Quote: rsactuaryQuote: MrVQuote: Mission146I don't know that NJ Slot Guy, 'Reports,' anything, but a fair amount of his videos are just total massacres.[
I enjoy several slot channels,esp. The Slot Museum, a super high limit old school slot site.
The guy often loses a lot and doesn't whine much about it, he just puts in another ten grand.
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The slot museum is playing games in his basement. These are set to the highest returns and he's not losing anything....
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I used to have video poker games in my office that I gaffed to hit Royals on demand and of course I could add credits any time that I wanted without putting money in. I am guessing almost everyone who has programmed video poker has done that.
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I used to have video poker games in my office that I gaffed to hit Royals on demand and of course I could add credits any time that I wanted without putting money in. I am guessing almost everyone who has programmed video poker has done that.
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Do you recall which manufacturer made your VP machine?
On my IGT machine, the best I can do is set some slot machine games to Tournament Mode and get 300% payback!
https://cdcgaming.com/social-media-influencers-find-increasing-acceptance-from-gaming-industry/
According to El Cortez General Manager Adam Wiesberg, the downtown Las Vegas casino and hotel was the first in Vegas to allow livestreams from table games, which started five years ago. The El Cortez has rules for filming posted on its website, including gaming prior approval, only showing gameplay, and no use of equipment beyond cell phones or small cameras. The hotel and casino also asks that influencers refrain from using off color, political or controversial comments.
Filming also is limited to slots except for special approval provided to select influencers.
“We continue to be one of the premier locations for influencers to create gaming content,” Wiesberg says via email. “There are challenges to allowing filming in the casino, but we’ve found that it does help with brand exposure and it provides a great organic marketing platform. It requires oversight and hands-on management, but we feel it’s worth it.”
I think Victor is definitely off color and can be controversial, but apparently all those followers allow him to break the rules. The Kofflers are not a great example, they clearly don't post all of their play and are not doing so on the budget of a teacher (Jamie owned a car dealership according to public records). Aside from the aforementioned Jackpot Gents, few do a true accounting of their costs in playing.
Quote: rsactuaryThe slot museum is playing games in his basement. These are set to the highest returns and he's not losing anything....
True 'dat.
I still enjoy watching, real or not.
Like Avatar: fun to watch but I know it isn't real.
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I used to have video poker games in my office that I gaffed to hit Royals on demand and of course I could add credits any time that I wanted without putting money in. I am guessing almost everyone who has programmed video poker has done that.
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Do you recall which manufacturer made your VP machine?
On my IGT machine, the best I can do is set some slot machine games to Tournament Mode and get 300% payback!
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This wasn't a case of the settings, I was actually doing the programming on them so I had special chips that I programmed.
Quote: calwatchAside from the aforementioned Jackpot Gents, few do a true accounting of their costs in playing.
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At the beginning of 2023, Lady Luck HQ posted her year-end win/loss report. I saved it somewhere, but can't find it now. She's down thousands, likely tens of thousands. Apologies for not quoting the actual numbers. But I found it admirable that she disclosed her loss.
does that include her income from her YouTube channel?Quote: smoothgrhQuote: calwatchAside from the aforementioned Jackpot Gents, few do a true accounting of their costs in playing.
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At the beginning of 2023, Lady Luck HQ posted her year-end win/loss report. I saved it somewhere, but can't find it now. She's down thousands, likely tens of thousands. Apologies for not quoting the actual numbers. But I found it admirable that she disclosed her loss.
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Quote: calwatchThought this was an interesting article about "slot influencers", interesting comment from El Cortez management:
https://cdcgaming.com/social-media-influencers-find-increasing-acceptance-from-gaming-industry/
According to El Cortez General Manager Adam Wiesberg, the downtown Las Vegas casino and hotel was the first in Vegas to allow livestreams from table games, which started five years ago. The El Cortez has rules for filming posted on its website, including gaming prior approval, only showing gameplay, and no use of equipment beyond cell phones or small cameras. The hotel and casino also asks that influencers refrain from using off color, political or controversial comments.
Filming also is limited to slots except for special approval provided to select influencers.
“We continue to be one of the premier locations for influencers to create gaming content,” Wiesberg says via email. “There are challenges to allowing filming in the casino, but we’ve found that it does help with brand exposure and it provides a great organic marketing platform. It requires oversight and hands-on management, but we feel it’s worth it.”
I think Victor is definitely off color and can be controversial, but apparently all those followers allow him to break the rules. The Kofflers are not a great example, they clearly don't post all of their play and are not doing so on the budget of a teacher (Jamie owned a car dealership according to public records). Aside from the aforementioned Jackpot Gents, few do a true accounting of their costs in playing.
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I don't think they should have a duty to strict financial transparency. I'd just like some yes/no questions made clear in the about section of videos:
-Are you playing with your own money?
-Do you get rebates from the casino?
-Does the casino directly compensate you, monetarily or otherwise, as a result of streaming there?
-Do you know if you get any comps, based on play levels, that someone with that same amount of play who is not streaming would not get?
-In a bubble, do you profit off of the gambling by itself? (This will almost always be a no.)
And, for the channels that only show winning sessions---start showing your losing sessions as well. I don't think it's good for recreational, perhaps only once or twice a year casino visitors, to see nothing but winning all the time.
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-Are you playing with your own money?
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I remember back when Sarah would stream and people would ask, and with an exhaustive and annoying eye roll say things like "everyone say it with me, YES I'm playing with my own money". For someone who made a living off streaming I've never seen someone with such an attitude. Not sure how she can expect that every single person watching watches all the time and should know.
That said, I realize she was most likely not in love with streaming.
But what I think is important is your follow up question of basically does the casino compensate you/rebate you? I assume they are sure playing with their own money but leaving out the disclaimer that they get a big chunk or all of their losses back. "Yes its my money... that the casino gave me back".
Quote: 100xOddsdoes that include her income from her YouTube channel?Quote: smoothgrhQuote: calwatchAside from the aforementioned Jackpot Gents, few do a true accounting of their costs in playing.
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At the beginning of 2023, Lady Luck HQ posted her year-end win/loss report. I saved it somewhere, but can't find it now. She's down thousands, likely tens of thousands. Apologies for not quoting the actual numbers. But I found it admirable that she disclosed her loss.
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Here's her 2021 win/loss statement, but not surprisingly, no YouTube income mentioned: https://youtu.be/DjqcnSZrNeA?t=568
I hope they're rolling in YouTube dough because they're not from slots!
It seems that very few can make a good living from it, and most flame out.
Oops.
ironically after I click the link for the video,the next video up was titled how much I made from YouTube in one month showing her holding a suitcase full of bundle of moneyQuote: smoothgrhQuote: 100xOddsdoes that include her income from her YouTube channel?Quote: smoothgrhQuote: calwatchAside from the aforementioned Jackpot Gents, few do a true accounting of their costs in playing.
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At the beginning of 2023, Lady Luck HQ posted her year-end win/loss report. I saved it somewhere, but can't find it now. She's down thousands, likely tens of thousands. Apologies for not quoting the actual numbers. But I found it admirable that she disclosed her loss.
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Here's her 2021 win/loss statement, but not surprisingly, no YouTube income mentioned: https://youtu.be/DjqcnSZrNeA?t=568
I hope they're rolling in YouTube dough because they're not from slots!
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Quote: MrVI gotta think that many people go into slot streaming for the same reason some go into AP: they love to gamble and want to get something "extra" out of it.
It seems that very few can make a good living from it, and most flame out.
Oops.
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There are many Vegas travel youtubers who turned to slot channels. I think they did it because making relevant content is a lot of work, and there's only so much they can cover for Vegas. Everything has been tried, reported, and put on youtube. The slot segments are easy, lazy, and something different every time. They're just trying to get views so that they can make money from youtube.
Assuming they dont pay for clicks or have a significant production cost
according to one of her previous videos, they are making around 300k a year.
I like that she said, "unless they hit somthing super big they will always have a losing year on the slots."
Quote: AxelWolfThey almost certainly have to be getting free play and using that or somthing, because it's hard to imagine they are only losing about 6.5% on slots.
Assuming they dont pay for clicks or have a significant production cost
according to one of her previous videos, they are making around 300k a year.
I like that she said, "unless they hit somthing super big they will always have a losing year on the slots."
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Of all coin in with some of the action being high-limit slots?
Also, the W/L report has a line item for, "Coin-out," so I agree on the Free Play which would eventually translate to, "Coin-Out," in many of these cases.
If I had to guess, ignoring Free Play, the loss is probably 8-10% of all coin in.
Brian "Brian Christopher" Mifsud has admitted to being paid to play in some video with where he was discussing casino marketing (that fat guy from new jersey that tracks youtube slots drama showed it). He mentioned that casinos track his players' coin in, which justifies his appearance fee. Mifsud is selling cruises so he is at least getting an affiliate fee there as well. His videos list the casino as "partner", which is not sufficient according to the 'tube or the ftc when it comes to paid ads, but more than the majority of other "influencers" are doing. Other players are featured on casino websites and tell viewers to mention their name when signing up for a rewards card. They are clearly getting a finder's fee.
Casinos may not be handing these players a load of chips when they walk through the door, but the big names are being compensated to make content from these casinos and they are not disclosing this fact. Any channel that is somewhat big and claims not to be getting paid is either dumb or lying.
I am not against people getting paid to promote a casino, but this should be very clear as they are telling people to visit these properties. Everything is amazing in an advertisement.
The specific question that needs to be asked of these influencers and casinos is whether or not influencers are being compensated to make videos. If the answer is yes, the next question is why is this not being disclosed.
Quote: SiegfriedRoyQuote: MrVI gotta think that many people go into slot streaming for the same reason some go into AP: they love to gamble and want to get something "extra" out of it.
It seems that very few can make a good living from it, and most flame out.
Oops.
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There are many Vegas travel youtubers who turned to slot channels. I think they did it because making relevant content is a lot of work, and there's only so much they can cover for Vegas. Everything has been tried, reported, and put on youtube. The slot segments are easy, lazy, and something different every time. They're just trying to get views so that they can make money from youtube.
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There is more money in slots than casino buffet reviews. Not that huge channels can dump out three videos per day and get 100k views on each. Very little work for a large potential reward if you can get noticed over the competition.
How much would it cost to buy a slot filled with various modern games to play HIGH limit in my basement ($25+/spin)?Quote: calwatchJackpot Gents
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Getting all those views at 0% loss = I want to copy :)
What costs and effort goes into getting views? I don't imagine it's as simple as...If you build it, they will come. Initially, I would think you would have to find a way to get them to your channel.Quote: 100xOddsHow much would it cost to buy a slot filled with various modern games to play in my basement?Quote: calwatchJackpot Gents
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Getting all those views at 0% loss = I want to copy :)
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Perhaps I'm wrong and YouTube does a good job suggesting your video to the right people, I haven't any idea how all that works.
Sounds healthy.
When Sarah stopped doing videos I was certain the channel would tank as I assumed 99% of the guys would stop sending super chats but I was very very wrong.
Pretty amusing because clearly Vic hates playing with him. Just bitter the entire time.
Quote: SkittleCar1I love when the "throws" a $50 tip at the dealer. Very disrespectful the way he treats them.
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I thought I was the only one that noticed that. Yeah, I don't like that either. And it's not just the tip, it's anytime he wants change as well. Very disrespectful considering what the El Cortez is doing for him.
This is a common story where a player *always* sees all 7 cards. A good poker player will always fold 6-9 offsuit, but in UTH there is no folding for dealer!* When playing regular poker, I sometimes barely develop a straight at all, perhaps play none in showdown.Quote: SkittleCar1Brutal
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* a player may never bet, sometimes, but even he still sees all 7 cards
Exactly!Quote: smoothgrhThis is kind of like Hart Race Hold'em in that you might have pocket aces, "Kevin Hart" goes all-in with 6-9, and he sucks out a straight — and it feels like it's rigged!
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even worse, goes all in with 4-9, say, which themselves cannot form the same straight, and Hart hits a straight to beat your trips using just one card
Plus the side bets have to be killing him. He has a bad pay schedule for 3CP pair plus and the 6 card and he’s putting $100 or more combined on those every hand.
Quote: rsactuaryThanks to some of the gifted memberships, I was able to watch his exclusive live stream last night. He was on a heater and filmed for 3 hours. Ended up about $8000.
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Do you happen to know if you need to do anything to be eligible for a gifted membership? I subscribe to the channel but nothing else. I’m surprised I haven’t received a gifted subscription yet but maybe there’s a setting I’m missing.
Quote: rsactuaryThanks to some of the gifted memberships, I was able to watch his exclusive live stream last night. He was on a heater and filmed for 3 hours. Ended up about $8000.
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Probably losing it all on a gas station VP machine right now.
Quote: ams288Vic doesn’t have the worst luck ever.
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"I have the worst luck." - Victor
......gambles for a living and isn't bankrupt yet.
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Do you happen to know if you need to do anything to be eligible for a gifted membership? I subscribe to the channel but nothing else. I’m surprised I haven’t received a gifted subscription yet but maybe there’s a setting I’m missing.
Yeah, you have to turn on acceptance of gifts. On the channel home page, you'll see the "join" button. Click that, and then in the top right hand corner of the page, you'll see three vertical dots. Click on that and you'll see some sort of option to accepts gifts... can't remember the exact wording.
He may youtube/influence or whatever you call it for a living, but he isn't gambling for a living.Quote: SkittleCar1Quote: ams288Vic doesn’t have the worst luck ever.
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"I have the worst luck." - Victor
......gambles for a living and isn't bankrupt yet.
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Unless walking away causes him to play less overall, I can't see how or why that would matter.Quote: ams288and he doesn’t know how to walk away when he is having a truly awful session
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Do you happen to know if you need to do anything to be eligible for a gifted membership? I subscribe to the channel but nothing else. I’m surprised I haven’t received a gifted subscription yet but maybe there’s a setting I’m missing.
Yeah, you have to turn on acceptance of gifts. On the channel home page, you'll see the "join" button. Click that, and then in the top right hand corner of the page, you'll see three vertical dots. Click on that and you'll see some sort of option to accepts gifts... can't remember the exact wording.
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Does that one guy still gift like 50 memberships per stream?
Quote: rsactuaryQuote: TinMan
Do you happen to know if you need to do anything to be eligible for a gifted membership? I subscribe to the channel but nothing else. I’m surprised I haven’t received a gifted subscription yet but maybe there’s a setting I’m missing.
Yeah, you have to turn on acceptance of gifts. On the channel home page, you'll see the "join" button. Click that, and then in the top right hand corner of the page, you'll see three vertical dots. Click on that and you'll see some sort of option to accepts gifts... can't remember the exact wording.
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Thank you. It was a bit confusing, but your directions helped. The turn on gifts option didn't come up at first but eventually did.
Quote: ams288Quote: rsactuaryQuote: TinMan
Do you happen to know if you need to do anything to be eligible for a gifted membership? I subscribe to the channel but nothing else. I’m surprised I haven’t received a gifted subscription yet but maybe there’s a setting I’m missing.
Yeah, you have to turn on acceptance of gifts. On the channel home page, you'll see the "join" button. Click that, and then in the top right hand corner of the page, you'll see three vertical dots. Click on that and you'll see some sort of option to accepts gifts... can't remember the exact wording.
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Does that one guy still gift like 50 memberships per stream?
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I think so... he used to do that on Friday before the exclusive stream, but now they're on Sundays and Tuesdays. Didn't see him gifting on Sunday night. There's actually two of them that seem to battle back and forth.
About to watch his exclusive stream.
https://youtube.com/shorts/cJzGvEGIgkM?feature=share