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October 8th, 2018 at 7:25:06 AM permalink
Do you have any gambling issues being voted on during the midterms in your state?


Florida has amendment 3, Be interested in anyone's opinion on it or anything in their state,


AS always i'm wary of initiatives, Often they are misleading. They appeal to public interest, but you have to carefully look at how they are written and who sponsors them.


i'm for gaming, but do not want the big corps to write out small business gaming, And the way regulations are written is important too.
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October 8th, 2018 at 7:59:27 AM permalink
In California, there aren't any on the ballot, but there's one in the signature-gathering process that would:
(a) allow tribal casinos to offer craps and roulette, subject to what is in the tribe's compact with the state (so the governor would have a de facto veto anyway);
(b) allow "licensed gambling establishments" (I think this means "card rooms," although it could include places like satellite horse racing betting sites) to offer house-banked card games and sports betting (but not online, phone, or other off-premesis betting);
(c) preventing tribal-run gaming on land not actually on the tribe's reservation, or by a tribe not recognized by the Federal government.
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October 8th, 2018 at 8:00:37 AM permalink
Quote: rxwine

Do you have any gambling issues being voted on during the midterms in your state?


Florida has amendment 3, Be interested in anyone's opinion on it or anything in their state,


AS always i'm wary of initiatives, Often they are misleading. They appeal to public interest, but you have to carefully look at how they are written and who sponsors them.


i'm for gaming, but do not want the big corps to write out small business gaming, And the way regulations are written is important too.



Amendment 3 is a voter con job. Constituents already have the authority to make the choices it presents as "empowering" them. Both the language and the massive TV campaign pushing it are disingenuous. (Tried to find a YouTube link so you can see the commercial they're running, but it doesn't seem to be on there.)

What it really does is constrain other avenues of competitive gambling, such as legislative or executive negotiations or law-making favorable to non-Indian gaming interests.

Disney and Seminole Tribes, normally deadly enemies, have made a deal on pushing this legislation. Disney has put in $19.7 million, and the Seminole $16.8 million as of Sept. 30th. Opponents have only raised $1.2 millikn, mostly from gaming groups trying to build here.

Disney has fought any legalized gambling anywhere in the state for decades. They want all those entertainment dollars to go to their own coffers. But they couldn't stop the Seminoles, with sovereign nation rights, from making a compact and offering it.

The Seminoles, who offer mostly bad games with their monopoly, don't want the competition, or the implied need to improve their offerings competition would bring.

Because it's a constitutional amendment, it requires 60% approval to pass. Latest polls have it at 53%, with about 22% opposed, and 25% undecided. So it's up in the air.

Stifling the competition while having gaming in the state is a lose-lose-lose. Those that don't want it here, too late. Those that want good gaming, never going to happen with a monopoly. Gaming as a primary source of education funding, we're not getting that revenue, and yet education funds are being diverted from general budgets anticipating that income. BTW, Nevada, you being 49th doesn't help that last argument much...lol.

Sucks in all directions. But the ad campaign is all happy Disneyesque actors celebrating their new power and freedom. Just such a lie, when it's actually putting new restrictions and prohibitions into the Constitution.
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October 8th, 2018 at 8:06:43 AM permalink
I think that Florida might be the most corrupt state in the country as far as gambling goes. I do not understand why they allow Indians to have such a monopoly.
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October 8th, 2018 at 8:35:07 AM permalink
Nothing in Oklahoma for the mid-terms. I think there's a medical marijuana bill on the table, though.

We passed ball and dice games earlier this year.

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