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April 6th, 2023 at 3:03:58 PM permalink
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The government collects a federal excise tax on every sports bet wagered. The issue is that the way the government taxes them doesn't account for free bets.
A new member joins and gets $100 in free bets. He wins $20 and never bets again. The casino lost $20 and has to pay a tax on the entire $100 It is a bookkeeping nightmare. I'm not sure, but I think this law is only from 2018 , give or take a year.
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You are referring to a different tax code.

This one is from 1986.

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April 6th, 2023 at 6:38:07 PM permalink
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The government collects a federal excise tax on every sports bet wagered. The issue is that the way the government taxes them doesn't account for free bets.
A new member joins and gets $100 in free bets. He wins $20 and never bets again. The casino lost $20 and has to pay a tax on the entire $100 It is a bookkeeping nightmare. I'm not sure, but I think this law is only from 2018 , give or take a year.
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So, slots, VP, table games, poker are not considered 'wagers' under this law? Poker rooms standardly rake 5-10% of every bet at the table, I could understand if they had to pay 0.25% of every cash game wager. But blackjack or craps would be a nightmare.

If the outcome of a sports wager is a push, does the book actually suffer a loss of 0.25% due to this excise tax?
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April 6th, 2023 at 7:09:59 PM permalink
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Quote: billryan

The government collects a federal excise tax on every sports bet wagered. The issue is that the way the government taxes them doesn't account for free bets.
A new member joins and gets $100 in free bets. He wins $20 and never bets again. The casino lost $20 and has to pay a tax on the entire $100 It is a bookkeeping nightmare. I'm not sure, but I think this law is only from 2018 , give or take a year.
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So, slots, VP, table games, poker are not considered 'wagers' under this law? Poker rooms standardly rake 5-10% of every bet at the table, I could understand if they had to pay 0.25% of every cash game wager. But blackjack or craps would be a nightmare.

If the outcome of a sports wager is a push, does the book actually suffer a loss of 0.25% due to this excise tax?
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Another great question. I would bet not. My books refer to those as ‘voided bets’, not ‘pushes’. Maybe that’s why?
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April 7th, 2023 at 8:01:13 AM permalink
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The government collects a federal excise tax on every sports bet wagered. The issue is that the way the government taxes them doesn't account for free bets.
A new member joins and gets $100 in free bets. He wins $20 and never bets again. The casino lost $20 and has to pay a tax on the entire $100 It is a bookkeeping nightmare. I'm not sure, but I think this law is only from 2018 , give or take a year.
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So, slots, VP, table games, poker are not considered 'wagers' under this law?link to original post


No, they are not.
Title 26, Section 4421(1), United States Code:
"The term “wager” means—
(A) any wager with respect to a sports event or a contest placed with a person engaged in the business of accepting such wagers,
(B) any wager placed in a wagering pool with respect to a sports event or a contest, if such pool is conducted for profit, and
(C) any wager placed in a lottery conducted for profit."
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