TIMSPEED
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November 30th, 2011 at 9:03:40 AM permalink
I'll get a picture of it this weekend, but I've been wondering for a long time...
There's a bank of 1c Triple Lucky 7's slots with independant jackpots...the entire bank has ~$4000 jackpot, but ONE of the machines has a ~$16k jackpot...SAME machines, just that one in particular has a jackpot cranked up...I know with slots it doesn't matter...but it just seems like if the jackpot is up THAT high on the same machine, maybe it has a very thin House Edge...?
Like I said, I'll get pics this weekend of the machines for all to decide...
Gambling calls to me...like this ~> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nap37mNSmQ
Ike
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November 30th, 2011 at 10:09:39 AM permalink
No....you don't know what the theoretical hold percentage of each game is. The graphics on the front of the game mean nothing. The $4,000 jackpot game might actually be better for the player than the $16,000 game. As the player knowing which game is better, unless you know someone who works at that casino, you will never know.
ThatDonGuy
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November 30th, 2011 at 11:41:22 AM permalink
Quote: Ike

The $4,000 jackpot game might actually be better for the player than the $16,000 game. As the player knowing which game is better, unless you know someone who works at that casino, you will never know.


Unless you're in Melbourne (Australia, not Florida) where, for some strange (and probably legal) reason, the machines have to make the house advantage available.
Ayecarumba
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November 30th, 2011 at 2:22:02 PM permalink
Do they have to tell you if you ask? What if you were with Gaming Control?

At some point, even at 85%, the game has to turn positive. Unfortunately, that could be at $252 million.
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WizardofEngland
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November 30th, 2011 at 2:33:45 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

Do they have to tell you if you ask? What if you were with Gaming Control?

At some point, even at 85%, the game has to turn positive. Unfortunately, that could be at $252 million.



FWIW here in the UK the return HAS to be printed on the glass.
http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/10042-woes-black-sheep-game-ii/#post151727
ahiromu
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November 30th, 2011 at 5:46:47 PM permalink
Although in games like this that have jackpots, what would the return tell you?

Something like...

(Direct returns) + (What % goes towards the jackpot) = Return

?

Basically, is the break even point built into it at all?
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JIMMYFOCKER
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October 18th, 2013 at 2:39:48 PM permalink
Quote: ahiromu

Although in games like this that have jackpots, what would the return tell you?

Something like...

(Direct returns) + (What % goes towards the jackpot) = Return

?

Basically, is the break even point built into it at all?

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