MrV
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April 11th, 2018 at 9:56:48 AM permalink
I asked a slot tech I was chatting with at a tribal casino in Oregon what their slots payout percentage was, and the tech floored me with the answer: "82%."

That's about ten percentage points or so below the Las Vegas average and below the pay out on the Oregon state video / lottery slots found in taverns.

Jesus wept, as did the patrons of the casino.
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MaxPen
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April 11th, 2018 at 9:59:56 AM permalink
Yet there were people playing.
MrV
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April 11th, 2018 at 10:52:45 AM permalink
Yes, blithely unaware of the Herculean obstacle in front of them.

Wow, "hope springs eternal," I suppose.

82% though is just beyond obscene, and way, way too greedy.
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michael99000
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April 11th, 2018 at 11:03:49 AM permalink
Not sure but I believe the Pennsylvania slots are even worse. I asked a pit manager why and he said itís due to the tax rate on casinos in that state
TigerWu
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April 11th, 2018 at 11:22:27 AM permalink
Doesn't surprise me. Most tribal casinos have terrible games and odds. At least in my experience.
FleaStiff
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April 11th, 2018 at 11:40:59 AM permalink
When there is no "authority" to contact, there is not much use in giving into rumors or guesses.

Some tribes have some 'rubber stamp' authority, some tribes just say 'mind your own business, paleface'.

The best thing is to remember that slot machine manufacturers really have only TWO markets. One is the State of Nevada, the other market is Anywhere Else.

ALL machines are designed for Nevada. Chip are designed and tested for Nevada.

Paperwork requirements in Nevada are strict. Not so in other jurisdictions. However no one is going to develop a separate chip. The lowest one that Nevada allows is the 'floor' for other jurisdictions.

Look into the used machine market. Ship something out of Nevada and install it in London, it will need "Localization" such as signage changes and sound alterations to make sure nothing approximates the sound of a 'Bobby's Whistle', a legally defined sound pattern that can not be duplicated by any device in the UK. However, no one will create a chip .. the choice if from the existing chips which will be sent with the machines.

In Vegas, competition forces payouts to be rather high and well over the state minimum settings.
In other areas, local conditions apply. In some areas laws are complex. A slot machine in Northern Ireland is subject to two different sets of UK laws.

If you look at the ads for used slots and shipping manifests you will see that usually the machine and the entire range of chipsets are sent and the new owner of the slot machine will make whatever choice he chooses to make in his jurisdiction.

Slot technician training is a grown industry in the US and perhaps abroad also. Yet no slot tech, even when sloshed to the gills, is going to be a reliable source of information.
Hunterhill
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April 11th, 2018 at 1:09:00 PM permalink
Quote: michael99000

Not sure but I believe the Pennsylvania slots are even worse. I asked a pit manager why and he said itís due to the tax rate on casinos in that state


Pennsylvania law is 85% minimum
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MrV
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April 11th, 2018 at 1:39:43 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Yet no slot tech, even when sloshed to the gills, is going to be a reliable source of information.



Why do you say that?

One would suspect the tech had access to the underlying data and knew the payout percentage.
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billryan
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April 11th, 2018 at 2:31:06 PM permalink
I wouldn't. There are an awful lot of former slot techs out there. If they all knew, it wouldn't be a secret.
onenickelmiracle
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April 11th, 2018 at 2:32:07 PM permalink
If they're really all 82%, seems the casino would be quite full of people constantly complaining. I don't see how they wouldn't be miserable most of the time being there only because it's close and convenient.
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