No, I'd ask them for a comped room for the night, saying if they don't give it to me I'll take my million, leave, and put it in action at the other casino down the road.
I'd tell them to withhold $200K for taxes and to give me their check for $800K: that way they can't hand me cash then stand around shuffling their feet waiting for an unearned and undeserved tip.
The attendants ignore me when I lose; I ignore then when I win: keeps things in balance.
Tipping on jackpots is more about sharing the wealth/good fortune. Its something that stuck around from the past. It's been established that a tip is to be given, just like it has been established with other stuff, it's a tradition.Quote: rxwineWould you go in and give the casino restaurant waitress or waiter 1% of $1,000,000 also? Why does the job of slot attendant require it?
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Way back when... a 1000+ jackpot was hard to come by(most machines were set to hand-pay lower than 1200) It would have probably meant you were doing well.
Also, there is a good chance the person paying you was the person that sold you your coins or even showed you a "good machine" to play, offered you a win-loss statement entry, etc. Evrything usually came with a more personable experience.
Poker dealers tip boxes were oftentimes their shirt pocket. Either way, should you tip them? If the slot attendant was getting min wag, should you tip them? One may play at a bar and not order a drink, if the bartender pays you the jackpot, should you tip him? Poker room management are allowed to take tips at some locations.Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: AxelWolfAnd if a slot attendant is being paied min wage they should be tipped? And if a dealer is being paied more than min they shouldnt be tipped? What if a poker room mannager is sitting in for a dealer should you now not tipp him or tipp less since he mkes mannagment wages?link to original postQuote: AZDuffmanOn a slot win the tip should be $0.
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You tip a dealer because they are paid the "waitress minimum" and are doing some actual service. A slot attendant is neither, to tip them is to tip the bank teller.
I doubt the slot manager is being paid minimum as it is not a regular tipped job.
Dealers are a tipped position.
The poker room manager I only saw happen once. Was not my table but IIRC he was just filling in for a break so probably did not have a tip box. A management employee taking tips like that creates a few issues.link to original post
Quote: AxelWolf[ Poker dealers tip boxes were oftentimes their shirt pocket. Either way, should you tip them? If the slot attendant was getting min wag, should you tip them? One may play at a bar and not order a drink, if the bartender pays you the jackpot, should you tip him? Poker room management are allowed to take tips at some locations.
I believe they need to have a box because they have to declare tips at the end of the shift. A shirt pocket is too small in most cases. Yes, you should tip them as they are paid waitress minimum. Other way is more rake taken per pot. System is what it is.
No, you do not tip a bartender for a hand pay, but who sits at the bar playing not drinking?
How about for a Megabucks win of $15M? Does it scale linearly? If it's $1000 for $1M, is it $15,000 for $15M?
Quote: MichaelBluejayThanks everyone for the replies.
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How about for a Megabucks win of $15M? Does it scale linearly? If it's $1000 for $1M, is it $15,000 for $15M?
Those are paid off over decades.
Think of it this way…. you can give $5k to share amongst 50 dealers, only 1 of whom you even interacted with, or give that $5k to the Dog Rescue Center, or Home for Battered Women, or COVID vaccine outreach group, or Books for the Poor, etc…
I guess I think too concretely. Once I’ve won the $700k it’s part of my overall net worth. I still hope I consider what to do with $5k of MY money the same if worth $700k more than I was the day before.
Quote: SOOPOOIf you tip a waiter he gets the majority of your tip. Maybe he has to share a percentage with the busboys, assistant waiter, etc. if you tip a dealer you are just adding to a pay pool of which the guy you want to tip gets a small percentage.
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Think of it this way…. you can give $5k to share amongst 50 dealers, only 1 of whom you even interacted with, or give that $5k to the Dog Rescue Center, or Home for Battered Women, or COVID vaccine outreach group, or Books for the Poor, etc…
I guess I think too concretely. Once I’ve won the $700k it’s part of my overall net worth. I still hope I consider what to do with $5k of MY money the same if worth $700k more than I was the day before.
I hope everybody besides me tips ridiculously large. I want the dealers to make big money but I am not supplying it.
what does this have to do with the topic of this thread? (slot winnings)Quote: ChumpChangeI didn't tip the Post Office so the local Post Office spent one minute misdirecting my Amazon package to 120 miles away this morning and now it's delayed.
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thread hijack?
From: 0.5% to 1%
To: $20 up to $20k jackpots; 0.1% after that
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I'd still like to hear thoughts on how much to tip on a $15M win. While 0.1% on a $1M win would be $1000, which is the median that people suggested here on a $1M win, 0.1% on $15M would be $15k. Really? That's more than I make in a week!
Quote: Mission146On a 15M win? One. Million. Dollars. (Total, though)
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You can afford to tip generously, Dr. Evil.
Given the current market price for these novelties, I'm kicking myself for not buying straps and straps back when they were common.
I recall reading that Kerry Packer paid off a dealer's house payment as a tip.
Majority of the slot channels use this option where available. The only ones who don’t are those who want to look like big shots….so they film the slot attendant reeling off $100 bills into their palms. I guess it builds excitement…and viewership.
Las Vegas Advisor, while noting that the historical record is incomplete, says it knows ofseveral ≥$100k tips.Quote: MrVI recall reading that Kerry Packer paid off a dealer's house payment as a tip.
But returning to the question, what's an appropriate tip for a $15M Megabucks jackpot win?
Quote: MichaelBluejayLas Vegas Advisor, while noting that the historical record is incomplete, says it knows ofseveral ≥$100k tips.
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But returning to the question, what's an appropriate tip for a $15M Megabucks jackpot win?
That's an annuity, right? Can you break off a piece of an annuity to automatically go to someone?
Quote: MichaelBluejayBased on the the responses to this thread, and some practical math, I'm revising my Tipping Guide recommendation for hand pays:
From: 0.5% to 1%
To: $20 up to $20k jackpots; 0.1% after that
So that's a $20 tip no matter the amount of the handpay for jackpots between $1,200 and $20,000. If the jackpot is $25,000, multiply by 0.1% and give a green chip. If the jackpot is $50,000, give 2 green chips. If the jackpot is $500,000, give 5 black chips.
Giving $500 on 500k will be meet with about the same criticism as leaving zero. If you leave zero they might just think you didn't know any better.Quote: ChumpChangeQuote: MichaelBluejayBased on the the responses to this thread, and some practical math, I'm revising my Tipping Guide recommendation for hand pays:
From: 0.5% to 1%
To: $20 up to $20k jackpots; 0.1% after that
So that's a $20 tip no matter the amount of the handpay for jackpots between $1,200 and $20,000. If the jackpot is $25,000, multiply by 0.1% and give a green chip. If the jackpot is $50,000, give 2 green chips. If the jackpot is $500,000, give 5 black chips.link to original post
I would probably give $1500 + on 500k. I guess it would depend on the situation.
Quote:At this juncture, we usually get the question, “So, what’s the appropriate amount to tip?”
The answer is a trap, of course, as there’s no amount that’s going to satisfy everyone. It’s not a set amount, and while some suggest a percentage of the big win, that’s rather absurd as the gratuity could be outragious.
Scott once again showing how worthless his opinions are. No one is asking for an answer that will satisfy everyone, only an answer that will satisfy you. Nor is anyone asking for a set amount, a range applicable to this example would suffice. Refusing to do that, while shaming people for tipping too small is a very trashy thing to do.
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My thought on what I might do on a $1 million jackpot. Give $100 to the slot tech who pays me. Then another $1,000 spread around to others, trying to look for people who generally don't get tips, like the cleaning crew. If it was a place I go to regularly, it would be $2,000 to people who I like seeing. If it was a place where I've been backed off of, I would tell the team that pays me "I would like to use this million to make some more bets. If you let me know how I can get my limits restored, I'll give you $5,000". Then when my limits on certain bets remain $0, I would tip $0.
So call it a range of $0 to $2,200.
Isn’t tipping in this case more “forced” than anything? I can see tipping a dealer…but a slot attendant is merely a conduit for you to get your money.
I’m not suggesting not to tip…do as you please. I’m merely suggesting it might not make sense beyond an “obligation” factor of some kind.
Quote: ChumpChangeDegenerate Powerball Players will be buying $100 in lottery tickets. What really sucks about visiting the lottery offices hours away is transportation. Do you go to your local police station and ask for a ride and hope they don't murder you and steal the ticket on the way if you have no other way to get there?
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I believe many lottery offices have a claim by mail option. Registered mail is suggested.
Well, I'm actually a big fan of Vital Vegas, but I agree with you that if he's gonna chastise someone for not tipping enough, he really ought to say how much he thought should have been tipped. I said as much in the comments section after the article, and he replied, "You're not my mom." (I replied, "You don't know that.")Quote: TomGScott once again showing how worthless his opinions are.
I like my new advice: $20 for up to $20k payoff, 0.1% above that. That results in a reasonable tip on amounts up to $1M or so. But I'm not sure a $15k tip is warranted on a $15M Megabucks win. So, keep those opinions coming!
Quote: MichaelBluejayI'm not sure a $15k tip is warranted on a $15M Megabucks win. So, keep those opinions coming!
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It probably is, if they're handing you $15M today (in cash & checks).
It probably is not, if they're handing you $500k today, and doing a bunch of paperwork to get you another annual payout for the next several years.
Tip today on what you're paid today.
$5000 = $50-150
$25,000 = $250
$100,000 = $1000
$1 million = $1000
$15 million = I might jack it to $5-10,000.
But I almost never play slots, so it's probably moot.
Jackpot | Tip |
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$1,200 | $20.00 |
$2,000 | $60.00 |
$3,000 | $87.18 |
$4,000 | $107.70 |
$5,000 | $124.90 |
$10,000 | $188.68 |
$15,000 | $235.80 |
$20,000 | $274.95 |
$25,000 | $309.19 |
$50,000 | $442.27 |
$100,000 | $628.97 |
$1,000,000 | $1,998.90 |
$15,000,000 | $7,745.68 |
Of course, round up/down as you see fit and consider the level of service as so forth.
How much does the casino charge to wire the winnings to your bank account? $30 by the casino & $30 by the bank receiving it?
There might be a $100,000 per day limit on transfers.
It's not unreasonable, but it's a bit difficult for my readers to apply. $20 up to $20k and then 0.1% after that is a lot easier. I just worry that that probably overtips for amounts over $1M.Quote: WizardWhat do you think of this formula: tip = 2*sqrt(jackpot-1100).
Chop the tip amount in half and I think it's a fair formula for both.Quote: WizardWhat do you think of this formula: tip = 2*sqrt(jackpot-1100). This was designed to get close to $20 for $1200 and $2000 for a million. Here are some examples of tips by jackpot:
Jackpot Tip $1,200 $20.00 $2,000 $60.00 $3,000 $87.18 $4,000 $107.70 $5,000 $124.90 $10,000 $188.68 $15,000 $235.80 $20,000 $274.95 $25,000 $309.19 $50,000 $442.27 $100,000 $628.97 $1,000,000 $1,998.90 $15,000,000 $7,745.68
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Quote: AxelWolfChop the tip amount in half and I think it's a fair formula for both.
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$10 for $1200, I think, will look cheap.
Quote: MichaelBluejayIt's not unreasonable, but it's a bit difficult for my readers to apply. $20 up to $20k and then 0.1% after that is a lot easier. I just worry that that probably overtips for amounts over $1M.
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$20 for $20,000 will definitely look cheap. However, I accept some people may struggle with calculating a square root.
Quote: WizardQuote: AxelWolfChop the tip amount in half and I think it's a fair formula for both.
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$10 for $1200, I think, will look cheap.Quote: MichaelBluejayIt's not unreasonable, but it's a bit difficult for my readers to apply. $20 up to $20k and then 0.1% after that is a lot easier. I just worry that that probably overtips for amounts over $1M.
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$20 for $20,000 will definitely look cheap. However, I accept some people may struggle with calculating a square root.link to original post
What is the difference? They are a cashier! Tipping the hand pay reminds me of how it used to be "expected" to tip your bookie 100 of the 600-1 you got when your number hit. Unlike a dealer, providing you with a game, the hand-pay is actually an inconvenience to the player.
A line has to be drawn.
Quote: AZDuffmanUnlike a dealer, providing you with a game, the hand-pay is actually an inconvenience to the player.
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A line has to be drawn.
I remember that one time, the attendant apologized for a handpay and declined a tip. The machine misconfiguration caused a handpay lockup over a $250.00 win.
I found the experience to be simultaneously annoying and hilarious.
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I remember that one time, the attendant apologized for a handpay and declined a tip. The machine misconfiguration caused a handpay lockup over a $250.00 win.
I found the experience to be simultaneously annoying and hilarious.
I would not hold anything against the attendant there, file it under just one of those things.
I don't think $10 on $1,200 looks cheap, nor does it say generous. It's satisfactory, and I doubt any non greedy slot person would't be appreciative.Quote: WizardQuote: AxelWolfChop the tip amount in half and I think it's a fair formula for both.
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$10 for $1200, I think, will look cheap.Quote: MichaelBluejayIt's not unreasonable, but it's a bit difficult for my readers to apply. $20 up to $20k and then 0.1% after that is a lot easier. I just worry that that probably overtips for amounts over $1M.
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$20 for $20,000 will definitely look cheap. However, I accept some people may struggle with calculating a square root.link to original post
Yes, $20 on 20k is cheap I think it would be better for the customer to just give nothing in that case.
The problem is that you guys are trying to come up with a standard formula when there are too many variables. Your formulas haven't adresses situations where someone is getting frequent hand pays. Image being a VP pro and tipping out $400-$900+ a month.
For me, it's basically the cost of doing business, however, at this point I would tip either way.Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: WizardQuote: AxelWolfChop the tip amount in half and I think it's a fair formula for both.
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$10 for $1200, I think, will look cheap.Quote: MichaelBluejayIt's not unreasonable, but it's a bit difficult for my readers to apply. $20 up to $20k and then 0.1% after that is a lot easier. I just worry that that probably overtips for amounts over $1M.
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$20 for $20,000 will definitely look cheap. However, I accept some people may struggle with calculating a square root.link to original post
What is the difference? They are a cashier! Tipping the hand pay reminds me of how it used to be "expected" to tip your bookie 100 of the 600-1 you got when your number hit. Unlike a dealer, providing you with a game, the hand-pay is actually an inconvenience to the player.
A line has to be drawn.link to original post
Everyone has to draw their own line when it comes to all tipping. I'm highly opposed to tipping 18% on expensive meals, unless I'm in a group setting, I usually tip less.
Some of the joints back in the day had a policy that anyone in the slot department who could accept tips was not allowed to decline a tip. Management was afraid it might offend a customer.Quote: DieterQuote: AZDuffmanUnlike a dealer, providing you with a game, the hand-pay is actually an inconvenience to the player.
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A line has to be drawn.
I remember that one time, the attendant apologized for a handpay and declined a tip. The machine misconfiguration caused a handpay lockup over a $250.00 win.
I found the experience to be simultaneously annoying and hilarious.link to original post
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Everyone has to draw their own line when it comes to all tipping. I'm highly opposed to tipping 18% on expensive meals, unless I'm in a group setting, I usually tip less.
I go 15-20% at a restaurant depending on if 15% ends up being less than say $1 and also on how good the service was. But I do not tip if I have to order at the counter. To tip a slot attendant just seems to make no sense.
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Everyone has to draw their own line when it comes to all tipping. I'm highly opposed to tipping 18% on expensive meals, unless I'm in a group setting, I usually tip less.
I go 15-20% at a restaurant depending on if 15% ends up being less than say $1 and also on how good the service was. But I do not tip if I have to order at the counter. To tip a slot attendant just seems to make no sense.link to original post
What restaurants are you going to where 15% of your meal is less than a $1? I am guessing that you are not getting the steak and lobster.
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Everyone has to draw their own line when it comes to all tipping. I'm highly opposed to tipping 18% on expensive meals, unless I'm in a group setting, I usually tip less.
I go 15-20% at a restaurant depending on if 15% ends up being less than say $1 and also on how good the service was. But I do not tip if I have to order at the counter. To tip a slot attendant just seems to make no sense.link to original post
What restaurants are you going to where 15% of your meal is less than a $1? I am guessing that you are not getting the steak and lobster.link to original post
Guess I should have said <$2.
I've sometimes gotten that when tipping dealers at low-roller casinos where almost nobody else tips at all. Once at the Western when I tipped a dealer, she was confused about what I was doing, because nobody had ever tipped her before.Quote: billryanI handed the woman three ten dollar bills and told her to keep the change. Her face absolutely lit up and her response was very satisfying.
Here's my proposed revision:
$1200: $20 tip
$1201-4999: $50
$5000-9999: $75
$10k-99k: $100
$100k-499k: $200
$500k-999k: $500
$1M+: $1000
This isn't by any means perfect, but I think perfection is impossible. I'm trying hard to balance simplicity, practicality, and fairness. There's no schedule that will satisfy all three well, so this might be the best I can do.
But to mention an obvious problem: $20 for $1200, but $50 for $1201. Again, I don't see a good way around that. But I'm open to suggestions.
Quote: MichaelBluejayI've sometimes gotten that when tipping dealers at low-roller casinos where almost nobody else tips at all. Once at the Western when I tipped a dealer, she was confused about what I was doing, because nobody had ever tipped her before.
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1991/92. Somewhere near Cooksville Tennessee.
My friend and I want to watch Summer Slam so the bartender at the AMVETs calls another place to see if they are showing it. He tells them he is sending over two people. We get there and am told it is a private club and we need buy a one day membership for $5. We hesitate a bit until we are told that includes two bottled beers. We pay and go inside this cavernous room that is surprisingly full. My friend goes to find seats and I go to the bar to order drinks. Saving the tickets for later I pay cash for the two beers. The bartender puts the beers and my change on the bar and I walk away, leaving the two dollars and change as a tip. A minute or two later, a girl comes up and says the bartender wants to talk to me.
I get up there and he points at the money and says you left your money on the bar. I'm a bit puzzled and say it was a tip for you. He gets all agitated and leans over the bar and tells me if I want to tip him, be a man and hand it directly to him. That just leaving money and walking away was insulting and how anybody could have just picked up the money, blah, blah, blah. I thanked him, picked up the money and ordered from the waitress the rest of the night. She was very happy to take my tips.
$1200: $20 tip
$1201-4999: $50
$5000-9999: $75
$10k-99k: $100
$100k-499k: $200
$500k-999k: $500
$1M+: $1000