Should be interesting.
Thank god I wasn't planning a trip for that time...
Quote: RogerKintIt's amazing that such a silly fight will garner so much hype. Will McGregor land a single punch? Ward v Kovalev rematch is this weekend. It's the first time in over 20 years the #1 and #2 pound for pound ranked boxers will fight each other.... aaaaand no one cares.
I care! But not much mainstream attention, sadly. Got kov +150.
Floyd should be 1 to 500. Maybe you could argue 1 to 100 or even 75. You can get him for 1 to 8.
Quote: RogerKintWill McGregor land a single punch?
Maybe a few, but I bet he knows how to TAKE a punch. I predict the fight will go the distance, but Mayweather will win on points.
Quote: TigerWuMaybe a few, but I bet he knows how to TAKE a punch. I predict the fight will go the distance, but Mayweather will win on points.
But Mayweather knocked out The Big Show with one punch!
I like the sweet science.
Barring an absolute fluke, Floyd will win, and with no uncertainty.
Conor is tough, but being a great striker and grappler may lead to victory in the octagon, but you need boxing skills once you get in the ring.
He's got a couple months to practice, and to learn how to box at this level.
Tough task, very tough task.
"Mayweather a minus-1000 favorite. McGregor is plus-650." speaks volumes.
No one, and I mean no one thought that anyone could take up boxing and learn it well enough in a year to make the fight competitive.
I don't see Connor lasting three rounds, unless Floyd carries him.
Quote: RigondeauxFloyd should be 1 to 500. Maybe you could argue 1 to 100 or even 75. You can get him for 1 to 8.
What odds can you get on the fight actually happening before Labor Day? This has "the fight was delayed because somebody received an unspecified injury in training, and has absolutely, positively nothing to do with those rumors that McGregor's handlers think he needs more time to train" written all over it.
1) I'm not a big Connor fan, but understand like Mayweather he runs his mouth to get a following (good or bad) and to collect his paycheck.
2) A lot of people in this thread seem to be forgetting something... Connor has been training boxing for decades. MMA is Mixed Martial Arts. You study ALL of the different martial arts separately and then usually have one class/training session that puts them all together. For example, I went to training last Saturday and I did Boxing class (ALL BOXING) and then did MMA class (mixture of everything). So Connor is NOT new to just raw/pure boxing. His focus has simply been utilizing his boxing in an MMA fight, which often times you set up take downs with punches, etc, etc. So really he needs time to adjust his thinking to pure boxing as it relates, and who knows how long that would take/etc.
3) I do not hold high hopes for Connor, not because it's MMA vs Boxing, but because it's Mayweather... Who is amazing at just simply not getting hit. Also, as shown in Connors previous fights I think Mayweathers gas tank (combined with his movement to make Connor miss a lot) will simply overwhelm Connor.
4) IF by some craziness Connor does manage to win it would be one of the largest lightening rods for MMA the community has ever seen. A MMA fighter beating the top boxer? Well then boxers would have to try to step in to the cage with MMA fighters at some point, and they would all promptly be embarassed. MMA is a much more full formed fight (obviously) and boxing is unrealistic as far as "raw fighting" goes. If I got in a street fight with Mayweather... If I got him to the GROUND, I would probably beat his ass. That's a big if... but you realize I wouldn't be trading punches with him at all, but more less just diving at his legs and even pulling guard just to get him on the ground.
5) A sneaky sneaky 5... Connor's hands have gotten faster and more accurate with every single one of his last few fights. I do think he'll look pretty fast/crisp as a boxer and might give Mayweather a little more than he expected, though yes, I still expect Connor to lose. If Connor could stay crisp for all the rounds and get his gas tank up, I think it would if nothing else be a good fight. His hands aren't what worry me the most, it's his gas tank.
Connor has been training boxing for decades... Literally boxing training where they use boxing gloves, no take downs, etc, etc... Pure boxing.Quote: monet0412A complete joke and cash grab. Anyone in boxing agrees it would take 5 years of serious traning in boxing and bouts in the boxing ring to be able to even see if he had a chance to get the shot.
Not trying to be rude, just honest, that's a pretty poor comparison. MMA encompases Boxing. Thus that would be like an MLB pitcher going to some other sport to pitch the same but with some other rules... It's still pitching.Quote: monet0412A good analogy is an MLB player trying to go play in the NFL for the weekend.
And Tank Abbot tried to win a fight by throwing someone out of the octagon... Only guy ever to try ;-).Quote: monet0412..I liked the UFC the first year or so when it was no gloves and no weight classes... now that was fun to watch.
I kind of more/less agree with this, though as stated in my last post, I think people are going to underestimate McGregor. I don't doubt his boxing/hands AS much (yes I think Mayweather is better). Say Mayweather is 10/10 pure hands/striking... People think McGregor is 2/10 for some reason, when he's been boxing for decades and is 8/10. I think his big weakness (according to his last few fights) will be his gas tank.Quote: monet0412Anyways... the only chance for McGregor is that Mayweather takes a dive which would be more possible a hundred years ago but since Floyd will make so much money off of this it is unlikely the case. People can cross train other sports but McGregor is no Bo Jackson.... McGregor don't know Didley when it comes to Boxing!
Quote: ZenKinGThe fix is in, bet the house on McGregor. You heard it here first
Hahahahaha what a surprise ZK thinks that something is rigged. Who would ever think that would happen 😂😂😂
Sure, connor practices boxing. He also yhrows punches at a professional level against second tier athletes. That's still miles away from being a professional boxer, never mind an elite, never mind an all time great. The 20th best guy in the division would school connor.
Floyd would obliterate you in a street fight. I mean, it's a street fight so i guess you could initiate it by smashing a glass in his face. But other than that... come on.
Sports is a lot about levels. Guy looks like a super hero in high school. Best player coach has ever seen. Then he goes do Division 1 and is just a guy. But the very best player on that team goes to the nfl. Where he is just a guy. And out of all those bests of bests of bests you have someone at the tom brady level.
In two months or so, Brady and the Patriots take on Eastern Kentucky State Tech A&M.
Quote: Rigondeaux
Floyd would obliterate you in a street fight. I mean, it's a street fight so i guess you could initiate it by smashing a glass in his face. But other than that... come on.
The last thing he'd remember is attempting to swing the glass.
I'd be interested in lines on whether this fight will go the distance. On the surface, the fight looks like it should go the distance because of Mayweathers age and larger gloves than McGregor is used to being hit with. However, there's some extra dimensions to this fight that may cause it to end early. Think Mayweather v Ortiz. DQ is a higher than normal possibility in this fight for many reasons.
Quote: RomesConnor has been training boxing for decades... Literally boxing training where they use boxing gloves, no take downs, etc, etc... Pure boxing.
Every player in the NFL has trained their sprinting their entire life. What chance would Odell Beckham have against Usain Bolt in a 100 meter race?
Quote: RomesSay Mayweather is 10/10 pure hands/striking... People think McGregor is 2/10 for some reason, when he's been boxing for decades and is 8/10. I think his big weakness (according to his last few fights) will be his gas tank.
I'm sure we could say the Alabama football team is 8/10. What would have happened if they played the New England Patriots last year?
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The only thing this fight has going for is that 2% chance McGregor does win, it will be one of the most jaw-dropping moments in sports history. But there's a 98% it doesn't happen.
I would personally like to see them come out in round one and touch gloves then have Connor round house kick to the head and take Floyd down in the first 10 seconds. That would create some real drama and might result in a rematch after the disqualification.
Quote: DRichJust remember, if Floyd loses he is pretty much guaranteed a rematch that will earn him another $200 million.If he wins there isn't going to be another big payday like that. My guess is that his ego is too big to throw the fight.
I would personally like to see them come out in round one and touch gloves then have Connor round house kick to the head and take Floyd down in the first 10 seconds. That would create some real drama and might result in a rematch after the disqualification.
He'll probably feint kicks and take downs just to get into his opponent's head and excite the viewer.
Quote: RomesAs a fighter, I'd like to weigh in...
Lol
McGregor trains boxing with BOXING trainers and BOXING professionals (aka other top tier gold glove boxers) and BOXING rules. Why on Earth people keep thinking "he's an MMA fighter he doesn't know how to box" is beyond me... and again, I'm NOT saying he has a fair shot at winning even... Just saying people who don't fight have no clue what goes in to MMA training, clearly.Quote: monet0412You give way too much credit for some training in boxing compared to professionals bouts in boxing only with completely different gloves and rules but that's ok, it's all opinions.
See comment above about McGreggors boxing training. Also, there are PLENTY of MMA fighters (in the UFC as well) that were former gold glove boxers that get knocked out by "regular" MMA fighters ALLLLLL the time.Quote: RigondeauxYou're wrong on all counts Romes.
Sure, connor practices boxing. He also yhrows punches at a professional level against second tier athletes. That's still miles away from being a professional boxer, never mind an elite, never mind an all time great. The 20th best guy in the division would school connor.
Again, I'm not saying McGreggor will win, nor that I even like him, just that people are highly doubting him when he has a lot more training than most realize in "boxing." I'm sure you could find some of the "top" sprinters in the NFL and they could in fact "compete" with top sprinters. Do note that I'm not saying win, but it wouldn't be a complete joke. All I'm saying is I don't think the fight will be a complete joke, like everyone else is saying. AGAIN - I do NOT think McGreggor can win though.Quote: TomGEvery player in the NFL has trained their sprinting their entire life. What chance would Odell Beckham have against Usain Bolt in a 100 meter race?
Alabama is 8 or 9 out of 10... in college. As someone else said with sports there's levels. College is a different league than the NFL. The proper comparison to what you're saying is "could an AMATEUR MMA fighter take on Mayweather?" The answer is of course no and it would be a complete sh*t show. I'm simply stating I don't think it will be a complete sh*t show... that is all.Quote: TomGI'm sure we could say the Alabama football team is 8/10. What would have happened if they played the New England Patriots last year?
Quote: RogerKintLolQuote: RomesAs a fighter, I'd like to weigh in...,
*edit: Wow, well now I do see the joke... Been a rough week =(.
I do tell a lot of jokes, didn't realize that was one of them. I've been fighting for over a decade... against multiple UFC vets and a plethora of talented amateurs/professionals alike spanning numerous gyms. I've had my eyebrow split open, ligaments torn, been punched in the head countless times with both MMA gloves and boxing gloves alike, as well as competed in some such highly named competitions that I won't repeat the names to give up my identity... up to an including this past weekend. Not even being mean/mad/etc, just an open invite because I love the sport... I can bring a couple pair of gloves to vegas if you'd like to find out if I'm qualified enough to be a fighter or not =).
Quote: TomGEvery player in the NFL has trained their sprinting their entire life. What chance would Odell Beckham have against Usain Bolt in a 100 meter race?
I'm sure we could say the Alabama football team is 8/10. What would have happened if they played the New England Patriots last year?
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The only thing this fight has going for is that 2% chance McGregor does win, it will be one of the most jaw-dropping moments in sports history. But there's a 98% it doesn't happen.
2% is too high.
We're basically talking about a 1 punch ko on a guy who has only ever been in real trouble once, againt Shane Mosely, briefly, or a freak dq or injury.
Boxing is one of the more unforgiving sports for dogs because the have to win the majority of 10 to 12 seperate rounds.
However, I think there could be a great promotional tie in with holliday inn express
And to the saps that buy the fight, most will be the same people who said they would never buy another boxing match after the snooze fest that was Mayweather- Pac Man. And yet they will be back gladly handing over their $100 again. Give credit to these guys for taking it.
Alabama's level in football is higher than connor in boxing, by a good margin. They are the very top amateurs. Well, amateurs in theory. Like an olympic gold medalist and many will go on to be pros.
An olympic gold medalist in boxing might not even be a good pro, yes partially because of dif In format. But even a future star would have little chance against someone like Kovalev or Ward because it takes years of full time dedication and experience to reach that point.
Lomochenko, perhaps the best boxer on earth, lost to a tough journeyman for these reasons.
Connor isn't even a full time amateur boxer.
Quote: BozMayweather would never risk his record against anyone he thinks he has any chance of losing to.
I agree.
Mayweather gets to an even 50-0. Conor gets the biggest payday of his life.
It's a win-win, kinda.
Yeah I saw that after you pointed it out. 100% missed it prior. And for the record, I've never been nor will I ever be on any juice =).Quote: RigondeauxFirstly, cut back on the juice. The funny thing was the phrase weigh in.
Funny, he's BEATEN gold glove boxers and trains with (and beats) top professional boxers. Yet somehow he doesn't even qualify as amateur?Quote: RigondeauxConnor isn't even a full time amateur boxer.
Quote: ams288I agree.
Mayweather gets to an even 50-0. Conor gets the biggest payday of his life.
It's a win-win, kinda.
He's gotta be in the conversation for best of all time and seems to be much smarter than people give him credit for. I've heard he gambles pretty big, though and sincerely hope he doesn't lose too much money at it.
I just don't see it.
Quote: RomesYeah I saw that after you pointed it out. 100% missed it prior. And for the record, I've never been nor will I ever be on any juice =).
Funny, he's BEATEN gold glove boxers and trains with (and beats) top professional boxers. Yet somehow he doesn't even qualify as amateur?
In sparrong?
Who?
Really this is pretty easy. T/F. Conner is much better at boxing than Lomachenko was a couple years ago.
I'm betting that, mot only is the answer false, he is actually far worse.
Metod of victory is an interesting conversation though
How much for pay per view?
Quote: Rigondeaux2% is too high.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly_criterion
Based on current Las Vegas odds of -1300:
(1/13)(0.98) - (0.02) / (1/13) = 0.72
You really think risking 72% of your bankroll on this one fight would be the correct bet? That would be $40,000 for Zen King. Quite a bit more for many others.
Quote: MrVWhat are they charging for tickets?
How much for pay per view?
I don't think they have figured all that out yet.
The only thing I could find for sure is that it will be at the T-Mobile Arena.
August 26th, T-Mobile Arena, 10 ounce gloves.Quote: ams288I don't think they have figured all that out yet.
The only thing I could find for sure is that it will be at the T-Mobile Arena.
Quote: RomesAugust 26th, T-Mobile Arena, 10 ounce gloves.
I'd prefer they use chainsaws.
Perhaps there are people who don't get that joke. I couldn't find the WOV link.Quote: AxelWolfWho the hell is Floyd Mayweather? (-;
Quote: AxelWolfPerhaps there are people who don't get that joke. I couldn't find the WOV link.
Does it involve kilo juliet? If so, I got the joke as soon as I read it.
Or are you talking about someone whom's name rhymes with hairy? S. Or whoever that guy was that said he was a big sports bettor but didn't know who Floyd was?
Quote: TomGhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly_criterion
Based on current Las Vegas odds of -1300:
(1/13)(0.98) - (0.02) / (1/13) = 0.72
You really think risking 72% of your bankroll on this one fight would be the correct bet? That would be $40,000 for Zen King. Quite a bit more for many others.
In theory, yes. In practice the emotional cost of a blown knee might be to high.
Look at boxing lines. The guy named after my screen name is -900 against a legit opponent on the Ward undercard.
Mikey Garcia is -750 against Adrien Broner, who is a big name in boxing who would effortlessly school conner.
Kos aside, there are no 3 run hrs in boxing. It's a best of 12 contest. Very hard for an inferior boxer to win.
Floyd is 49-0 against boxers, mostly world class boxers who would beat conner in their sleep. Hard to say he's been terribly lucky in that run either.
Rhymes with fairy and hairy, hairy as in, hairy ball washing.Quote: RSDoes it involve kilo juliet? If so, I got the joke as soon as I read it.
Or are you talking about someone whom's name rhymes with hairy? S. Or whoever that guy was that said he was a big sports bettor but didn't know who Floyd was?I almost spelled "rhymes" as "rimes".....the AxelWolf effect.
Quote: MrVCheap shot there, Axel: cheap shot.
Who cares?
Quote: RSWho cares?
He does. Can't you see he runs to all 3,628,953,747 message boards him and the other guy are on to gossip?
Quote: IbeatyouracesHe does. Can't you see he runs to all 3,628,953,747 message boards him and the other guy are on to gossip?
Two boards, actually; only two: not 3,628,953,747.
I thought gamblers needed to know how to count accurately?
True, under the rules here one can insult those who have been banned, but the same rules do not preclude a member of this forum from making fair comment about it.
something tells me he is now officially Connors ex-sparring partner.