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hook3670
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June 29th, 2011 at 1:19:28 PM permalink
I have wondered, and i do not have the right program or fortitude to do this which is why I am asking, how often will/does a dealer get a queen high paigow. Is it exactly enough to offset the 5% commission? I was at Showboat last month and explained the game to the other players, dealer and pit manager and they thought it was a much better game for the players. My point was, they don't create better games for the player and thus I argued it probably is almost the same as paying the commission. Is this true or not? As an aside with an hour of my starting the discussion the dealer got TWO queen high paigows.
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June 29th, 2011 at 1:28:29 PM permalink
Quote: hook3670

Is it exactly enough to offset the 5% commission?

PaiGowDan, the inventor of EZ Pai Gow, will probably respond soon enough. And I think a search will also result in the answer.

But the short answer is: No. Strictly on the house edge basis, EZ is better for the player than the 5% commission. However, it is only slightly so.

The flip side is, everyone likes it better, so you'll have more people playing, and playing longer.

Plus, because you're no longer fumbling with those damn quarters and whites to pay the 5%, the game goes faster. More hands per hour, means more money for the casino - despite the slightly lower house edge.
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June 29th, 2011 at 1:46:53 PM permalink
Do any casinos in Vegas currently have this game?
rdw4potus
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June 29th, 2011 at 1:57:48 PM permalink
Cannery group spreads the game (Rampart, Cannery, Eastside Cannery).
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June 29th, 2011 at 2:08:01 PM permalink
Do any east coast casinos have the game?
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June 29th, 2011 at 3:23:11 PM permalink
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Cannery group spreads the game (Rampart, Cannery, Eastside Cannery).


rdw: When we were at WoVCon, I may have mentioned to you that I saw an EZ PaiGow table as I was walking through Paris Las Vegas -- I had not heard before that they had the game there.
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June 29th, 2011 at 3:33:35 PM permalink
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rdw: When we were at WoVCon, I may have mentioned to you that I saw an EZ PaiGow table as I was walking through Paris Las Vegas -- I had not heard before that they had the game there.



I think you did. And that's good news. Hopefully, Dan's game will slowly infiltrate the entire Evil Empire. I thought I also saw it somewhere else right after WovCon. Somewhere on Boulder Highway, maybe? (and not eastside cannery, I didn't stop there this time around). Could have been back in the midwest, too. I've been to Council Bluffs since I was in Vegas. Maybe I'm just mixing things up.
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June 29th, 2011 at 3:36:12 PM permalink
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I thought I also saw it somewhere else right after WovCon. Somewhere on Boulder Highway, maybe?


Probably at Fiesta Henderson -- that's Dan's home shop, I think.
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August 18th, 2013 at 8:17:34 AM permalink
Quote: hook3670

Do any east coast casinos have the game?



I played it last week at Ballys in AC.
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August 18th, 2013 at 9:14:59 AM permalink
At Borgata it outnumbers Fortune Pai Gow by maybe 4-1.
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July 27th, 2017 at 12:04:21 PM permalink
I had decided in May that I would play EZ Paigow, betting all sidebets next time I saw it, in Dan's memory. Found an open table last night, though I was the only player (which i like, fwiw). Played 2 hands, @$10 min, $5 fortune (Dynasty), $2 queens dragon, $2 Paigow Protection. Second hand is set House Way. Count was 72 hands since QD, 4 hands since envy.

Sidebar: When I first played this game at Harrah's KC, the A-5 SF was called.the "Lubin Wheel" on the felt paytable. For some reason, it's now called the "Luhn Tao" wheel. Maybe a different distributor (Dan himself?), maybe changed since 2013 or so when I saw it there. Guessing there's a story...

Anyway, 10 hands in, down about $100 in a slow dribble, lower my QD bet to $1, but otherwise the same. Grit my teeth at 3 dealer FH, but refuse to whine. Have been adding $5 to the Ante on each win for that hand, but not much for streaks happening.

Another player sits down 14 hands in, just after card change. He only plays table min, ante bet. 5 hands later, q high paigow, 2x $50 for me. Even though it just hit, I keep the $1 bet up. Catch a couple good hands w/bonus, just above even.

8 hands later, dealer q high again. Another 2 x $50 for me. But the fun part comes when they flip my House Way hand. 9 high Paigow. $200 for my $2 Protection bet. And that sucker pushes with a $25 ante on dealer's queen. Ha!

Played 1 more hand, colored up, went to dinner up almost $400. Thanks, Dan. RIP.
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