Casinos monitoring AP nation wide?
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I WISH I was joking, but I am very serious and I will be gathering more evidence to follow up on this regularly.
Some are not kicking them out but are not giving them any freeplay or comps.
Quote: 7NeverWinsYou're not Far off. While I can't divulge details, I do have Definitive Proof that they are monitoring Slot players activities whether or not you Use a Player's Card!
I WISH I was joking, but I am very serious and I will be gathering more evidence to follow up on this regularly.
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AP infestation has gotten worse in the past few months around me.
Campers now are literally standing behind the person playing to mark their territory and probably pissing off the ploppie.
it's only a matter of time before enough complaints will lead the casino to (finally) do something.
Quote: sdg84Are there any casinos that are actively monitoring and kicking AP players out? I have heard peppermill in Reno being pretty active. Cosmo in Vegas from time to time montoring as well. Are there other casinos nation wide doing the same?
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Atlantis and Peppermill are the only ones I’m aware of in Reno. Atlantis has been doing very poorly since no mailing their AP’s and removing their games. Turns out not just AP’s like playing accumulator games.
Quote: HunterhillYes there are casinos actively kicking out slot aps.
Some are not kicking them out but are not giving them any freeplay or comps.
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Casinos usually just remove the games. They’d be smarter no mailing and leaving the machines alone. No matter what others tell you AP’s don’t cost the casinos any kind of notable money.
Now that might stop multi-carders but ironically, most multi-carders don't camp and annoy ploppies.
Quote: SlotenthusiastQuote: HunterhillYes there are casinos actively kicking out slot aps.
Some are not kicking them out but are not giving them any freeplay or comps.
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Casinos usually just remove the games. They’d be smarter no mailing and leaving the machines alone. No matter what others tell you AP’s don’t cost the casinos any kind of notable money.
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What is notable money in your opinion? I’m just really curious. Just to clarify, you are saying AP’s do cost casinos money, but not in a significant amount?
Quote: SiegfriedRoyQuote: SlotenthusiastQuote: HunterhillYes there are casinos actively kicking out slot aps.
Some are not kicking them out but are not giving them any freeplay or comps.
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Casinos usually just remove the games. They’d be smarter no mailing and leaving the machines alone. No matter what others tell you AP’s don’t cost the casinos any kind of notable money.
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What is notable money in your opinion? I’m just really curious. Just to clarify, you are saying AP’s do cost casinos money, but not in a significant amount?
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Less money than it costs to brew coffee for employees in the break room. Certainly not worth investing money to identify players.
I think long-term bad APs are gonna cost casinos money when the average casino enjoyer starts having their experience go down from the bad behaviors of some APs. Really all it takes is a handful of bad experiences to ruin someone's interest in slots play.Quote: SlotenthusiastQuote: HunterhillYes there are casinos actively kicking out slot aps.
Some are not kicking them out but are not giving them any freeplay or comps.
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Casinos usually just remove the games. They’d be smarter no mailing and leaving the machines alone. No matter what others tell you AP’s don’t cost the casinos any kind of notable money.
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Quote: 100xOddsRemoving my comps won't stop me from going to the casino.
Now that might stop multi-carders but ironically, most multi-carders don't camp and annoy ploppies.
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They may very well be starting counter measures to deter Multi-carders, more to follow in my current investigation.
Quote: ChallengedMillyI think long-term bad APs are gonna cost casinos money when the average casino enjoyer starts having their experience go down from the bad behaviors of some APs. Really all it takes is a handful of bad experiences to ruin someone's interest in slots play.Quote: SlotenthusiastQuote: HunterhillYes there are casinos actively kicking out slot aps.
Some are not kicking them out but are not giving them any freeplay or comps.
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Casinos usually just remove the games. They’d be smarter no mailing and leaving the machines alone. No matter what others tell you AP’s don’t cost the casinos any kind of notable money.
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AP's that stand close enuf to the ploppie to give her a massage, for instance?
this may be of interest to dark OzQuote: 7NeverWinsQuote: 100xOddsRemoving my comps won't stop me from going to the casino.
Now that might stop multi-carders but ironically, most multi-carders don't camp and annoy ploppies.
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They may very well be starting counter measures to deter Multi-carders, more to follow in my current investigation.
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Quote: avianrandythis may be of interest to dark OzQuote: 7NeverWinsQuote: 100xOddsRemoving my comps won't stop me from going to the casino.
Now that might stop multi-carders but ironically, most multi-carders don't camp and annoy ploppies.
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They may very well be starting counter measures to deter Multi-carders, more to follow in my current investigation.
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Yes but they have been doing that for years.
Just part of the game.
Multicarding is usually feast and famine, rinse and repeat
Quote: 7NeverWinsYou're not Far off. While I can't divulge details, I do have Definitive Proof that they are monitoring Slot players activities whether or not you Use a Player's Card!
I WISH I was joking, but I am very serious and I will be gathering more evidence to follow up on this regularly.
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Please elaborate on this and your MC claim. Without further explanation or proof your claims are unfounded.
Quote: joeblowsmeQuote: 7NeverWinsYou're not Far off. While I can't divulge details, I do have Definitive Proof that they are monitoring Slot players activities whether or not you Use a Player's Card!
I WISH I was joking, but I am very serious and I will be gathering more evidence to follow up on this regularly.
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Please elaborate on this and your MC claim. Without further explanation or proof your claims are unfounded.
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As I stated, I have to do more research to see if this is an isolated incident or in fact a new practice they are engaging in. Rather present it on a small sample size basis, I'm going to keep meticulous records and possibly get footage of their monitoring Slot activities.
Quote: 7NeverWinsQuote: joeblowsmeQuote: 7NeverWinsYou're not Far off. While I can't divulge details, I do have Definitive Proof that they are monitoring Slot players activities whether or not you Use a Player's Card!
I WISH I was joking, but I am very serious and I will be gathering more evidence to follow up on this regularly.
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Please elaborate on this and your MC claim. Without further explanation or proof your claims are unfounded.
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As I stated, I have to do more research to see if this is an isolated incident or in fact a new practice they are engaging in. Rather present it on a small sample size basis, I'm going to keep meticulous records and possibly get footage of their monitoring Slot activities.
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Thanks, please report back
Quote: 7NeverWinsQuote: joeblowsmeQuote: 7NeverWinsYou're not Far off. While I can't divulge details, I do have Definitive Proof that they are monitoring Slot players activities whether or not you Use a Player's Card!
I WISH I was joking, but I am very serious and I will be gathering more evidence to follow up on this regularly.
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Please elaborate on this and your MC claim. Without further explanation or proof your claims are unfounded.
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As I stated, I have to do more research to see if this is an isolated incident or in fact a new practice they are engaging in. Rather present it on a small sample size basis, I'm going to keep meticulous records and possibly get footage of their monitoring Slot activities.
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That's been a rumor for years. Perhaps it may have happened, but I'm highly skeptical. More often than not, marketing comes up with a promotion without thinking it through well enough. Once a bunch of APs show up, they realize their mistake and then decide to take action and target suspected Advantage Players. That's happened numerous times.Quote: NathanI read about Casinos luring APs with a VERY lucrative promotion and when they played the VERY lucrative promotion, the Casinos permanently trespassed them! 😫
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Let alone if it's an 'official' promotion then gaming will make them honor it... I'll take a ~2 year trespass at any casino for solid 5 to 6 figures.Quote: AxelWolfThat's been a rumor for years. Perhaps it may have happened, but I'm highly skeptical. More often than not, marketing comes up with a promotion without thinking it through well enough. Once a bunch of APs show up, they realize their mistake and then decide to take action and target suspected Advantage Players. That's happened numerous times.Quote: NathanI read about Casinos luring APs with a VERY lucrative promotion and when they played the VERY lucrative promotion, the Casinos permanently trespassed them! 😫
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