where someone might offer a lot of money to Floyd to throw the fight.

He could then bet heavy against himself and clean up.

No downside, so long as the truth remains bottled up: he'd still get paid for fighting, plus he'd really get uber-rich on the bets.

But hey, it'll never happen: the "sweet science" is immune to such shenanigans.

*stifled guffaw*
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August 13th, 2017 at 12:16:06 PM permalink
Mayweather is, to be kind, a mutt. If he wins easily, this is his last big payday.
Anything controversial happens, there will be a rematch.
Food for thought.
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August 13th, 2017 at 12:57:13 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Quote: Rigondeaux

Hmmm. Maybe we can get a pool goin'.

Just so the stakes are clear, here is the hair in question.



It's probably like 2 feet long or so. Halfway down my back, in any case.


Or he is just cheap and doesn't like to pay for hair cuts.



Axel is closer to the truth. I also had long hair as a yoot. This was because I liked Slayer, not the greatful dead.

I am lazy but alo occasionally consider how much I've saved on haircuts.

My hair started getting long again and I just decided to let it run wild once more before it goes grey or falls out.
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August 13th, 2017 at 1:01:34 PM permalink
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You must use Pantene Pro V.



Women folk have always asked me for the secret.

Here it is: don't constantly dunk your head in chemicals.
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August 13th, 2017 at 1:48:30 PM permalink
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Women folk have always asked me for the secret.

Here it is: don't constantly dunk your head in chemicals.

That's what the girl cutting my hair says.
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August 13th, 2017 at 1:52:20 PM permalink
When I had my clubs, a great deal of my busboys were Mexicans with amazing long hair. Many of the dancers were always after them for their secrets. They used a product that was designed for horse manes. I kid you not. Only place to get it, pre-internet, was at a horse racing supply store across the street from Belmont Park.
Now you can buy it from the comfort of your living room.
https://manelylonghair.com/our-products/
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August 13th, 2017 at 6:20:57 PM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux

I am lazy but alo occasionally consider how much I've saved on haircuts.


I bought a brand new set of Conair hair trimmers for $10.00 about 15 years ago in place of a beard and mustache trimmer which were going for $40+. I've never paid for a haircut since.
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August 13th, 2017 at 6:27:34 PM permalink
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[I am lazy but alo occasionally consider how much I've saved on haircuts.


I can't imagine long hair is easier to maintain. My short hair will get greasy and smelly if go longer than 24hrs without a shower.
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August 13th, 2017 at 6:29:09 PM permalink
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I bought a brand new set of Conair hair trimmers for $10.00 about 15 years ago in place of a beard and mustache trimmer which were going for $40+. I've never paid for a haircut since.


Conair and Whahl trimmers have always failed me.

I've had an Andis professional hair and beard trimmer for years now and I think they'll last me the rest of my life
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August 14th, 2017 at 1:29:28 AM permalink
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Mayweather is, to be kind, a mutt.




Mayweather, not to be kind; but to be objective:



IS ONE OF THE GREATEST BOXERS WHO EVER LIVED
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August 14th, 2017 at 6:49:02 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

South Point just booked a $880,000.00 bet on Mayweather.



This bet was confirmed to be the maloof brothers

They say the winnings will be donated to charity
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August 14th, 2017 at 7:41:28 AM permalink
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This bet was confirmed to be the maloof brothers

They say the winnings will be donated to charity

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August 14th, 2017 at 9:07:23 AM permalink
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AxelWolfCharity.org



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August 14th, 2017 at 9:27:13 AM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

I'd take plus 500 now- let me know what you are looking to bet

Eh, I'd only be interested in the -450 line for me to take Floyd. What would be your lower/upper limits for just this bet?

i.e. I bet $450 with you. If Floyd wins, I win $100. If Floyd loses, I lose $450. That's already giving up 4.5 to mcgreggor. To straight bet mcgreggor he's going off at +350, def no +500 =).
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August 14th, 2017 at 10:37:29 AM permalink
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Must be down for maintenance. I will take cash if they insist.
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August 17th, 2017 at 10:04:36 AM permalink
Very unlike Floyd to concede any advantage. But it appears this was actually his idea.

https://www.badlefthook.com/2017/8/17/16161760/mcgregor-floyd-wont-last-2-rounds-with-8oz-gloves


Conor McGregor, who was thrilled by the Nevada State Athletic Commission’s decision to allow 8oz gloves in his fight with Floyd Mayweather, is expecting an even shorter fight than before. McGregor has long been saying that he was going to knock out Mayweather within four rounds, but he’s now halving that prediction based upon the smaller gloves.
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August 17th, 2017 at 10:28:30 AM permalink
Smaller gloves mean Mayweathers punches will be faster.
Just more indication of how much of a joke this is.
Can't imagine the Athletic Commission would waive its rules for another match.
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August 17th, 2017 at 12:11:04 PM permalink
I am going to be on a cruise that night what are the chances that they will be showing it in one of the bars on the boat?
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August 17th, 2017 at 12:13:03 PM permalink
Quote: kmumf

I am going to be on a cruise that night what are the chances that they will be showing it in one of the bars on the boat?

Probably small? Depends on the cruise ship. If they buy it for the boat I'd imagine they'd have to spend crazy money because "potentially X number of people could be watching it." Perhaps if they only air it in ONE of their bars, then it would be like a normal bar... Not sure. I basically wouldn't bet on seeing it, but would be pleasantly surprised if you do. If they have decent WiFi you could always order it and stream it on a tablet or something.
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August 17th, 2017 at 12:24:20 PM permalink
Yeah this was my thoughts as well. Wifi on ships is so lame and $$$ so I may just miss this s**t show. Not a big loss but like you said I might get lucky and find a way to watch it.
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August 17th, 2017 at 3:17:48 PM permalink
It's been ten years since I have been on a cruise, but I've seen two PPVs on Carnival cruises. One was only shown in the sports bar, the other was shown in cabins.
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August 22nd, 2017 at 10:00:36 PM permalink
Yes! This fight is just pure nonsense. It's a complete freak show.
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August 22nd, 2017 at 11:44:31 PM permalink
Sorry romes wasn't on much , if you are still interested I'm open to betting

I'll still take other bets as well if anyone interested
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August 23rd, 2017 at 4:26:24 AM permalink
huge amounts of money flowing in on mcgregor. mgm reports over 6,000 more tickets on him than on mayweather.

the odds are changing and mayweather is now at -475. here is betonline.ag right now:

Conor McGregor..... +375

Floyd Mayweather Jr -475


books are crying they'll lose a ton of money if mcgregor wins. BOOHOOHOO. let me dry my tears:

http://nypost.com/2017/08/22/las-vegas-books-staring-down-mayweather-mcgregor-disaster/
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August 23rd, 2017 at 7:49:50 AM permalink
...and apparently Bovada has -400 for Mayweather.

Wizofnothing, are you willing to match, or beat, the -400 line currently available? My structure for a bet would need to be *something like*: I'll take Mayweather at -400 for $4k. Mayweather wins, I win $1k. Mayweather loses, I lose $4k. We'd have to settle in person, in Vegas, with cash, as both of us are members in good standing and I'm there quarterly I don't think it should be too big of an issue?
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August 23rd, 2017 at 12:52:12 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

South Point just booked a $880,000.00 bet on Mayweather.



Word is that McGregor placed the bet
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August 23rd, 2017 at 1:15:35 PM permalink
Quote: sixsisters

Word is that McGregor placed the bet


Lol. That made me laugh. No need to create a buzz fuss, that was the Maloof brothers, at least according to a few articles/videos I've seen on it.
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August 23rd, 2017 at 4:51:38 PM permalink
My understanding is they intent to donate the winnings to charity, if any. I think whoever the charity is would say, "Just the 800k will do nicely, please, thank you."
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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August 23rd, 2017 at 8:03:10 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

My understanding is they intent to donate the winnings to charity, if any. I think whoever the charity is would say, "Just the 800k will do nicely, please, thank you."



Charities like free money as much as anybody.
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August 23rd, 2017 at 8:54:08 PM permalink
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Charities like free money as much as anybody.



True, but I think they would prefer to actually receive the money.

EDIT: Sorry, misunderstood! Thought the Maloof bet was on McGregor.
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August 23rd, 2017 at 8:59:42 PM permalink
It's on the Mayweathers :3
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August 24th, 2017 at 1:55:41 AM permalink
What time EST is this fight supposed to begin and what time is the latest it'll be over and official?
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August 24th, 2017 at 2:09:18 AM permalink
A little after midnite. It could last almost an hour if it goes 12 and to the judges scorecard. Each round is 3 minutes with one minute in between rounds but between the fighters entrances, the final instructions and all it could be 130AM before its all said and done." Could be" being the key. I don't see it going to a judges decision.
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August 24th, 2017 at 3:02:15 AM permalink
Omg. I'll be dead by then if it's 130 am. That would be so cruel, the casino has a paper ballot drawing, if it took that long, they might not even give out half the fp because nobody would be there. Fingers crossed for a knock out.
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A little after midnite. It could last almost an hour if it goes 12 and to the judges scorecard. Each round is 3 minutes with one minute in between rounds but between the fighters entrances, the final instructions and all it could be 130AM before its all said and done." Could be" being the key. I don't see it going to a judges decision.

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August 24th, 2017 at 1:27:00 PM permalink
Why do I have the feeling that there's going to be some sort of shenanigans involving the fight?

First of all, what if McGregor mysteriously doesn't make weight? Then again, I don't think it's a title fight, unless you count the WBC "Moneyweight" title supposedly on the line, so I don't see either fighter's weight causing a problem.

I can't help but think about a wrestling event in early 1999 and how it might make its way into the fight...
"There's the bell for round 1...the fighters are feeling each other out...McGregor approaches and throws a right, but he stops short, and just taps Mayweather on the chin...and Mayweather drops like a sack of potatoes! (Ten seconds later) Mayweather is out...but what's this? He gets right back on his feet, and he and McGregor appear to be celebrating together in the ring! They're being surrounded by followers as they're rushed out of the ring, which is now being filled with beer bottles and other garbage being thrown by the fans!" Needless to say, that is definitely the last fight for both of them.
(For those of you wondering what happened in 1999, search "Fingerpoke Of Doom")

Or, there's always, "They've both landed clean shots to each other's chins, and they're both down! It's a draw!", followed by reports of some heavy betting action on a draw.

Okay, okay, but here's a definite possibility, albeit not (necessarily) intentional; McGregor bumps heads with Mayweather, one of them gets a nasty cut, and they have to stop the fight early, so it's a no contest. (I'm not sure if the fight has to go five rounds or six before they could have a judges' decision.)
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August 24th, 2017 at 3:09:56 PM permalink
Definitely seems like there could be some shenanigans afoot. I certainly hope there won't no be any shenanigans, though.
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