HotBlonde Challenge Round 2
And honestly this time around I would not even look at winning the money as my main incentive to lose the weight as I did last time (along with looking better). My main incentive to lose this weight is to be at a healthy weight by my 40th birthday which is coming up in May of 2017. So this is big to me. Not to mention the fact that I am still single and want to get married and have kids and my biological clock is winding down.
So having my 40th birthday as a target and being motivated to have my body in a better place to find a potential husband really are my main goals. I figured throwing in the betting if anyone is interested would be a fun incentive to add into the mix.
For those of you who don't know I started my weight loss challenge in January 2012 at 250.8 pounds. I lost 99.6 pounds and unfortunately gained it all back and then some. Embarrassing as it is, I have to be upfront with my current weight status if I'm going to enter another round of betting.
Would anyone be interested if I start a new challenge? Do I have any takers? Ideas? Thoughts?
Since you already proved you could do it once, odds would need to be given. I don't think anyone would bet the no on pokergrinder eating 100 nuggets again(yes this is harder) . I guess you could argue the older you get the harder it is to lose some weight, however I'm thinking that's not going to be a big factor. If a healthy lifestyle is your goal then a 2 part bet would be better. 2nd part of the bet would be keeping the weight off for 2 years.Quote: HotBlondeSo a while back Mike and I were talking and the subject of a round 2 of my weight loss challenge came up. I asked if it would make sense to do a Round 2 since there may not be any takers since I won the first round in 2012. He said yes he thought people would bet again and that he himself would bet, and if I remember correctly he said we would have to have the new initial odds set at 1:1 or something like that. If that were the case I would be willing to put up even money (don't know if I'm talking the jargon correctly).
And honestly this time around I would not even look at winning the money as my main incentive to lose the weight as I did last time (along with looking better). My main incentive to lose this weight is to be at a healthy weight by my 40th birthday which is coming up in May of 2017. So this is big to me. Not to mention the fact that I am still single and want to get married and have kids and my biological clock is winding down.
So having my 40th birthday as a target and being motivated to have my body in a better place to find a potential husband really are my main goals. I figured throwing in the betting if anyone is interested would be a fun incentive to add into the mix.
For those of you who don't know I started my weight loss challenge in January 2012 at 250.8 pounds. I lost 99.6 pounds and unfortunately gained it all back and then some. Embarrassing as it is, I have to be upfront with my current weight status if I'm going to enter another round of betting.
Would anyone be interested if I start a new challenge? Do I have any takers? Ideas? Thoughts?
FYI I know a few others on the forum would like to shed some pounds, I would like to see them get in the ring.
I'll set let the line at 13.5 as the number of different people who say along the way, "The hard part isn't losing the weight -- it is keeping it off."
I make a bet on your weight loss at even money. If you reach your goal I pay up. The second part is we weigh you one year later (after you reach your desired weight loss). If you are not within say 5 pounds of where you were at the end of your diet, then you pay me my money back + 20%.
This would give you an added incentive to keep the weight off
This would add to what the Wiz said when he said the hard part is keeping it off. Just a thought.
On the other hand, I have to accept that some of us are flawed. No, I don't mean HB. I mean all of us, or at least most of us. I got no strong feelings 'bout betting this thing one way or the other.
Good luck to HB if she wants to lose some weight. Good luck to GWAE if she (joke) wants to lose some weight.
I am not willing to bet at this point. Should I decide that a modest bet against HB losing some weight will help her lose some weight, then I will make a modest bet. I will make that bet in support of HB.
"People are strange, when you're a stranger, faces look ugly when you're alone " credit Jim M.
Its not the soda pop, its the the ice cream you're washing it down with (-;Quote: GWAEWeight loss is tough as hell. I have been battling losing for years. I make progress and then my drug "pop" roars it's ugly head and I go back. It's tough, it really is. Skinny people just don't understand. I wish you the best HB.
Quote: WizardA good place to start is to know what weight you're at now, the target weight, and the deadline.
I weighed myself this morning and I weigh 289.2 pounds. If you need me to weigh myself again tomorrow as proof or something I can. I started my diet today so I should be around that or slightly less.
My target weight is 164.6 pounds or less on May 13, 2017 (and that would be my weight naked). That gives me 306 days (or 10 months and 2 days, or just under 44 weeks) to hit my goal.
If anyone is interested in my calculations, here's what I figured: if I follow the current plan I have set up I should reach 163.7 pounds on my birthday (May 13th). And yes, that's cutting it close (yikes) but it will only motivate me to really stick to my plan and possibly add in exercise.
I would take the yes she will for 500, takers?
If we do this the way we did in 2012 then I would be the only one making the 'yes' bet. If you wanted to bet you would have to bet 'no'.Quote: WizardofnothingIs this official that she is starting it?
I would take the yes she will for 500, takers?
Quote: vegasThis would add to what the Wiz said when he said the hard part is keeping it off. Just a thought.
I didn't directly say that but was quoting the numerous times it was said last time. So, with you saying it, the count is 1.
I will not partake in the action, but I wish you the best of luck. It's a lifestyle change, not a diet... That's the first thing I hope you really learn in your journey. If you diet, it will come back. The word/phrase itself tells you that. If you're on a diet now, then when you reach your goal you don't need to be on a diet, but that's what's going to bring all the weight back. Most people think "okay, I made it, now I'm healthy and should be able to eat whatever I want!" but then they eat too many calories and don't burn enough, even if they are working out. I workout all the time, if I eat McDonalds for lunch, then a buffet or something for dinner, I'd have to work out for like 4-5 hours to burn that off and not gain weight that day. People usually just don't understand the simple math of calories in and calories out. Food intake is half the battle, and exercise is the other half. If you change your lifestyle you'll keep the weight off for a long time and be fairly healthy in the meantime.
Mike, go ahead and count me in as one of the "keeping the weight off is the harder challenge." =) I'd be more likely to take action if someone lost 100 lbs and then I made a 5 year bet with them that they could keep it off.
Quote: HotBlondeI weighed myself this morning and I weigh 289.2 pounds. If you need me to weigh myself again tomorrow as proof or something I can. I started my diet today so I should be around that or slightly less.
My target weight is 164.6 pounds or less on May 13, 2017 (and that would be my weight naked). That gives me 306 days (or 10 months and 2 days, or just under 44 weeks) to hit my goal.
If anyone is interested in my calculations, here's what I figured: if I follow the current plan I have set up I should reach 163.7 pounds on my birthday (May 13th). And yes, that's cutting it close (yikes) but it will only motivate me to really stick to my plan and possibly add in exercise.
So, that is losing 124.6 pounds in 306 days. That is 2.85 pounds per week.
I want to see you succeed and also think you can if there is enough money at stake. That said, I'm going to bet only $300 assuming even money.
Quote: HotBlondeIf we do this the way we did in 2012 then I would be the only one making the 'yes' bet. If you wanted to bet you would have to bet 'no'.
It is a free market and if two people want to make a bet, they can. However, I think it would be the courteous thing to do to give you the right of first refusal.
Finally, I wish to remind everybody that these are just fun friendly bets. Neither I nor the site owners make any guarantees against welching.
Quote: WizardI'll set let the line at 13.5 as the number of different people who say along the way, "The hard part isn't losing the weight -- it is keeping it off."
Losing weight is the easy part, finding someone to pay you to do it is the hard part
Quote: HotBlondeIf anyone is interested in my calculations, here's what I figured: if I follow the current plan I have set up I should reach 163.7 pounds on my birthday (May 13th)
That is an oddly specific number. I would open with the under at -250 and the over at +210
Quote: AxelWolfIts not the soda pop, its the the ice cream you're washing it down with (-;
Not necessarily.
Excess weight CAN be simple over eating/insufficient exercise, but is often the high potassium level/aspartame in the diet, endocrine disruptor chemicals in the diet, dough conditioners in the diets, bacteria, viral infections, etc.
Quote: AxelWolfIts not the soda pop, its the the ice cream you're washing it down with (-;
But ice cream is dairy
Umm NO! Anyone can bet whatever they want on the side and if what you said is true then you shouldn't care about who makes what bet with or without you. Mike had made his bet so that should be enough of a friendly wager to proceed because you are NOT doing this for the money right?Quote: HotBlondeIf we do this the way we did in 2012 then I would be the only one making the 'yes' bet. If you wanted to bet you would have to bet 'no'.
If money is your motivation I'm not interested as i think for enough money on the line you might be more likely succeed.
Anyone who wants to bet the yes PM me I will probably give you a better deal than she is offering lets see how this pans out, If she backs out then I will assume its because not enough money came in to encourage her.
We just need to know if the bet is on or not. then the betting can proceed, not after you decide if its worth it or not.
Quote: AxelWolfUmm NO! Anyone can bet whatever they want on the side and if what you said is true then you shouldn't care about who makes what bet with or without you. Mike had made his bet so that should be enough of a friendly wager to proceed because you are NOT doing this for the money right?
If money is your motivation I'm not interested as i think for enough money on the line you might be more likely succeed.
Anyone who wants to bet the yes PM me I will probably give you a better deal than she is offering lets see how this pans out, If she backs out then I will assume its because not enough money came in to encourage her.
We just need to know if the bet is on or not. then the betting can proceed, not after you decide if its worth it or not.
You're right, anyone can do what they want but the whole point of the challenge is so that I can take the yes side against people who want to take the no side. I think it's very ungentlemanly of you to try and hijack my thread and tell people you will give them better odds and to go to you instead. You obviously weren't around when I did the challenge in 2012 but the whole point of the challenge is to contribute to my motivation with many bets against me. And if you decide to do the sleazy thing and get people to bet with you on the side, how are you going to verify my final weight? Don't you think I can share that with only people who have made a bet with me and me alone?
Made side bets, it was all everyone against poker grinder- I think you are out of line with your response to aw
Quote: HotBlondeAnd honestly this time around I would not even look at winning the money as my main incentive to lose the weight as I did last time (along with looking better). My main incentive to lose this weight is to be at a healthy weight by my 40th birthday which is coming up in May of 2017......
Ideas? Thoughts?
Quote: JohnnyQHey guys, don't forget:
Yes, read what I said. I said its not my main incentive (to win money) but it's still an incentive otherwise I wouldn't have posted it to begin with.
And in regards to AxelWolf, he can make side bets if he wants but he shouldn't post about it in this thread, he can create his own thread and do that. Again he would have to verify my final weight in order to get any bets paid. And again the whole point of this challenge is to incentivize me.
Be >50k and at that point you could starve yourself as axel said if the money was right- heck there was a guy that got breast implants for 100k
to bet on. We already know she can do
it, because she did it. Of course she'll do
it again, so where is the betting part.
Basically this is paying her to lose wright,
calling it a wager is not correct. So do
I want to pay her to lose weight, something
I already know she can do? Why in the
world would I, or anybody, do that.
Quote: HotBlondeYou're right, anyone can do what they want but the whole point of the challenge is so that I can take the yes side against people who want to take the no side. I think it's very ungentlemanly of you to try and hijack my thread and tell people you will give them better odds and to go to you instead. You obviously weren't around when I did the challenge in 2012 but the whole point of the challenge is to contribute to my motivation with many bets against me. And if you decide to do the sleazy thing and get people to bet with you on the side, how are you going to verify my final weight? Don't you think I can share that with only people who have made a bet with me and me alone?
The first Hot Blonde thread was just finishing when I joined the board. IMO, it was the single worst thing on the board, with a lot of un-civilness and manipulative accusations thrown around, several suspensions, many offended people. It was a relief when it finally went dormant.
Now HB wants to start all that up again, with the Wizard encouraging it, and in the first day, she posts this, with all the seeds of what made the first one so cringe - worthy: insulting another member (twice), making arbitrary rules both about the bet itself, and posting in a supposedly open thread, a general tone of privilege in using the forum and its members to her own ends, all kinds of umbrage and outrage from all sides.
I hope she loses the weight for both her health and future plans. That's not my issue with this.
I will not be participating in this thread, either as a moderator or a member, let alone as a bettor. Anybody who posts here, I will not defend you when you get suspended by another moderator. I will not respond to complaints, and I actually think the other moderators shouldn't either. With the history of rancor in the forum archives, HB starting this again is the equivalent of Open Season as far as I'm concerned. But it's up to the other mods how they go forward on this; I'm just giving notice at the beginning. I'm out.
Reminds me of the bet on Howard stern when Benjy said he would lose weight or get a digit in his rectum. He was in control of it and in the end waved the red flag just to get a bit for the show. The fact that she took umbrage and said she won't tell people who aren't betting is reason number one that this thread should not go on.
Reminds me of the bet on Howard stern when Benjy said he would lose weight or get a digit in his rectum. He was in control of it and in the end waved the red flag just to get a bit for the show. The fact that she took umbrage and said she won't tell people who aren't betting is reason number one that this thread should not go on.
Quote: beachbumbabsThe first Hot Blonde thread was just finishing when I joined the board. IMO, it was the single worst thing on the board, with a lot of un-civilness and manipulative accusations thrown around, several suspensions, many offended people. It was a relief when it finally went dormant.
Now HB wants to start all that up again, with the Wizard encouraging it, and in the first day, she posts this, with all the seeds of what made the first one so cringe - worthy: insulting another member (twice), making arbitrary rules both about the bet itself, and posting in a supposedly open thread, a general tone of privilege in using the forum and its members to her own ends, all kinds of umbrage and outrage from all sides.
I hope she loses the weight for both her health and future plans. That's not my issue with this.
I will not be participating in this thread, either as a moderator or a member, let alone as a bettor. Anybody who posts here, I will not defend you when you get suspended by another moderator. I will not respond to complaints, and I actually think the other moderators shouldn't either. With the history of rancor in the forum archives, HB starting this again is the equivalent of Open Season as far as I'm concerned. But it's up to the other mods how they go forward on this; I'm just giving notice at the beginning. I'm out.
First post in a while here, and posting knowing your obvious liberal leanings which I believe makes you biased against this thread on its merits as a woman. Good for you!!! Unless someone feels there is money to be made, nothing of value here.
Quote: WizardofnothingWelcome back..... Can we please close this thread, it's going to lead to nothing good, especially after how she reacted to axel after I offered to wager
Not my decision on how this forum should be run, but after JJ and HB, really? Is this what some members want? Give me Sally and Babs everyday for what I come here for....if sex matters when considering quality of posters.
Quote: beachbumbabsIMO, it was the single worst thing on the board, with a lot of un-civilness and manipulative accusations thrown around, several suspensions, many offended people. It was a relief when it finally went dormant.
Now HB wants to start all that up again, with the Wizard encouraging it, and in the first day, she posts this, with all the seeds of what made the first one so cringe - worthy: insulting another member (twice), making arbitrary rules both about the bet itself, and posting in a supposedly open thread, a general tone of privilege in using the forum and its members to her own ends, all kinds of umbrage and outrage from all sides.
I hope she loses the weight for both her health and future plans. That's not my issue with this.
Good points, well said.
Yes, I did welcome HB to post the new challenge. I'd like to think it as an incentive for her to lose weight. Did I find the old thread a guilty pleasure? Maybe. Same as all the McNugget threads.
It is a good point there was lots of side betting on every McNugget challenge and the challengers never complained about it. If two consenting adults want to make a bet, or any transaction that doesn't harm any third party, then I believe no entity should stand between them.
Regardless or whether or not a challenge officially takes place, I certainly wish HB success. I'm available for advice and encouragement, if asked.
Here is my simple advice for maintaining a healthy weight:
1. Do some form of challenging exercise at least one hour a day. Two is, of course, better.
2. Contrary to what my mother would say, stop eating when you're no longer hungry.
3. Try to emphasize eating natural foods -- fruit, vegetables, and nuts. I'm not saying never eat meat or sweets, but keep it in moderation.
This is not a diet but a lifestyle. Once you fall off the bandwagon you will put weight back on.
Quote: beachbumbabsThe first Hot Blonde thread was just finishing when I joined the board. IMO, it was the single worst thing on the board, with a lot of un-civilness and manipulative accusations thrown around, several suspensions, many offended people. It was a relief when it finally went dormant.
Now HB wants to start all that up again, with the Wizard encouraging it, and in the first day, she posts this, with all the seeds of what made the first one so cringe - worthy: insulting another member (twice), making arbitrary rules both about the bet itself, and posting in a supposedly open thread, a general tone of privilege in using the forum and its members to her own ends, all kinds of umbrage and outrage from all sides.
I hope she loses the weight for both her health and future plans. That's not my issue with this.
I will not be participating in this thread, either as a moderator or a member, let alone as a bettor. Anybody who posts here, I will not defend you when you get suspended by another moderator. I will not respond to complaints, and I actually think the other moderators shouldn't either. With the history of rancor in the forum archives, HB starting this again is the equivalent of Open Season as far as I'm concerned. But it's up to the other mods how they go forward on this; I'm just giving notice at the beginning. I'm out.
Peace.
Id like incentive to put in more hours ap'ing- but I don't think it's appropriate to ask for incentive on the forum-
Maybe I'd like
Incentive to work out more- so we place a wager if I make it to the gym more then three days a well but then I will make a whole
Thread about it but only share with those that bet with me
Not only was I suspended during the first thread, but my comments so incensed HB that she (and a male companion, there seemingly for protection) braced me at a WoV con and demanded an apology.
Were I not a big, uncaring lout I might even have been intimidated.
I'll go $10 against you making the goal if you'll make the following bet as part of the wager...
My second $10 against your $1000...my side is that you will gain more than 15 pounds from your lowest weight during the challenge back sometime within the three years of successfully completing the challenge. Your side is that you will never go 15 pounds over...
This is to be verified by weekly weigh-ins.
Quote: WizardofnothingWiz, I'm very surprised you condone this given her initial reaction to my wager and axels comment. The Mcnugget challenge was fun and bets were allowed on both sides, From the sound of this hb making a statement that she could not share the results it would be akin to us running a football contest on this site but not posting the results or the winners unless you bet directly with the person running it. I really feel this breaks the spirit of the site given her comment.
You're right. It would be wrong to use this forum to solicit bets for your own benefit and not have the courtesy to at least offer closure to whether the challenge won or lost. I never condoned it, but perhaps I should have rebuked it more forcefully.
Quote: HotBlondeYes, read what I said. I said its not my main incentive (to win money) but it's still an incentive otherwise I wouldn't have posted it to begin with.
And in regards to AxelWolf, he can make side bets if he wants but he shouldn't post about it in this thread, he can create his own thread and do that. Again he would have to verify my final weight in order to get any bets paid. And again the whole point of this challenge is to incentivize me.
Why do you need the possibility of winning bets as an incentive to lose weight? How about the incentive of living a healthier life and being far less likely to drop dead from a heart attack in your 40s? How's that for incentive? And if money is still so important as an incentive how about the thousands of dollars you will likely save in medical expenses later in life?
Quote: beachbumbabsThe first Hot Blonde thread was just finishing when I joined the board. IMO, it was the single worst thing on the board, with a lot of un-civilness and manipulative accusations thrown around, several suspensions, many offended people. It was a relief when it finally went dormant.
Now HB wants to start all that up again, with the Wizard encouraging it, and in the first day, she posts this, with all the seeds of what made the first one so cringe - worthy: insulting another member (twice), making arbitrary rules both about the bet itself, and posting in a supposedly open thread, a general tone of privilege in using the forum and its members to her own ends, all kinds of umbrage and outrage from all sides.
I hope she loses the weight for both her health and future plans. That's not my issue with this.
I will not be participating in this thread, either as a moderator or a member, let alone as a bettor. Anybody who posts here, I will not defend you when you get suspended by another moderator. I will not respond to complaints, and I actually think the other moderators shouldn't either. With the history of rancor in the forum archives, HB starting this again is the equivalent of Open Season as far as I'm concerned. But it's up to the other mods how they go forward on this; I'm just giving notice at the beginning. I'm out.
HEAR!! HEAR!! I had similar fears when I saw this Hot Blonde Redux thread.
Weight gain can be considered a form of gambling but weight loss for health and for money are different matters. It can be very frustrating. I drove six miles to a supermarket with a scale and upon arrival found an out of order sign on it. Cost me gas money AND calories because the frustration erodes will power. I too will always wish someone luck with their dietary goals but lets not have the bickering, insults or complaints.
The previous HB challenge thread was by far the best in WoV history. You took on a challenge that few if any thought you would succeed at, put up your own money to bet, and crushed it. The thread brought more actual wagers by WoV members than all other WoV threads combined. And this is a GAMBLING forum.
One again, good luck!
Quote: WizardofnothingCouldn't disagree. More...:: the first one may have been on but the second one is not needed, especially since she wants to block access for those that didn't bet- simply because she likes the odds that the wizard put out and wanted to limit the competitive marketplace of lines!!!!!!
Ummm... If you feel the new thread is not needed just block it. But you are not needed to be the ultimate decider of which threads are 'needed', that I can assure you.
Quote: SOOPOOUmmm... If you feel the new thread is not needed just block it. But you are not needed to be the ultimate decider of which threads are 'needed', that I can assure you.
I don't think he asked for that position, he just expressed an opinion. Last I heard, that was still okay here as long as you stayed between the lines. Obviously, he is not alone in his position on this thread.
When a thread starts off with posts mentioning things like letting the suspensions begin, etc. it is like we are wishing for a train wreck...in this case, one we already had. I do watch NASCAR, so I am used to the "Big One" (wreck, in case you have a dirty mind), but I can see the point in not caring for there being another thread of this sort. I can also see having it...it was a popular and controversial thread.
I don't think I will be betting because HB won't like the bet I offered, and that is fine. How much attention will I pay to this? Who knows.
Ok guys- bet against me for something I have control over so I can make money / if you decide you don't like my odds offered then tough- you can't shop around - you can't bet amongst yourselves because we are going to tell you the results unless you pay our 30 percent vig ..... That's my 2cents
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Quote: WizardofnothingI added it for those exact reasons, on top of the fact that if you are posting something in here and then when two people want to bet on it you say..., sorry guys I'm not going to let you use my "basketball net" unless you include me on the team. Then that is totally against the spirit of the site and in my opinion you are simply soliciting And that is the same as someone soliciting business which we ban
Ok guys- bet against me for something I have control over so I can make money / if you decide you don't like my odds offered then tough- you can't shop around - you can't bet amongst yourselves because we are going to tell you the results unless you pay our 30 percent vig ..... That's my 2cents
Fair points.... But I don't think Mike would consider this yearlong bet in the same vein as 'soliciting business'. I think if she did the challenge with some members, but used the forum to solicit them, then she should inform the whole forum of the final result.
By the way, I re-read her terms, she has to lose 135 pounds this time! It was only around 100 last time. Even patients who undergo bariatric surgery would be a long shot to lost that much weight in such a short period of time.
