why1221
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October 5th, 2022 at 12:35:46 PM permalink
Just based off 99% of the people I see in vegas looking/waiting on slots are asian, just curious if that translates to this forum as well? And if not, how are you competing with these vultures are at the casino everyday all day, and even when you manage to get on a good AP they will run up yelling/fighting and sometimes physically assaulting you? They are also taking photos of machines after a player will get off to share within their own community as well. Seems hard to make trips worthwhile to find anything if they are all going hard 24/7 happy to make whatever wage this is granting them along with their slow onset emphysema... Am I just unlucky to be encountering this as someone who just got into this as an occasional fun hobby-like thing to do on the side? I don't mean for it to, but I suppose it's hard for this post to not come across racist. This is just the pure majority of what I've encountered in 2-3 months of occasional pass-thrus on the strip and they are the only players who have physically/verbally assaulted me over a slot machine. Cheers
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October 5th, 2022 at 12:52:04 PM permalink
I'm absolutely certain most of the posters on this particular forum are white males.
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October 5th, 2022 at 1:17:50 PM permalink
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I'm absolutely certain most of the posters on this particular forum are white males.
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October 5th, 2022 at 1:28:21 PM permalink
Where are these casinos you're seeing mostly Asians in slots? I feel like even in Vegas most slot customers are white. At the Tribal casinos where I live it's mostly white, too. Asians seem to be more into the table games.
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October 5th, 2022 at 1:32:11 PM permalink
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October 5th, 2022 at 1:40:31 PM permalink
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I am white and I will identify as Asian if I need to. Hasn't happened yet, just saying..
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October 5th, 2022 at 2:54:11 PM permalink
I'm Asian and I have yet to run up to, yell, fight, and sometimes physically assault someone in a Las Vegas casino. If I do take photos, this would be the community that I share them with.

Sorry to hear that you've had this kind of bad experience. The next time I'm in Vegas, I'll look for this phenomenon. I don't ever recall seeing this situation.
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October 5th, 2022 at 3:04:25 PM permalink
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I am white and I will identify as Asian if I need to. Hasn't happened yet, just saying..
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Or at least 80% Asian.
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October 5th, 2022 at 3:13:14 PM permalink
The poster is referring to slot vultures.

They are in my neck of the woods mostly Asian as well.

I used to be angry at fellow AP's who made these observations because it seems so racist but I don't know what to tell you. It's literally mostly what I see.

It's 90% Asian and specifically Chinese Asian that gang hit these vulturable machines.

To give an example, I had dinner with a friend and his Filipino wife. The Vultures became an item of discussion and I apologized for stating the Asians are really hogging and ruining the games.

Her reply was telling. "Not Asian. Chinese. I'm Filipino and we don't do that. It's those damn Chinese!"
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October 5th, 2022 at 3:14:13 PM permalink
I have never seen this (granted I don't AP slots and rarely play slots, so the slot crowd may be different, it sounds like most of the negative altercations are fighting over positive slots if I am reading you correctly). In my experience most people who get rowdy in casinos are almost always drunk obnoxious white guys (and to a far lesser extent drunk white girls), I honestly don't recall a negative experience from anyone else (and no I am not saying that to be politically correct).

Though overall people are pretty well behaved in casinos, even the negative experiences are rare. Its kind of surprising considering its a place designed to get you intoxicated in more than one way. But, I think comparing to places with similar masses of people, fighting is far more common at concerts and sports stadiums than casinos. I would imagine that people who work at casinos (especially dealers) probably do experience a lot of negativity and aggression.
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October 5th, 2022 at 3:31:29 PM permalink
Hopefully none of the APs here fault anyone getting the better of them.

As for something that is beyond that, you have to try to film or at least record the sound inside your pocket and show or play it to security. And if they won't do anything send it to the news channels and the casinos lack of response. And if that doesn't work, well, you're out of luck, unless you've got ninjas on standby.
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October 5th, 2022 at 3:31:46 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

The poster is referring to slot vultures.
[snip]
Her reply was telling. "Not Asian. Chinese. I'm Filipino and we don't do that. It's those damn Chinese!"
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Ah, that makes sense.

Let's narrow it down further to Chinese people from China. Chinese-Americans wouldn't do that — we're kind of dumb. have better things to do.
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October 5th, 2022 at 3:45:37 PM permalink
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, I had dinner with a friend and his Filipino wife. The Vultures became an item of discussion and I apologized for stating the Asians are really hogging and ruining the games. Her reply was telling. "Not Asian. Chinese. I'm Filipino and we don't do that. It's those damn Chinese!"





I see a disproportionate amount of Chinese gambling at Ilani, Portland's closest casino.

Ilani expanded its baccarat offerings to keep up with Chinese demand: good grief, where do they get all that money to throw on the felt?
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October 5th, 2022 at 3:47:37 PM permalink
Culture of another country can certainly play into it. For instance, in some countries people standing in an orderly line isn't expected. Everyone crowds up to a counter and they all will walk right in front of you if you leave any space.
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October 5th, 2022 at 3:53:13 PM permalink
There are lurkers at Casinos everywhere, some make their living(and I use that term loosely) by gathering leftover credits on slots without ever playing(unless it's leftover freeplay). You can literally walk around the slots and see 4 cents and 12 cents left on machines in the morning, and then 10 minutes after the buses from China town arrive, those credits are ALL gone!

You can call it greed or survival, but it's all they know and they're not about to change. Just like old prostitutes and criminals, these old dogs can't learn any new tricks.
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October 5th, 2022 at 4:08:03 PM permalink
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Culture of another country can certainly play into it. For instance, in some countries people standing in an orderly line isn't expected. Everyone crowds up to a counter and they all will walk right in front of you if you leave any space.
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Such countries are often classified as third-world or developing. There tends to be an overall lack of orderliness there
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October 5th, 2022 at 4:30:36 PM permalink
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Culture of another country can certainly play into it. For instance, in some countries people standing in an orderly line isn't expected. Everyone crowds up to a counter and they all will walk right in front of you if you leave any space.
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Lol.

In NY if you see six different registers, there are six different lines.

But I have been in other states where there is one long line in the middle and as each register becomes available the next person goes up.

I have seen people from outside NY get angry when New Yorkers pass right by them.and get behind the person being served at the register.

"Hey, mister, there's a line!"

To which the usual NY reply is "There certainly is. Not sure why you are standing over there. The line is here."

Outsiders usually get it when suddenly six more people walk past them and get on each individual line.
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October 5th, 2022 at 6:39:09 PM permalink
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Just based off 99% of the people I see in vegas looking/waiting on slots are asian, just curious if that translates to this forum as well? And if not, how are you competing with these vultures are at the casino everyday all day, and even when you manage to get on a good AP they will run up yelling/fighting and sometimes physically assaulting you?
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I am not what would be traditionally called "Asian", although I did live in Hong Kong long enough to appreciate an effective public transport system.
I think my best MTR play was a HK$9 ride on a 40 cent card, pre-Octopus, pre-1997. I don't think I ever paid escalator fare, because I can walk up a hill.

I play outside Vegas, at off-peak hours, and look for games other than vulture plays.
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October 5th, 2022 at 8:09:15 PM permalink
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Quote: why1221

Just based off 99% of the people I see in vegas looking/waiting on slots are asian, just curious if that translates to this forum as well? And if not, how are you competing with these vultures are at the casino everyday all day, and even when you manage to get on a good AP they will run up yelling/fighting and sometimes physically assaulting you?
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I am not what would be traditionally called "Asian", although I did live in Hong Kong long enough to appreciate an effective public transport system.
I think my best MTR play was a HK$9 ride on a 40 cent card, pre-Octopus, pre-1997. I don't think I ever paid escalator fare, because I can walk up a hill.

I play outside Vegas, at off-peak hours, and look for games other than vulture plays.
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I read your spoiler and have no idea what that means.

Octopus? Escalator fare? MTR?
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October 5th, 2022 at 8:20:16 PM permalink
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Quote: why1221

Just based off 99% of the people I see in vegas looking/waiting on slots are asian, just curious if that translates to this forum as well? And if not, how are you competing with these vultures are at the casino everyday all day, and even when you manage to get on a good AP they will run up yelling/fighting and sometimes physically assaulting you?
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I am not what would be traditionally called "Asian", although I did live in Hong Kong long enough to appreciate an effective public transport system.
I think my best MTR play was a HK$9 ride on a 40 cent card, pre-Octopus, pre-1997. I don't think I ever paid escalator fare, because I can walk up a hill.

I play outside Vegas, at off-peak hours, and look for games other than vulture plays.
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I read your spoiler and have no idea what that means.

Octopus? Escalator fare? MTR?
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MTR is the transit rail (you might say "subway"); Octopus is the new fare card system; and as far as I can remember, one of the escalators charged a fare to ride (turnstile).
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October 5th, 2022 at 9:07:54 PM permalink
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Quote: darkoz

Quote: Dieter

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Just based off 99% of the people I see in vegas looking/waiting on slots are asian, just curious if that translates to this forum as well? And if not, how are you competing with these vultures are at the casino everyday all day, and even when you manage to get on a good AP they will run up yelling/fighting and sometimes physically assaulting you?
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I am not what would be traditionally called "Asian", although I did live in Hong Kong long enough to appreciate an effective public transport system.
I think my best MTR play was a HK$9 ride on a 40 cent card, pre-Octopus, pre-1997. I don't think I ever paid escalator fare, because I can walk up a hill.

I play outside Vegas, at off-peak hours, and look for games other than vulture plays.
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I read your spoiler and have no idea what that means.

Octopus? Escalator fare? MTR?
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MTR is the transit rail (you might say "subway"); Octopus is the new fare card system; and as far as I can remember, one of the escalators charged a fare to ride (turnstile).
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Thanks.

Probably a good time to explain/warn everyone how to ride an escalator in NYC.

But I don't want to hijack so will start a new thread.
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October 6th, 2022 at 2:01:22 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

The poster is referring to slot vultures.

They are in my neck of the woods mostly Asian as well.

I used to be angry at fellow AP's who made these observations because it seems so racist but I don't know what to tell you. It's literally mostly what I see.

It's 90% Asian and specifically Chinese Asian that gang hit these vulturable machines.

To give an example, I had dinner with a friend and his Filipino wife. The Vultures became an item of discussion and I apologized for stating the Asians are really hogging and ruining the games.

Her reply was telling. "Not Asian. Chinese. I'm Filipino and we don't do that. It's those damn Chinese!"
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I have a friend who has a friend with a Filipino wife.
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October 6th, 2022 at 2:38:04 AM permalink
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Quote: darkoz

The poster is referring to slot vultures.

They are in my neck of the woods mostly Asian as well.

I used to be angry at fellow AP's who made these observations because it seems so racist but I don't know what to tell you. It's literally mostly what I see.

It's 90% Asian and specifically Chinese Asian that gang hit these vulturable machines.

To give an example, I had dinner with a friend and his Filipino wife. The Vultures became an item of discussion and I apologized for stating the Asians are really hogging and ruining the games.

Her reply was telling. "Not Asian. Chinese. I'm Filipino and we don't do that. It's those damn Chinese!"
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I have a friend who has a friend with a Filipino wife.
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That freind with the Filipino wife passed away about 18 months ago. So doubtful they are the same person.

But he did know a lot of AP's so you never know.

His first name was Steve.
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October 6th, 2022 at 3:19:57 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Quote: Seedvalue

Quote: darkoz

The poster is referring to slot vultures.

They are in my neck of the woods mostly Asian as well.

I used to be angry at fellow AP's who made these observations because it seems so racist but I don't know what to tell you. It's literally mostly what I see.

It's 90% Asian and specifically Chinese Asian that gang hit these vulturable machines.

To give an example, I had dinner with a friend and his Filipino wife. The Vultures became an item of discussion and I apologized for stating the Asians are really hogging and ruining the games.

Her reply was telling. "Not Asian. Chinese. I'm Filipino and we don't do that. It's those damn Chinese!"
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I have a friend who has a friend with a Filipino wife.
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That freind with the Filipino wife passed away about 18 months ago. So doubtful they are the same person.

But he did know a lot of AP's so you never know.

His first name was Steve.
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Dam man you have had a lot of friends pass away recently. Sorry

No his name is not Steve. I know many white guys in the AP world
With Filipino, and Chinese wives. None named steve
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October 6th, 2022 at 5:37:46 AM permalink
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Quote: darkoz

Quote: Seedvalue

Quote: darkoz

The poster is referring to slot vultures.

They are in my neck of the woods mostly Asian as well.

I used to be angry at fellow AP's who made these observations because it seems so racist but I don't know what to tell you. It's literally mostly what I see.

It's 90% Asian and specifically Chinese Asian that gang hit these vulturable machines.

To give an example, I had dinner with a friend and his Filipino wife. The Vultures became an item of discussion and I apologized for stating the Asians are really hogging and ruining the games.

Her reply was telling. "Not Asian. Chinese. I'm Filipino and we don't do that. It's those damn Chinese!"
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I have a friend who has a friend with a Filipino wife.
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That freind with the Filipino wife passed away about 18 months ago. So doubtful they are the same person.

But he did know a lot of AP's so you never know.

His first name was Steve.
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Dam man you have had a lot of friends pass away recently. Sorry

No his name is not Steve. I know many white guys in the AP world
With Filipino, and Chinese wives. None named steve
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I lost about a dozen friends and family in two years. 2020 and 2021 were just death news after death news.

Causes were Covid, Cancer, botched surgery, overdose, heart attack, crime.

2022 so far my life is back to normal in that department. Not one person I know personally has passed.
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October 6th, 2022 at 6:00:22 AM permalink
Not directly relevant, but the importance of the chinese market is pretty apparent in slot design。
Slot machines often employ Chinese names and themes (金, 双喜/囍 , etc)。
All the eight themed games out there now are evidence of catering to chinese market. 8/八 is lucky in china. 4/四 is unlucky because it sounds like 死 (to die)。

Designers must know something about the market based on these choices, right? There must be a large group of chinese players looking to play. Or a small group with a lot of money.

I am not asian though. 我是白皮猪。
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Interesting! How do you know this much Chinese? I can read it. Another reason might be that these slot machines were actually invented in the casinos in Macau.
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I took mandarin in college. I do not know much. I am HSK2-ish. I review it using apps and watching youtube videos. I know enough to know that most people mispronounce the pinyin on games.

I think some are intended for Chinese domestic market as they have an option for hanzi. Others are all english without even the name in hanzi. The goal there is appealing to Chinese players in the west.
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October 6th, 2022 at 7:17:59 AM permalink
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I am not asian though. 我是白皮猪。
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Interesting! How do you know this much Chinese? I can read it. Another reason might be that these slot machines were actually invented in the casinos in Macau.
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October 6th, 2022 at 11:41:14 AM permalink
I'm not Asian

I'm caucasian

Hop Sing left here

long ago

He's in Macao

playing right now

showing gaijin

how it's done


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October 6th, 2022 at 2:03:40 PM permalink
My hit and run contribution to a topic where the OP has already been banned:

In all my time of playing, Asian table mates have been some of the most wonderful people to play alongside. The worst they ever are is taciturn, which is fine.

That’s about it. Next.
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