Slotlady Channel
August 4th, 2022 at 12:25:17 PM
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I’m convinced he’s a compulsive gambler who uses the income from YouTube to fuel his addiction.
100% agree with this. Sounds like a miserable life style, but hey to each their own. Was classic though the 200K stream, skim-watched it bc of your recommendation and seems nothing much has changed in the 5 months since I last watched a video of theirs.
August 4th, 2022 at 12:54:54 PM
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Quote: LCK2000Quote: ams288
I’m convinced he’s a compulsive gambler who uses the income from YouTube to fuel his addiction.
100% agree with this. Sounds like a miserable life style, but hey to each their own. Was classic though the 200K stream, skim-watched it bc of your recommendation and seems nothing much has changed in the 5 months since I last watched a video of theirs.
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I have to disagree.
I think they bet big and bet high-risk wagers to draw in viewers.
Would you watch someone making $5 bets??
August 5th, 2022 at 6:06:56 AM
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The conversation between them is cringy but revealing. There’s a lot of him complaining/getting angry and her trying to calm him down. Sounds like something I’ve heard plenty of times before and it’s never a good sign. The way he talks about gambling doesn’t sound healthy to me.
Yeah they had bad luck this stream but making max bets (including side bets) with a sizable house edge and some playing errors will eat you up.
When you have an average of ~$500 on the felt each hand it doesn’t take a lot to run through $5k.
Rampage poker recently showed he was making about $200k from YouTube annually (from memory). I don’t think they get the kind of numbers he does. Maybe they’re clearing $100k from YouTube plus super chats plus whatever they get in freeplay/cash from casinos. Just a rough guess. A meaningful amount but production costs have to eat them up, especially when they need that income to support two people.
Yeah they had bad luck this stream but making max bets (including side bets) with a sizable house edge and some playing errors will eat you up.
When you have an average of ~$500 on the felt each hand it doesn’t take a lot to run through $5k.
Rampage poker recently showed he was making about $200k from YouTube annually (from memory). I don’t think they get the kind of numbers he does. Maybe they’re clearing $100k from YouTube plus super chats plus whatever they get in freeplay/cash from casinos. Just a rough guess. A meaningful amount but production costs have to eat them up, especially when they need that income to support two people.
If anyone gives you 10,000 to 1 on anything, you take it. If John Mellencamp ever wins an Oscar, I am going to be a very rich dude.
August 5th, 2022 at 7:28:31 AM
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I wish I really knew what YouTube was paying. I saw a recent article that 1,000 subscribers = $5 of revenue.
But I question that.
I think revenue is determined by actual viewers not total subscribers.
Let's say a typical video gets 12,000 views. That would only be $60 plus whatever "superchat" revenue there is.
As I said I really wish I knew what YouTube was paying. Real numbers.
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I found another article on Google with this summary...
The actual rates an advertiser pays varies, usually between $0.10 to $0.30 per view, but averages out at $0.18 per view. On Average, the YouTube channel can receive $18 per 1,000 ad views. This equates to $3 - $5 per 1000 video views. (Jun 2, 2022)
Again using 12,000 views which is typical for their Channel.... $18 X 12 = $216
BUT THAT'S FOR VIEWS OF FULL COMMERCIALS and not just for views of a live stream or of a repeat of a live stream.
So... I just don't know.
But I question that.
I think revenue is determined by actual viewers not total subscribers.
Let's say a typical video gets 12,000 views. That would only be $60 plus whatever "superchat" revenue there is.
As I said I really wish I knew what YouTube was paying. Real numbers.
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I found another article on Google with this summary...
The actual rates an advertiser pays varies, usually between $0.10 to $0.30 per view, but averages out at $0.18 per view. On Average, the YouTube channel can receive $18 per 1,000 ad views. This equates to $3 - $5 per 1000 video views. (Jun 2, 2022)
Again using 12,000 views which is typical for their Channel.... $18 X 12 = $216
BUT THAT'S FOR VIEWS OF FULL COMMERCIALS and not just for views of a live stream or of a repeat of a live stream.
So... I just don't know.
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August 5th, 2022 at 7:59:39 AM
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Quote: AlanMendelsonI wish I really knew what YouTube was paying. I saw a recent article that 1,000 subscribers = $5 of revenue.
But I question that.
I think revenue is determined by actual viewers not total subscribers.
Let's say a typical video gets 12,000 views. That would only be $60 plus whatever "superchat" revenue there is.
As I said I really wish I knew what YouTube was paying. Real numbers.
Edited to add:
I found another article on Google with this summary...
The actual rates an advertiser pays varies, usually between $0.10 to $0.30 per view, but averages out at $0.18 per view. On Average, the YouTube channel can receive $18 per 1,000 ad views. This equates to $3 - $5 per 1000 video views. (Jun 2, 2022)
Again using 12,000 views which is typical for their Channel.... $18 X 12 = $216
BUT THAT'S FOR VIEWS OF FULL COMMERCIALS and not just for views of a live stream or of a repeat of a live stream.
So... I just don't know.
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I would find all the youtubers by search who had done videos in the last 12-month period on how much they were making, then throw out the highest and lowest and that might give you an approximate correct amount.
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August 5th, 2022 at 8:16:57 AM
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You'd have to compare their YouTube channel with "same size" channels targeting casino players and using the same mix of live streams vs recorded videos.
That would give you only an indication.
Another issue is length of time being on YouTube and what the demographics are of the viewers: age, sex, income, type of gaming, geographic area, etc.
All of that affects which ads YouTube assigns to your channel.
That would give you only an indication.
Another issue is length of time being on YouTube and what the demographics are of the viewers: age, sex, income, type of gaming, geographic area, etc.
All of that affects which ads YouTube assigns to your channel.
August 5th, 2022 at 4:31:13 PM
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Quote: ams288Highly recommend tonight’s 200k subscriber stream.
Sour attitudes, sour results.
Karma.
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The cards really were brutal but it was silly to be unwilling to try anything to change it up. They didn't want to play two hands because they didn't want to lose all of their money quickly and have a short stream but that's what happened anyway. They're there to celebrate 200k subscribers, perhaps humor their requests for this stream and give it a try. They could have played two $50 hands instead of one at $100. They could have bet $25 instead of $100 on Trips. No one knows if it would have worked but to instead resign yourself to "Victor luck" was foolish.
I was surprised Sarah showed up for it. I haven't seen her in a UTH video in I don't know how long.
August 5th, 2022 at 5:09:38 PM
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I think Sarah is there for all of the two camera shoots at craps.
And she monitors all of the chats and whether she does that at the table or in their hotel room doesnt matter.
The reality is they both work the business.
And she monitors all of the chats and whether she does that at the table or in their hotel room doesnt matter.
The reality is they both work the business.
August 5th, 2022 at 6:47:04 PM
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Quote: AlanMendelsonI think Sarah is there for all of the two camera shoots at craps.
And she monitors all of the chats and whether she does that at the table or in their hotel room doesnt matter.
The reality is they both work the business.
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Poorly manage the business. While they have their super fans, imagine if they were actually positive and upbeat and more engaging instead of bitching up a storm. They may have 200K subs, but their acquisition rate has come to a crawl compared to the past.
I'm in the "Victor is a degen gambler and ACA is just kind of a crutch to keep getting him money camp".
Whatever though, hey people want to watch and be fans, be fans. I question how long they can keep this going long term. Another year, sure. But 10 years from now are they going to be grinding away at slots and table games making videos? Sounds like a miserable life.
August 5th, 2022 at 7:22:43 PM
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I think Victor is part of the act including his comments about being a degenerate gambler.
However I do think his anger at people who post negative comments in the chat is real.
Sarah has told him not to be angry at those who post the negative comments.
I've never heard her criticize his play which makes me think it's their shtick to have an entertaining channel.
Actually Victor's self criticism is realistic. I'd rather watch that bit of reality than watch the other youtubers who present themselves as having a never ending bankroll, and never ending wins.
However I do think his anger at people who post negative comments in the chat is real.
Sarah has told him not to be angry at those who post the negative comments.
I've never heard her criticize his play which makes me think it's their shtick to have an entertaining channel.
Actually Victor's self criticism is realistic. I'd rather watch that bit of reality than watch the other youtubers who present themselves as having a never ending bankroll, and never ending wins.
August 6th, 2022 at 1:15:21 AM
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I just can't believe people like watching other people play slots/tablegames.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
August 6th, 2022 at 5:04:40 AM
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Quote: AxelWolfI just can't believe people like watching other people play slots/tablegames.
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I don't get it either but we are probably biased as we have lived in Vegas and lived that lifestyle. I guess Jane Schmo in Nebraska has probably only been to a casino once and gambling is still a huge novelty.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
August 6th, 2022 at 5:16:03 AM
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Quote: DRichQuote: AxelWolfI just can't believe people like watching other people play slots/tablegames.
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I don't get it either but we are probably biased as we have lived in Vegas and lived that lifestyle. I guess Jane Schmo in Nebraska has probably only been to a casino once and gambling is still a huge novelty.
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I'm sure you slow down on the freeway to look at car crashes.
August 6th, 2022 at 5:57:44 AM
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Quote: AxelWolfI just can't believe people like watching other people play slots/tablegames.
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I'm almost willing to bet we could get a successful reaction channel of someone watching other people's gambling videos.
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August 6th, 2022 at 6:41:23 AM
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Quote: rxwineQuote: AxelWolfI just can't believe people like watching other people play slots/tablegames.
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I'm almost willing to bet we could get a successful reaction channel of someone watching other people's gambling videos.
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I think this presupposes that the on-camera talent is expressive and enthusiastic.
I have a hunch that pointing a camera at someone like me saying things like "huh", "hmm", and "mm-hmm" while periodically pausing the original video to take notes wouldn't generate much viewer engagement from the broader population.
May the cards fall in your favor.
August 6th, 2022 at 6:47:25 AM
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Only to render help if needed.Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: DRichQuote: AxelWolfI just can't believe people like watching other people play slots/tablegames.
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I don't get it either but we are probably biased as we have lived in Vegas and lived that lifestyle. I guess Jane Schmo in Nebraska has probably only been to a casino once and gambling is still a huge novelty.
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I'm sure you slow down on the freeway to look at car crashes.
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
August 6th, 2022 at 7:11:44 AM
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That doesn't explain why people like Alan watch.Quote: DRichQuote: AxelWolfI just can't believe people like watching other people play slots/tablegames.
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I don't get it either but we are probably biased as we have lived in Vegas and lived that lifestyle. I guess Jane Schmo in Nebraska has probably only been to a casino once and gambling is still a huge novelty.
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I tried to compare it to me watching Football, Boxing, MMA/UFC/LFA,(Normally, I have a +EV bet/situation if I'm watching) or poker, but it's really not the same.
FYI I dislike watching Baseball or basketball.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
August 6th, 2022 at 7:42:57 AM
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Quote: AxelWolfThat doesn't explain why people like Alan watch.Quote: DRichQuote: AxelWolfI just can't believe people like watching other people play slots/tablegames.
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I don't get it either but we are probably biased as we have lived in Vegas and lived that lifestyle. I guess Jane Schmo in Nebraska has probably only been to a casino once and gambling is still a huge novelty.
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I tried to compare it to me watching Football, Boxing, MMA/UFC/LFA,(Normally, I have a +EV bet/situation if I'm watching) or poker, but it's really not the same.
FYI I dislike watching Baseball or basketball.
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I watch sports to evaluate strategies being used. I don't think that applies to slots.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
August 6th, 2022 at 8:31:13 AM
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Quote: AxelWolfThat doesn't explain why people like Alan watch.Quote: DRichQuote: AxelWolfI just can't believe people like watching other people play slots/tablegames.
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I don't get it either but we are probably biased as we have lived in Vegas and lived that lifestyle. I guess Jane Schmo in Nebraska has probably only been to a casino once and gambling is still a huge novelty.
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I tried to compare it to me watching Football, Boxing, MMA/UFC/LFA,(Normally, I have a +EV bet/situation if I'm watching) or poker, but it's really not the same.
FYI I dislike watching Baseball or basketball.
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I don't watch.
I just am intrigued by the business model.
August 6th, 2022 at 10:41:44 AM
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I agree, it's an interesting one, and even something I would be interested in, but with a twist to be different from the rest of them.Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: AxelWolfThat doesn't explain why people like Alan watch.Quote: DRichQuote: AxelWolfI just can't believe people like watching other people play slots/tablegames.
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I don't get it either but we are probably biased as we have lived in Vegas and lived that lifestyle. I guess Jane Schmo in Nebraska has probably only been to a casino once and gambling is still a huge novelty.
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I tried to compare it to me watching Football, Boxing, MMA/UFC/LFA,(Normally, I have a +EV bet/situation if I'm watching) or poker, but it's really not the same.
FYI I dislike watching Baseball or basketball.
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I don't watch.
I just am intrigued by the business model.
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But, It remains a mystery how much revenue they can generate. I would imagine they can generate revenue from other sources related to this as well(Are they?).
Without knowing how much revenue they generate it's hard to know if that's covering the HA and other costs enough to be worth it.
I wonder if they are even calculating the HA and exactly how much coin-in they can run in and still be profitable after expenses? I doubt it, I think they are just winging it based on results. If they get lucky one month by hitting a few jackpots and free roll revenue they probably consider that all actual profit while forgetting it will probably average out soon enough.
There's also that nasty element of addiction for many of them. I can only assume people like the Slot Lady got into this because of their "love" of -EV slot/table game play in the first place. That sounds like It's a recipe for disaster.
It seems like this kind of situation:
So you like to do a little crack, here's an opportunity to generate more money, so you can buy more crack and do it more often and then justify it by claiming it's good for business.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
August 6th, 2022 at 11:00:54 AM
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With all of these youtubers we dont know what they get from the casinos.
Some talk about free play.
Slotlady has never mentioned free play, have they?
Do they play free play on the side and use that revenue?
Do they get rebates?
She once said she pays for her hotel but that was several years ago. Does the casino give RFB?
I can't believe they are strictly cash customers.
Some talk about free play.
Slotlady has never mentioned free play, have they?
Do they play free play on the side and use that revenue?
Do they get rebates?
She once said she pays for her hotel but that was several years ago. Does the casino give RFB?
I can't believe they are strictly cash customers.
August 6th, 2022 at 11:16:17 AM
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I haven't a clue if she's mentioned it or not, I have probably only watched a total of 45 minutes of her playing. From my understanding, most of them are a little cagey when it comes to that stuff(she seems more so than others) and what they are actually making. The losers tend to claim they are winners and the people raking it in tend to claim the opposite.Quote: AlanMendelsonWith all of these youtubers we dont know what they get from the casinos.
Some talk about free play.
Slotlady has never mentioned free play, have they?
Do they play free play on the side and use that revenue?
Do they get rebates?
She once said she pays for her hotel but that was several years ago. Does the casino give RFB?
I can't believe they are strictly cash customers.
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I would assume they get RFB some free play/ rebate stuff.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
August 6th, 2022 at 11:23:05 AM
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I also assume room upgrades beyond the usual, in exchange for doing a room show & tell on a popular channel.
May the cards fall in your favor.
August 6th, 2022 at 11:49:26 AM
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Let's be practical for a minute. They do at least one live stream a day and the buyins for the live streams range from $800 to $2500... and this past week there was a $5000 buy in which was followed by another live stream for "members only."
Is it safe to say the average is $1500 per session, 7 days a week?
That's $10,500 of buy ins a week that WE know about.
Vic has talked about additional play that's not for YouTube.
I think conservatively they are a minimum $15k a week players.
Let's discuss what $15k a week players would get at El Cortez?
I've never stayed there so I dont know their RFB or comp policies but I'm inclined to think they must get plenty JUST WITH THEIR ACTION and without considering the YouTube and now Facebook exposure.
On one of the TV stations here in Vegas they did a news story on them and an exec from El Cortez openly said they were attracting customers.
It wouldn't surprise me if in addition to full RFB that they were getting rebates plus promotional money plus free play ON TOP of their YouTube money.
If not they are burning thru three-quarters of a million a year which I think is very unlikely.
They might even be on salary now, though she denied that about two years ago -- but that was before the heavy play with Vic started.
And with Vic at the forefront I wouldn't be surprised by any deal that got made. He's no dummy.
Is it safe to say the average is $1500 per session, 7 days a week?
That's $10,500 of buy ins a week that WE know about.
Vic has talked about additional play that's not for YouTube.
I think conservatively they are a minimum $15k a week players.
Let's discuss what $15k a week players would get at El Cortez?
I've never stayed there so I dont know their RFB or comp policies but I'm inclined to think they must get plenty JUST WITH THEIR ACTION and without considering the YouTube and now Facebook exposure.
On one of the TV stations here in Vegas they did a news story on them and an exec from El Cortez openly said they were attracting customers.
It wouldn't surprise me if in addition to full RFB that they were getting rebates plus promotional money plus free play ON TOP of their YouTube money.
If not they are burning thru three-quarters of a million a year which I think is very unlikely.
They might even be on salary now, though she denied that about two years ago -- but that was before the heavy play with Vic started.
And with Vic at the forefront I wouldn't be surprised by any deal that got made. He's no dummy.
August 6th, 2022 at 1:38:03 PM
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Keep in mind that they live in Vegas now, and have no need for a room.
August 6th, 2022 at 1:53:33 PM
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if she's rarely on anymore, how much is the drop in viewership?
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice).
Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
August 6th, 2022 at 2:13:26 PM
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Quote: rsactuaryKeep in mind that they live in Vegas now, and have no need for a room.
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Why rent an apartment when you can get RFB?
I recall her saying that she did not have a car and was living at the hotel and she has a condo in Canada.
Nothing wrong with that kind of living arrangement when you have a casino based business.
August 6th, 2022 at 3:09:48 PM
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Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: rsactuaryKeep in mind that they live in Vegas now, and have no need for a room.
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Why rent an apartment when you can get RFB?
I recall her saying that she did not have a car and was living at the hotel and she has a condo in Canada.
Nothing wrong with that kind of living arrangement when you have a casino based business.
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They are definitely not living in a hotel. Even before she moved to Vegas, she stayed in VRBOs and not hotel rooms when in town for extended periods, even though she could have had free nights for as long as she was in town.
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August 6th, 2022 at 4:10:00 PM
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"All the people being negative in the chat are just jealous they can't afford to gamble this much"
Does he always talk like this? Income-shaming people is really low.
Does he always talk like this? Income-shaming people is really low.
August 6th, 2022 at 4:28:24 PM
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Quote: McSweeney"All the people being negative in the chat are just jealous they can't afford to gamble this much"
Does he always talk like this? Income-shaming people is really low.
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Is he wrong?
August 6th, 2022 at 4:57:59 PM
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Quote: McSweeney"All the people being negative in the chat are just jealous they can't afford to gamble this much"
Does he always talk like this? Income-shaming people is really low.
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That’s his go-to when he’s having a rough night and people in the chat are enjoying the schadenfreude.
A great way to retain subscribers!
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August 6th, 2022 at 7:31:28 PM
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Sara is Canadian. She is legally only allowed 6 months a year in the US. She used to go back and forth. I wonder how she handles this now?
50-50-90 Rule: Anytime you have a 50-50 chance of getting something right, there is a 90% probability you'll get it wrong
August 6th, 2022 at 7:39:02 PM
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Quote: AlanMendelsonJohn's World is back with another video with his $100,000 challenge -- trying to turn $100 into $100k which is what he said he did last year.
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If anyone cares, John's World of Video Poker has failed in his self challenge.
He has added his own money several times in his attempt to turn $100 into $100k.
How many chances does he get?
August 6th, 2022 at 8:22:33 PM
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Quote: vegasSara is Canadian. She is legally only allowed 6 months a year in the US. She used to go back and forth. I wonder how she handles this now?
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That's not entirely true. It's six months per visit. It's likely she still has family there, still. So it's not unreasonable to think that she visits them at least once every six months, and when she re-enters, she resets the counter.
August 6th, 2022 at 8:53:13 PM
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Very predicable.Quote: AlanMendelson
If anyone cares, John's World of Video Poker has failed in his self challenge.
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
August 6th, 2022 at 8:53:18 PM
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Very predicable.Quote: AlanMendelson
If anyone cares, John's World of Video Poker has failed in his self challenge.
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
August 7th, 2022 at 6:14:23 AM
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Quote: rsactuaryQuote: vegasSara is Canadian. She is legally only allowed 6 months a year in the US. She used to go back and forth. I wonder how she handles this now?
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That's not entirely true. It's six months per visit. It's likely she still has family there, still. So it's not unreasonable to think that she visits them at least once every six months, and when she re-enters, she resets the counter.
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No. I am Canadian who spends half my time in the US. Here is what is written:
Canadians can usually stay in the United States for a maximum of six months (about 182 days), during a 12-month period. The allowed time spent in the USA can occur during one trip or it could be the sum of several trips.
50-50-90 Rule: Anytime you have a 50-50 chance of getting something right, there is a 90% probability you'll get it wrong
August 7th, 2022 at 7:04:57 AM
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Quote: rsactuaryQuote: vegasSara is Canadian. She is legally only allowed 6 months a year in the US. She used to go back and forth. I wonder how she handles this now?
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That's not entirely true. It's six months per visit. It's likely she still has family there, still. So it's not unreasonable to think that she visits them at least once every six months, and when she re-enters, she resets the counter.
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Like Vegas said, yeah this is incorrect. Nice try.
I suspect they somehow got Visas and only one I would assume is work visa. Maybe the Cortez put them on the payroll for some meagre amount and they are considered marketing staff. Just a guess.
Plus why they only play at at that shit hole is beyond me other than they kind of have to.
August 7th, 2022 at 8:07:48 AM
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It wouldn't surprise me if in the near future more casinos make deals with social media "influencers" to do live broadcasts and even taped recordings.
It wasn't so long ago that casinos barred cameras. Now some casinos welcome them because they realize the value of the marketing.
Have you checked job openings on sites like LinkedIn, Indeed and Zip Recruiter? Just about every casino company now has a social media department within their marketing departments.
The best advertising in the world is the free advertising your customers do for you on their own social media accounts. Posts like:
"I won a jackpot. I had a gorgeous room. Look at this entre."
You jaded APs and hard core gamblers can't appreciate the value posts like that have. But there are a lot of people out there that are influenced by that and the casinos want them.
And the way for casinos to get a jump start on this social media marketing is to make deals with avid players who will show off the popular games and introduce new games to their followers as well as discuss other features of the hotel/casino experience.
There's a learning curve for the casinos in this, however, and the casinos need to choose their social media ambassadors carefully. They not only want players but they want or should have happy players who will also promote the amenities, free play programs, shows, restaurants, accommodations and the fun of a casino resort.
It wasn't so long ago that casinos barred cameras. Now some casinos welcome them because they realize the value of the marketing.
Have you checked job openings on sites like LinkedIn, Indeed and Zip Recruiter? Just about every casino company now has a social media department within their marketing departments.
The best advertising in the world is the free advertising your customers do for you on their own social media accounts. Posts like:
"I won a jackpot. I had a gorgeous room. Look at this entre."
You jaded APs and hard core gamblers can't appreciate the value posts like that have. But there are a lot of people out there that are influenced by that and the casinos want them.
And the way for casinos to get a jump start on this social media marketing is to make deals with avid players who will show off the popular games and introduce new games to their followers as well as discuss other features of the hotel/casino experience.
There's a learning curve for the casinos in this, however, and the casinos need to choose their social media ambassadors carefully. They not only want players but they want or should have happy players who will also promote the amenities, free play programs, shows, restaurants, accommodations and the fun of a casino resort.
August 7th, 2022 at 10:45:36 AM
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their are other casinos that allow filming. Green valley and red rock come to mind. Sarah used to film slots at cosmopolitan also. I don't think tables though at cosmopolitanQuote: LCK2000Quote: rsactuaryQuote: vegasSara is Canadian. She is legally only allowed 6 months a year in the US. She used to go back and forth. I wonder how she handles this now?
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That's not entirely true. It's six months per visit. It's likely she still has family there, still. So it's not unreasonable to think that she visits them at least once every six months, and when she re-enters, she resets the counter.
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Like Vegas said, yeah this is incorrect. Nice try.
I suspect they somehow got Visas and only one I would assume is work visa. Maybe the Cortez put them on the payroll for some meagre amount and they are considered marketing staff. Just a guess.
Plus why they only play at at that shit hole is beyond me other than they kind of have to.
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August 7th, 2022 at 11:48:02 PM
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Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: McSweeney"All the people being negative in the chat are just jealous they can't afford to gamble this much"
Does he always talk like this? Income-shaming people is really low.
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Is he wrong?
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Yes. Do you really believe the people in the chat are negative because they're jealous of him? That it has nothing to do with his sore loser attitude or how he talks to viewers?
August 11th, 2022 at 10:50:19 AM
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Quote: AlanMendelson
With all of these youtubers we dont know what they get from the casinos.
Some talk about free play.
Slotlady has never mentioned free play, have they?
Do they play free play on the side and use that revenue?
Do they get rebates?
She once said she pays for her hotel but that was several years ago. Does the casino give RFB?
I can't believe they are strictly cash customers.
The math does not work out for straight money.
I was gonna make a db to track some of the bigger players to calculate published losses, but never got around to finishing it. I did some research though.
Check out this video from "bcslot": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgRpwU57yQQ
money in: 8002
out: 6
net: -7996
socialblade says estimated earnings, excluding handouts, is up to $382100/year.
$8000 is 2% of yearly youtube earnings lost in one hour session. Not sustainable. Youtube (or even 2x youtube to account for facebook streams) barely covers staff, equipment, travel, etc. Swag and fan clubs cannot be producing huge amounts of revenue. What is happening?
Then you notice this in video description: "Thank you to our partner Live! Casino Maryland for today's video!"
Get big enough and casino marketing budgets pay for your channel.
August 11th, 2022 at 6:22:00 PM
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Interesting that the American Casino Guide, after ditching the book, has gone all in with the YouTube channel, rebranding themselves as The Jackpot Gents. If you read the comments Matt Bourie admitted that he never played at the casino for fun before. They are playing lots of slots because if you watch the numbers on the live streams, they admit that they get more viewers on slots than video poker. They are also stuck in South Florida, where the Seminoles offer mediocre pay tables for their video poker, so the delta between that and slots may not be that much. I have to wonder what they're not showing though, and if they will ever do an accounting about their play for the year. Some live streams they are up, but some are $1500 or $2000 lost in the span of 90 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWGhbs9Gvq8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWGhbs9Gvq8
August 11th, 2022 at 9:24:25 PM
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It costs nothing to have a YouTube channel. Money is spent on production, cameras and editing.
YouTube has zero charges.
YouTube has zero charges.
August 13th, 2022 at 6:18:04 PM
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On the EL Cortez FB page, they are showing tare too 3 winners in the Cash is King drawing for August. Victor is and Sarah are shown with the largest check for $5000
August 14th, 2022 at 3:01:15 AM
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qualification for this drawing?Quote: rsactuaryOn the EL Cortez FB page, they are showing tare too 3 winners in the Cash is King drawing for August. Victor is and Sarah are shown with the largest check for $5000
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just pure coin-in?
and $5k each or $5k for them both?
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice).
Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
August 14th, 2022 at 3:44:43 AM
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Quote: 100xOddsqualification for this drawing?Quote: rsactuaryOn the EL Cortez FB page, they are showing tare too 3 winners in the Cash is King drawing for August. Victor is and Sarah are shown with the largest check for $5000
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just pure coin-in?
and $5k each or $5k for them both?
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Turns out if your internet works you could go look yourself. You have all the clues... Facebook, El Cortez....
August 14th, 2022 at 4:11:01 AM
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Let me help. Victor won the $5000. She is in the photo with him. This photo puts to rest any doubts as to their status. They are a happy couple.
Nice photo.
Nice photo.
August 14th, 2022 at 3:04:47 PM
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Quote: AlanMendelsonLet me help. Victor won the $5000. She is in the photo with him. This photo puts to rest any doubts as to their status. They are a happy couple.
Nice photo.
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Isn't hard to put on a smiley face for 2 seconds for a picture. They are miserable people who are rotten to their core.
August 14th, 2022 at 4:52:33 PM
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I don't lnow if thats true, It would make sense if you are trying to make money and build a business based on an addiction that can't even be quantified... that would people be par for the course.Quote: LCK2000Quote: AlanMendelsonLet me help. Victor won the $5000. She is in the photo with him. This photo puts to rest any doubts as to their status. They are a happy couple.
Nice photo.
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Isn't hard to put on a smiley face for 2 seconds for a picture. They are miserable people who are rotten to their core.
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
