He said it is his money and it’s real gambling.
I thought you mentioned some time ago you had blocked that channel and unsubscribed. I guess you had a change of heart?Quote: ams288Someone came up to Victor at the beginning of tonight’s stream and asked if he was playing with his own money or getting paid by the casino.
He said it is his money and it’s real gambling.
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Quote: avianrandyI thought you mentioned some time ago you had blocked that channel and unsubscribed. I guess you had a change of heart?Quote: ams288Someone came up to Victor at the beginning of tonight’s stream and asked if he was playing with his own money or getting paid by the casino.
He said it is his money and it’s real gambling.
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I unsubscribed, didn’t block the channel. The algorithm still recommends it to me all the time. I enjoy the schadenfreude.
Now almost all popular gambling content on YouTube is utter crap.
Speaking of which, Victor is an atrocious gambler. He regularly makes strategy errors, sometimes even plays hands blind, always makes side bets and sometimes puts more on them than the main bet, then gets sour and blames bad luck when he loses.
Why does crappy play get rewarded with views? And how do these perpetual losers keep replenishing their depleted bankrolls? Could it be that they're being handed money to gamble with by the casinos that sponsor them?
Theres a story about Brian Christopher's slot machine being a big hit on casino floors. And he has signed for cruise appearances. I think it's on the Las Vegas Review Journal website.
I watched a video with Slotmassacre today and he openly said on the video that he's hoping a casino company will sponsor him. He even openly gave his YouTube stats and openly discussed the value of YouTube marketing.
John's World of Video Poker now starts every video with a travelogue of whatever casino resort he's at and if that isnt begging for casino sponsorship what is?
Meanwhile All Casino Action has dramatically increased their table game buy ins... but they're not winning... so where is the new money coming from?
And the Casino Guide father/son duo... can't criticize them for following the lead.
The race is on for YouTube money.
Back to Victor for a moment: I think his bad bets including blind bets and side bets is NOT a reflection on him but rather a calculated and clever way to appeal to viewers. He is not stupid. I think he found a niche which is why he plays a variety of table games. He is doing it for the views and for the money.
Obviously it's working for All Casino Action because the number of videos and the amount being gambled keeps growing.
Dont criticize them. I dont think they're going broke.
Here's the Slotmassacre video. Watch starting around 7:00.
https://youtu.be/Q-WO0GMCzmk
The baccarat and roulette videos are a different category of crap, dominated by scammers pitching fake winning strategies along with idiot true believers.
The only game that seems to favor quality creators is poker. The losers and nonsense peddlers aren't very prominent compared to the players who take the game seriously and have real success at it.
There are some decent video poker vloggers, but their content is pretty boring - I'd rather just play the game on my phone app to improve my skills.
I like his videos because he always starts with $100 and usually stops if he wins a decent amount — much in the same way that I occasionally play slots.
And he and Greta are usually upbeat when he plays — and not too sour when he loses.
People like ttdante who appear to be losing thousands a day in online casinos may not be playing with real money. He did post a video showing him high rolling with his girlfriend in las vegas, though, so he's definitely loaded. He could have inherited a fortune, then acquired a gambling addiction that will eventually consume all of it.
Quote: smoothgrhYouTuber Pompsie has also got in on the slot machine videos action — with a separate channel: Pompsie Slots.
I like his videos because he always starts with $100 and usually stops if he wins a decent amount — much in the same way that I occasionally play slots.
And he and Greta are usually upbeat when he plays — and not too sour when he loses.
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I've followed Pompsie's main channel awhile now, great channel and he definitely puts in the work. Didn't know about the slots channel, but for sure having just watched a few of those slots videos is more enjoyable to watch than ole Vic. Warms my heart he's getting far more views than ACA. Well deserved.
Brian Christopher winning big on his own themed slot machine.
And Pompsie at Red Rock Casino with a big loss and a comeback!
Quote: JackSpadeIt's sad to see that American Casino Guide has devolved into a slots channel. Previously, they had offered generally good advice -- including urging gamblers to stop playing slots and learn video poker.
Now almost all popular gambling content on YouTube is utter crap.
Matt has said they actually get more views on video poker so will lean more in that, although mostly on the gimmick games like Extra Draw Frenzy. Father Bourie (Steve) plays Jacks or Better 10 play which, although at 9/5 may be the best at the casino, is dreadfully boring. But people like them playing Huff and Puff and the Dragon Link games. I think the live streams are good and watch them every week. It's hard to fake your performance on a live stream and they have been doing pretty well recently although they have had times when they lost $2,000 in the span of 90 minutes.
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Back to Victor for a moment: I think his bad bets including blind bets and side bets is NOT a reflection on him but rather a calculated and clever way to appeal to viewers. He is not stupid. I think he found a niche which is why he plays a variety of table games. He is doing it for the views and for the money.
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IMO there is no indication that Vic plays the way he does for views. He is a gambler through and though. Like when he sees 3s coming up again and again so he thinks, 3s are hot so he says he'll 4x the next one he sees. If he was concerned with playing a way to draw in viewers then he'd probably be concerned with how negative he is but he hasn't done anything to curb that either.
Quote: TigerWuA lot of these people might also have "real" jobs, too, and are doing Youtube stuff "on the side." For all we know, Slot Lady is making $10,000 a month flipping houses or something. Even just a part-time job to cover the bills would go a long way, and still leave plenty of time to work on videos.
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When Slotady was the only one in the videos she repeatedly said that she's a YouTuber for her living. Although it seems she was using Victor's bankroll for play. I'm sure people have asked Victor if he has another job but he'd never tell.
https://archive.ph/wip/ArkbwQuote:Twitch streamer Trainwreck recently revealed that he has been getting paid an insane amount for gambling on streams. On a stream by xQc, the Twitch personality revealed that he receives one million dollars every month as a flat fee for gambling on the website. Intrerestingly, xQc himself has participated in online gambling on stream before.
https://archive.ph/EvfTLQuote:Ever since Sliker owned up to tricking Twitch viewers and streamers into lending him money to support his gambling addiction, streamers have banded together to find a solution.
Felix “xQc” Lengyel and Ludwig Ahgren have joined forces to repay people who he deceived. Meanwhile, Imane “Pokimane” Anys is petitioning for Twitch to ban sponsored gambling streams.
However, according to Sliker, a casino contacted him and offered him an ironic way to pay off the debt—by hosting a series of sponsored gambling streams for them.
https://archive.ph/RDtM7#selection-3849.0-3849.450Quote:Matthew “Mizkif” Rinaudo, another top Twitch personality, who became known through his entertaining World of Warcraft livestreams, says he has been offered $19 million per year to gamble live on Twitch in front of his enormous audience. Although Rinaudo has gambled on Twitch in the past, he now believes that it is morally questionable to do so. Last year, Rinaudo saw one of his fans, who was 14 at the time, gambling on a site that he’d promoted.
I would not think that Youtube streamers are making this type of money simply because you cannot VPN into a real casino, but they are definitely getting paid well to spend time at these properties.
It will be interesting to see if Twitch acts and what effect, if any, that has on Youtube.
I've been mesmerized by Shawn Woods's videos on catching mice — it feels so satisfying when they're caught, and I like how he releases native mice into the wild: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clTq6Gzm0SA
Is the slot channel market not saturated yet?
Quote: AlanMendelsonI'm curious why the Slotlady channel haters haven't commented that Slotlady's boyfriend has been betting more and winning more?
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Because he hasn’t been?
Every stream I watch he loses and whines.
Last night’s baccarat stream was hilarious.
Quote: ams288I see Travel Ruby has created a second channel, “Ruby Slots.”
Is the slot channel market not saturated yet?
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Yeah, but how many are actually any good? Most slot channels are boring. If she can do something new or different, it might work.
About to lose $5k on UTH.
Sarah in the live chat begging him to end the stream. People giving superchats asking about his mental health.
Quote: JackSpadeHe raises 4x with J4 offsuit in his last hand …
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J4 offsuit?! That's a winning hand!!!
"A hand which will live in infamy."
and whats even worse is that the trips pays 8/7/4 instead of the better 8/6/5.Quote: JackSpade
"A hand which will live in infamy."
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or even the best (full house = 9)
Quote: JackSpadeHe raises 4x with J4 offsuit in his last hand and wonders why he has 'Victor luck.' He plays with a losing mindset. He's comfortable with losing because it justifies his negative attitude. He's so averse to winning that he literally can't stand to leave the table on a win. It's always 'last hand if I lose'.
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This seems to be a popular hand to take shots with lately.
(Multiple people beat me to this)
Quote: ams288Vic is on TILT tonight.
About to lose $5k on UTH.
Sarah in the live chat begging him to end the stream. People giving superchats asking about his mental health.
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That'd be entertaining to see. But people want to say he isn't just a degenerate gambler.... right....
Quote: TigerWuQuote: ams288I see Travel Ruby has created a second channel, “Ruby Slots.”
Is the slot channel market not saturated yet?
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Yeah, but how many are actually any good? Most slot channels are boring. If she can do something new or different, it might work.
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The majority get no views. The problem with getting big is that you need big wins. That does not happen on lower bets. The more popular channels are either from the beginning or play huge bets to get those 40x wager "jackpots."
Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: 100xOddsand whats even worse is that the trips pays 8/7/4 instead of the better 8/6/5.Quote: JackSpade
"A hand which will live in infamy."
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or even the best (full house = 9)
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Nice job taking this out of context. He had lost $4700 previously and was just playing any 2 cards. But said he had some luck with Jacks so it was his hail Mary.
The real question is... he says he can afford what he loses. Where is he getting his money?
Again, I suspect casino promotion money and a loss rebate.
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I would suspect that the casino would want more name mentions if it was supporting this in some way.
maybe slotlady is just hoping he will put a ring on her finger since they are living together and moved to Vegas. Probably just sees that $$$ going out the windowQuote: LCK2000Quote: ams288Vic is on TILT tonight.
About to lose $5k on UTH.
Sarah in the live chat begging him to end the stream. People giving superchats asking about his mental health.
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That'd be entertaining to see. But people want to say he isn't just a degenerate gambler.... right....
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Quote: 100xOddsand whats even worse is that the trips pays 8/7/4 instead of the better 8/6/5.Quote: JackSpade
"A hand which will live in infamy."
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or even the best (full house = 9)
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Nice job taking this out of context. He had lost $4700 previously and was just playing any 2 cards. But said he had some luck with Jacks so it was his hail Mary.
The real question is... he says he can afford what he loses. Where is he getting his money?
Again, I suspect casino promotion money and a loss rebate.
Everyone can afford to do what they are doing....Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: 100xOddsand whats even worse is that the trips pays 8/7/4 instead of the better 8/6/5.Quote: JackSpade
"A hand which will live in infamy."
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or even the best (full house = 9)
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Nice job taking this out of context. He had lost $4700 previously and was just playing any 2 cards. But said he had some luck with Jacks so it was his hail Mary.
The real question is... he says he can afford what he loses. Where is he getting his money?
Again, I suspect casino promotion money and a loss rebate.
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Until they can't.
Last night’s 3 Card Poker stream started out okay for a few minutes. Then he gets a couple losses (not even bad beats, just losing hands) and his demeanor completely changes to his normal whiny anger.
Quote: ams288If Vic’s strategy was to get people to hate-watch his videos for the schadenfreude of it all, he has been a massive success.
Last night’s 3 Card Poker stream started out okay for a few minutes. Then he gets a couple losses (not even bad beats, just losing hands) and his demeanor completely changes to his normal whiny anger.
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... and the money rolls in.
Does it? At what cost?Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: ams288If Vic’s strategy was to get people to hate-watch his videos for the schadenfreude of it all, he has been a massive success.
Last night’s 3 Card Poker stream started out okay for a few minutes. Then he gets a couple losses (not even bad beats, just losing hands) and his demeanor completely changes to his normal whiny anger.
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... and the money rolls in.
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Yeah, that's it.
I don't see any of their critics doing anything like that.
I'm going to let those numbers speak for themselves.
Quote: AlanMendelsonThey have a YouTube channel. Their buyins range from $1600 to $5000 for their daily videos.
I don't see any of their critics doing anything like that.
I'm going to let those numbers speak for themselves.
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Yeah, most degenerates lose thousands of dollars daily without a wide audience.
Quote: ams288Quote: AlanMendelsonThey have a YouTube channel. Their buyins range from $1600 to $5000 for their daily videos.
I don't see any of their critics doing anything like that.
I'm going to let those numbers speak for themselves.
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Yeah, most degenerates lose thousands of dollars daily without a wide audience.
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Why is this forum so negative about them?
Doesn't it make sense they're getting money from YouTube and the casinos?
You don't doubt rebates and promo $$ for the APs here... and the APs do not have YouTube channels.
The negativity is silly.
Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: ams288Quote: AlanMendelsonThey have a YouTube channel. Their buyins range from $1600 to $5000 for their daily videos.
I don't see any of their critics doing anything like that.
I'm going to let those numbers speak for themselves.
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Yeah, most degenerates lose thousands of dollars daily without a wide audience.
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Why is this forum so negative about them?
Doesn't it make sense they're getting money from YouTube and the casinos?
You don't doubt rebates and promo $$ for the APs here... and the APs do not have YouTube channels.
The negativity is silly.
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I’m not negative about “them.”
I really enjoyed the channel when it was Slotlady.
I find Vic to be insufferable. I enjoy watching his losing sessions.
I admit it's sometimes entertaining to see Victor lose. Maybe playing the role of the whining heel who makes bad plays while on tilt is part of his strategy to get views, but I think he genuinely can't help himself when he gets frustrated.
Quote: JackSpadeI find 'bubbly optimist' Lucky Lee to be more irritating than Victor. She also has some kind of deal with El Cortez. She's a nice person and probably plays closer to optimal than Victor - I just personally find her bubbly optimism to be grating. Obviously like all gambling streamers, she's going to place bad side bets because the potential to hit a big hand bonus creates entertainment value.
I admit it's sometimes entertaining to see Victor lose. Maybe playing the role of the whining heel who makes bad plays while on tilt is part of his strategy to get views, but I think he genuinely can't help himself when he gets frustrated.
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I wonder how our APs react when they lose?
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I wonder how our APs react when they lose?
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Some of them claim to never lose, so we may never know....
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I admit it's sometimes entertaining to see Victor lose. Maybe playing the role of the whining heel who makes bad plays while on tilt is part of his strategy to get views, but I think he genuinely can't help himself when he gets frustrated.
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It really seems like he's cracking. He's started dropping F bombs left and right now when that hadn't happened in any of the months he'd played previously.
It's crazy that he genuinely thinks he's positive. One stream he joked about being a positive player, said he was joking, then quickly took it back and said that actually he is the most positive player in any casino. Delusional.
I do really wish he'd win more often. He's fun when things are going well but he's just so over the top ragey when losing that I'm about to stop watching.
When you do videos you keep talking. You don't want dead air.
Yours taking everything Vic says seriously. Don't.
It is his schtick. It is his act. It is his on camera persona.
If you don't understand that listen to the brief comments he makes to those who are there watching at the EC. Listen to the one liners when he thanks people for super chats.
His "breakdowns" really aren't breakdowns. Its the act.
Of course you'd love it that he would break down for real.
He won't because the money is too good.
Enjoy the show.
Quote: AlanMendelsonI think I'm looking at this from the point of view as a performer. Some of you know my entire career was spent on radio and TV and now I do social media interviews and videos for clients.
When you do videos you keep talking. You don't want dead air.
Yours taking everything Vic says seriously. Don't.
It is his schtick. It is his act. It is his on camera persona.
If you don't understand that listen to the brief comments he makes to those who are there watching at the EC. Listen to the one liners when he thanks people for super chats.
His "breakdowns" really aren't breakdowns. Its the act.
Of course you'd love it that he would break down for real.
He won't because the money is too good.
Enjoy the show.
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You speak as if you know this to be a fact. There is nothing to indicate it is indeed a fact. He has progressively worsened over time. Originally when there was push back against his negativity he did clearly try to clean it up but he couldn't. They instead seemed to just go with it since they knew viewing options for UTH were limited. They even said as much. If his negativity is intentional then why do they regularly edit it out of prerecorded videos?
Quote: AlanMendelsonI think I'm looking at this from the point of view as a performer. Some of you know my entire career was spent on radio and TV and now I do social media interviews and videos for clients.
When you do videos you keep talking. You don't want dead air.
Yours taking everything Vic says seriously. Don't.
It is his schtick. It is his act. It is his on camera persona.
If you don't understand that listen to the brief comments he makes to those who are there watching at the EC. Listen to the one liners when he thanks people for super chats.
His "breakdowns" really aren't breakdowns. Its the act.
Of course you'd love it that he would break down for real.
He won't because the money is too good.
Enjoy the show.
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No offense intended, but this post seems delusional.