As an American citizen, I did my duty and voted, as did some 65,000 other residents of Cochise County.
Two Republicans have decided not to certify our votes, not because of fraud here or even suspected fraud in Cochise, but because they don't like how the election was done in other parts of the state.
Today, lawyers representing myself and a group of seniors are filing suits against these two jerkwads.
What do you think is a fair price for someone stealing your vote and rendering it useless? I'm hoping we bankrupt the bastards, so no one else is tempted to pull this nonsense when an election goes against them.
I don't want to and won't profit off this, any money we win will go to charity in the county, but I'm hoping for a very very large judgment.
Quote: billryanWhat is my vote worth?
As an American citizen, I did my duty and voted, as did some 65,000 other residents of Cochise County.
Two Republicans have decided not to certify our votes, not because of fraud here or even suspected fraud in Cochise, but because they don't like how the election was done in other parts of the state.
Today, lawyers representing myself and a group of seniors are filing suits against these two jerkwads.
What do you think is a fair price for someone stealing your vote and rendering it useless? I'm hoping we bankrupt the bastards, so no one else is tempted to pull this nonsense when an election goes against them.
I don't want to and won't profit off this, any money we win will go to charity in the county, but I'm hoping for a very very large judgment.
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What really confuses me is, according to this article:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/nov/28/republicans-arizona-county-refuse-to-certify-midterm-election-results
Two more Democrats will win if Cochise County results are not certified and counted, US House Seat and State Schools Seat, according to the article.
Also, not that it changes the outcome, but won't this technically result in Hobbs defeating Lake by a larger percentage?
More than that, this is just going to add fuel to the fire of certain far left claims that the Republicans (as a whole) want to, "Overthrow Democracy," or whatever the verbiage du jour is on that line.
It really seems like some Republicans either WANT to lose, or want to eventually lead us to another Civil War; I'm not quite sure which.
The Republican who seems to have won the Education Commissioners position, who ran on banning CRT,which isn't taught anywhere in Arizona, would lose if our votes don't count.
If I stand by and do nothing, I will be better represented by like-minded folks, but if we fight for our votes, we lose those people.
No one said Democracy is easy.
Quote: billryanExactly. If I stand by and allow my vote not to count, my district will be represented in Congress by a Democrat. If the votes are counted, she loses.
The Republican who seems to have won the Education Commissioners position, who ran on banning CRT,which isn't taught anywhere in Arizona, would lose if our votes don't count.
If I stand by and do nothing, I will be better represented by like-minded folks, but if we fight for our votes, we lose those people.
No one said Democracy is easy.
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So, they're running on banning the teaching of a thing that isn't even being taught...and won?
It's good to know that public officials are very knowledgeable when it comes to fostering improvement by way of the positions they are seeking. Perhaps I will run for the state equivalent position with my campaign stance being we will absolutely NEVER allow science classes in our schools to teach Spontaneous Generation Theory. I should win in a landslide.
https://www.rawstory.com/kari-lake-katie-hobbs-2658797573/
Quote: TigerWuGoodbye, election betting thread! See you in 2024 (maybe) for more dumb arguments!
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Indeed. Goodbye. I'm sure the topic will return in 2024. Reminder that you can talk about almost anything you want at DT.
Reminder -- No political statements.
Id say anything (besides betting odds) that involves a political figure is political, and *certainly* if you imply that a figure has committed felonies before hes been convicted by a court of law.Quote: ChumpChangeIs Trump's 91 felonies political or criminal? I'll go with criminal. If you've never heard of them before, that's political.
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I still have the indictment open in my browser, but I haven't read much but the names. TV news says the secret service has been in Georgia for weeks waiting for Trump to surrender.
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23909551/23sc188947-criminal-indictment64.pdf
I think the moment of truth will be when the jail reveals Trumps' true height and weight.
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Breaking News: Donald Trump's legal defense fund website appeared to have been taken over Friday night by someone who opposes the former president.
Visits to the Patriot Legal Defense Fund site set up in recent weeks to help pay mounting legal bills for the former president and his allies were met with an altered home page. A large banner reads, "Hey! America is already great."
An archived version of the same URL shows that this site was previously used to raise funds for Trump.
"In our country, everyone has to follow the rules, no matter who they are. Our Constitution, the big rule book of our nation, says that we're all equal. Nobody gets special treatment," the site now reads. "I want to talk a bit about lying. A lie is when someone doesn't tell the truth on purpose. It's like saying you ate an apple when you really ate a cookie. Lying is bad because it breaks trust. Imagine if your friends didn't believe you anymore because you lied a lot. In some cases, like when people lie to the courts or the police, it's not just bad, it's a crime."
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#LockTrumpUpNow
Quote: WizardThis is probably a mistake, but I'll reopen this thread for purposes of discussion of election betting only. Political statements are still not allowed until we get closer to the primaries. That said, I'm looking to bet that Trump wins the GOP nomination at even money. Any takers?
Reminder -- No political statements.
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Very generous of you, but Oddshark puts Trump at -280 to win the GOP nomination.
Quote: ChumpChangeWe'll see if the judge issues a bench warrant for the 19 indicted people who refuse to surrender for arrest including mug shots and fingerprints in Georgia next week.
#LockTrumpUpNow
I still have the indictment open in my browser, but I haven't read much but the names. TV news says the secret service has been in Georgia for weeks waiting for Trump to surrender.
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23909551/23sc188947-criminal-indictment64.pdf
I think the moment of truth will be when the jail reveals Trumps' true height and weight.
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Breaking News: Donald Trump's legal defense fund website appeared to have been taken over Friday night by someone who opposes the former president.
Visits to the Patriot Legal Defense Fund site set up in recent weeks to help pay mounting legal bills for the former president and his allies were met with an altered home page. A large banner reads, "Hey! America is already great."
An archived version of the same URL shows that this site was previously used to raise funds for Trump.
"In our country, everyone has to follow the rules, no matter who they are. Our Constitution, the big rule book of our nation, says that we're all equal. Nobody gets special treatment," the site now reads. "I want to talk a bit about lying. A lie is when someone doesn't tell the truth on purpose. It's like saying you ate an apple when you really ate a cookie. Lying is bad because it breaks trust. Imagine if your friends didn't believe you anymore because you lied a lot. In some cases, like when people lie to the courts or the police, it's not just bad, it's a crime."
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