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December 18th, 2023 at 1:10:38 AM permalink


Mr. Handpay giving it a go on a couple slot machines at least including the Panda Magic/Dragon Link and the similar Happy & Prosperous with a much lower Grand Jackpot on both.


I'm trying to figure out the payback for this kind of win. It's 5000 times 10 cents x the 1X multiplier for $500 as shown in the video. But what if Mr. Handpay hit this with a $25 denom and 5X multiplier on 25 lines for a base bet of $3,125 per pull. He'd win 5,000 x 5 x $25 = $625,000! He could lower his bet to 5 lines or 10 lines depending on the machine but I don't have visual access to the machine yet. Sometimes he plays 10 lines, other people play 5 lines, it can play over 1,000 lines. I don't know why anybody needs to play all those lines since they are nearly all losers unless you fill a screen somehow. I'd stick with 5, 10 or 25 lines, but concentrate more on the multipliers.
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December 18th, 2023 at 3:57:35 PM permalink
Wondering what denominations to choose from on the screens of different machines.




Estimated Mini & Minor JP's based on what I've seen last night.

Denom Mini JP Minor JP
$0.01 $10 $50
$0.02 $20 $100
$0.05 $50 $250
$0.10 $100 $500
$0.25 $250 $1,250
$0.50 $500 $2,500
$1.00 $1,000 $5,000
$2.00 $2,000 $10,000
$5.00 $5,000 $25,000
$10.00 $10,000 $50,000
$25.00 $12,500 $62,500
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December 18th, 2023 at 4:17:04 PM permalink
I've been burned by online slots before recently, play money machines, but they turned real cold. So I'd start with a 300X bet buy-in. What this means for this type of machine with 25 lines and a multiplier of 2 and a variable denom...here's a table of my buy-ins. I'll increase the multiplier or jump to the next denom if I get to +2 Mini JP's ahead while I play.
By increasing the multiplier and jumping to the next denom, I mean, going from 2X, to 3X, to double the denom at 2X, then 3X, then 4X, then 2.5X the denom at 2X, then 3X, then double the denom at 2X, etc.


Denom Buy-in +2 Mini JP
$0.01 $150 $20
$0.02 $300 $40
$0.05 $750 $100
$0.10 $1,500 $200
$0.25 $3,750 $500
$0.50 $7,500 $1,000
$1.00 $15,000 $2,000
$2.00 $30,000 $4,000
$5.00 $75,000 $10,000
$10.00 $150,000 $20,000
$25.00 $375,000 $25,000
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December 18th, 2023 at 9:53:28 PM permalink
Major JP on Autumn Moon/Dragon Link pays around $40K and resets to $25K. The Grand JP is over $1.2Million.

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Major JP on Autumn Moon

Golden Century
It looks like she had 25 lines with a 5X multiplier on them and each line paid either $500 or $1250, or $100 / $250 without the multiplier.


Hit another Major JP, this time on Golden Century


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December 18th, 2023 at 11:39:14 PM permalink
Max Denom bet on Golden Century of $25.
10 line with a 2X multiplier so total bet is is $500.

3 Flags paid him double his bet.

It's the jackpot of 69!

Getting paid in vouchers is a thing, especially $10K vouchers! These vouchers expire in 30 days, so don't dally!


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December 19th, 2023 at 12:13:48 AM permalink
THIS WILL HAPPEN ONCE IN A LIFETIME! BACK TO BACK GRANDS!
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The 2nd Grand was reset to $10K and the first wasn't much more than that. Bet was $2 on 5 lines with a 5X multiplier for a $50 total bet.
The Major JP was just a bit more than the Mini JP he was playing with his $2 denom. It's probably a penny slot and he's playing the highest denom.
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December 19th, 2023 at 2:26:15 AM permalink
They’re all amazing slot players, but seeing how much they lose to get those wins really hits home how dangerous they are. Starting low and building up seems the most sensible approach to playing these machines or just go full send, there’s no in-between.
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December 19th, 2023 at 2:53:03 AM permalink
I have no idea how they'd keep track of their hundreds of W-2G's and their gambling diary because there's no trace that they're keeping track of anything. I think I'd play in Canada first where there's no hand pays and I'd only have to worry about border checks for $10K or more.
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December 19th, 2023 at 10:49:21 AM permalink
Quote: ChumpChange

I have no idea how they'd keep track of their hundreds of W-2G's and their gambling diary because there's no trace that they're keeping track of anything. I think I'd play in Canada first where there's no hand pays and I'd only have to worry about border checks for $10K or more.
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Actually it appears from at least one video that they are using the Hard Rocks tracking system.

Hard rocks have this system you can opt into requiring a bank account where the wins including W2-G jackpots go directly on the player's card and you can then download funds from your Player's card onto a slot machine.

The W2-G information is automatically part of the player record.

I am quite certain the woman with the $40G+ wins is using that because she shows a voucher from Seminole Hard rock she cashed out for $44G+. That would be impossible otherwise because of handpays and slot limitations of $3000 for cash inserted
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December 19th, 2023 at 6:21:56 PM permalink
I checked out the online Hard Rock Front Money application and it has questions I can't answer, so I won't be referring to Front Money accounts anymore. I'll have to take cash, checks, chips, or vouchers.


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What is Self-Pay Jackpot? https://www.unitybyhardrock.com/benefits/self-pay-jackpot
Self-Pay Jackpot is a new and enhanced way to play slots where you can transfer your slot jackpot directly to the slot machine with no interruptions. *Only jackpots from $1,200 - $50,000 can qualify for the Self-Pay Jackpot program.

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December 23rd, 2023 at 4:01:09 AM permalink
The Big Jackpot has a video coming out soon of his big $1 million win on Dragon Link.

But until then, here's his latest video coming back from shoving hundreds into the machine to having $60K on the machine, losing $30K, then winning $30K back. Might want to count how many spins between bonus rounds, because there's a dearth that gets on your nerves.
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December 24th, 2023 at 2:09:36 AM permalink
Wonder what the RTP is like on those big bets! Probably at least 2x the American minimum hourly wage every spin!
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December 26th, 2023 at 2:45:08 AM permalink
Raja hits the coldest machines on earth without a hand pay for so long. He plays 2 different machines in this recap video that has some editing to remove some losing streaks that were cut for time, but the core of the losing streaks remain. If he plans on playing these machines without a hand pay for less than 100 to 300 spins in a row at high bet amounts, he's probably overbetting. Seriously, he can't hit a hand pay with $25-$250 bets on each spin, and it's a testament to how bad his luck is running and it's extreme. But he did hit a jackpot 17 minutes into the first machine, which moved him on to the next machine. The video imaging disintegrates while the reels spin on the 2nd machine from the start to about 35 minutes on the video then it clears up sharply. His luck remains utterly unacceptably bad on the 2nd machine but he did hit a couple hand pays towards the end which did not put a dent in his losing streak that was going on on that machine, until the final jackpot round where he won over $1 million! He took a check for the even amount of $1 million even though he won over $80K over that. He says he has won 4 Grand jackpots over the last 2 months and he was certainly looking for a 5th on this day on this machine. He might make a habit out of this. He says there's no need to bet more than $25 a spin to get the Grand JP, or $1 denom with 25 lines. Anything more is just overkill, but he's all about overkill. I'd say 5 or 10 lines with a $10 denom with a $10K Mini JP & $50K Minor JP would be something to consider. The $25 denom is just overkill because it doesn't bump up those two JP's appropriately.

Here's The Big Jackpot's (Raja's) recap video of his 2 sessions leading up to his $1 million win.
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January 8th, 2024 at 3:40:37 PM permalink
Lady Luck HQ hit a jackpot that put her just over $50K on the credit meter so the $19K JP had to be a hand pay instead of the self-pay she had been running. She was back down to $31K after the hand pay. She played some more and cashed out at $30K. So she had 2 vouchers totaling just under $50K.
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January 8th, 2024 at 11:42:57 PM permalink
Vegas Matt has been doing some high quality vids recently showing most if not ALL of his plays. I think he showed a regal a little while ago at $1250 per spin starting at 54 purp and going all the way till that hit and then a green after that. Every spin in-between. Was a long vid but interesting to watch. Think he was like 330k down at one point and finished somewhere around 150k down.
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January 9th, 2024 at 12:35:57 AM permalink
I located a couple Panda Magics at a casino in my area on my last trip. The denoms went up to $2, and the Grand JP's went up to over $50K. I know little about modern slots so I'm just opening my eyes a little to a very few to start with and maybe get a feel for them and get a strategy going on them. But I'll have to play them in Canada where there's no hand pays first.
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February 20th, 2024 at 10:41:52 AM permalink
How I Won My BIGGEST EVER Jackpot On Dragon Link!
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She had a bit of a slot tourney side hustle going on while playing the machine which I've never seen before, and it does depend on the luck of the other players around you as well as your own luck. She got 2nd place for a $7,500 free play prize. She used $1,000 of that for her next buy-in on the machine. She hit the Major Jackpot worth $50K. The Autopay feature came up but when she pressed OK, the video cut to her getting a hand pay and giving a big tip to the slot attendant. Like I researched before, handpays to over $50K in credits can't be autopays, but it could be different in different places. The Major Jackpot reset to 1/3 X $100K, so it must have maxed out at $50K.



Here's what her free play screen looks like, it says Promo. She can download Front Money onto the machine, or use some kind of wallet that may have been discussed earlier. She could use credit, I suppose that's a credit card or Player's Card with money on it. She could cash in some points to play some credits.


For the Lucky Chance Spin, she hits the bet multiplier to 10 on the denomination she is on, so it turned into a $500 spin if it hit. I'm sure that reduced her chances of hitting it by 5-fold compared to betting the 2X multiplier on the bet. So she Returned To Game, hit the multiplier to 10, then hit Choose Dragon for the potential free spin.


Here's a couple sights of the Bonus Times Tourney. One was on the big screen, but the next few were on the little screen next to the Player's Card reader.



For Panda Magic, there's only 25 lines to choose from on the console, but bet multipliers of 1, 2, 3, 5, and 10.
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May 28th, 2024 at 1:44:23 PM permalink
The Big Jackpot has a voucher for $50,000 he wants to put into a slot machine that only has a top jackpot of double that amount. I just don't get it. Of course he could raise the denom and try for $62,500 Minor JP's and $12,500 Mini JP's, but not on this machine, where a $2 denom would top out at $10,000 and $2,000 Minor & Mini JP's..
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