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May 28th, 2019 at 1:11:19 PM permalink
The 50th World Series of Poker started this week. As part of the celebration, they are polling fans for their votes on the four most influential players in the tournament's history.

What say you?

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May 28th, 2019 at 1:55:39 PM permalink
I don’t know about most influential but the most important and there is no argument here is Chris Moneymaker. He changed poker by winning as a nobody, now all the “nobodies” think they have a chance.
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May 28th, 2019 at 2:01:38 PM permalink
Quote: PokerGrinder

I don’t know about most influential but the most important and there is no argument here is Chris Moneymaker. He changed poker by winning as a nobody, now all the “nobodies” think they have a chance.

Agreed. Moneymaker makes the list because he was the first "nobody" to win the big game.

Was there a person or player responsible for today's domination by Hold 'Em over draw or stud poker variants?
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May 28th, 2019 at 2:02:38 PM permalink
Doyle Brunson
Johnny Chan
Daniel Negreaneu
Chris Moneymaker
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May 28th, 2019 at 2:07:26 PM permalink
They missed Biggest D@#k category, and I don’t mean literally.

I nominate Jaime Gold.

Hopefully not a member here, lol.

And possibly the best of all time

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May 28th, 2019 at 2:11:04 PM permalink
Doyle Brunson
Chris Moneymaker
Jack Binion (is this cheating?)
Johnny Moss (a stretch on my part, but such a legend)
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May 28th, 2019 at 2:13:29 PM permalink
Tend to agree with PG. It also coincided with the use of hole card cams and stuff, IIRC. I believe Robert Verconi won it previously as a recreational player. However, it was less fun to watch and not heavily marketed.

It was kind of a perfect storm of ESPN going with televised poker and a recreational player, who had a bit of charisma and a name headline writers dream of.

I don't know that any other player really matters. Substitute Greg Raymer with any other average family guy, and it's the same. Nobody even knows who the winners are now.

During the poker boom, the famous players helped promote the game. But really, they were mostly interchangeable. I guess Helmuth, but he's really just famous for being a POS. And, the fact that they let him go almost to the point of cheating, probably detracts from the game.

I remember during the boom, a lot of guys thought it was cool to act like Phil. That sucked, but I guess it was an influence.

If a woman ever wins it (lol), she'll immediately become number 2 behind Moneymaker.
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May 28th, 2019 at 2:18:52 PM permalink
By the way, WSOP is a much larger and diverse event than than just the WSOP No-Limit Texas Hold'em Main Event.

Doyle Brunson
Phil Helmuth (most WSOP bracelets)
Daniel Negreaneu (never won the main event)
Chris Moneymaker*


*Honestly, the person who deserves mention is the technical guy that came up with the way for the TV audience to peek at everybody's hole cards. That opened up poker to a TV audience and made it dramatic and comprehensible . The first year that was done was 2005 - the year that Chris Moneymaker won, and IMO this innovation was far more responsible than Moneymaker for the explosion of interest in poker.
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May 28th, 2019 at 2:29:46 PM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

Doyle Brunson
Johnny Chan
Daniel Negreaneu
Chris Moneymaker



Moneymaker was previously mentioned, Brunson wrote the book and Negreanu is a great player and better communicator. I could understand how they could be "influential". Chan, despite winning the big game back to back, hasn't really been in the media as the others. I'm not sure about him as top four. What about Johnny Moss, Phil Hellmuth, Mike Sexton or Vince Van Patten?
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May 28th, 2019 at 2:41:32 PM permalink
I think Moneymaker and Brunson are shoo ins. I think Chan with winning it twice helped popularize the game too with his role or influence in Rounders. I have a hard time with Negreanu if basing it solely on the WSOP. Perhaps Hellmuth
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