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AxelWolf
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May 8th, 2019 at 11:49:01 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Axelwolf,

Many software providers and/or casinos have published their returns, or otherwise allowed them to become known in the online casino industry. In any event, the biggest thing in your assumption is that the slots hold 10%, which is not the case.

I believe Wizard mentioned he was playing one that holds 2%, but I would have to go back and look. I am aware of a few titles, Rock On is one example (I think thatís what itís called) that holds less than 5%. Although, many casinos have in the T&Cís certain individual slot machines that can not be played while on a bonus.

I agree with you that they are free rolling, in many cases, and have said as much all over the place. Among other things, it seems like certain T&Cís they could program the site such that the player couldnít violate them in the first place, but they donít. As you can see here, they want the player to violate the terms.

Itís not like they couldnít program the system to see that Wizard made no new deposit (I do agree with Intertops only that what Wizard did does not qualify as a redeposit) and therefore refuse to give him the bonus before heíd played anything. One would also think that it would be possible NOT to offer him a redeposit bonus when he already has money in his wallet.

I donít know about Intertops, but many online casinos STILL wouldnít count it as a redeposit if you have a balance at the time, even if it is actually new money.

2% hold on slots eh? Yet they offer 100% bonuses to players and they give affiliate's up to 40% rev share, not to mention 5% for sub affiliates. I realize that not everyone will get up to the 40% level, probably very few will obtain that level, but for the first 3 months everyone gets 30%. But, they have no negative carry over. I assume that's per month. <<< If so, let that sink in for a minute.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
darkoz
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May 8th, 2019 at 11:53:01 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

And now you are ridding around in buses worth a few hundred K.



So?
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
AxelWolf
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May 8th, 2019 at 11:56:31 PM permalink
Quote: bobbartop

Several casinos, including Intertops, have that famous catch-all term, "recreational players only, no professional players or bonus abusers allowed". That's an option they can always apply, subject to their own interpretation. Just sayin.

Yes, I know, I call it the sloppy ploppy only rule. All affiliates should never take on any casino with that rule in their terms in conditions. I will say it again, the affiliates hold all the power. Without the affiliates only a few online casinos would survive. And those places would have to have a really good reputation and spend a sh*t ton on marketing.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
AxelWolf
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May 9th, 2019 at 12:06:06 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I assure you it was a good play mathematically.

♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
MaxPen
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May 9th, 2019 at 12:12:33 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

And now you are ridding around in buses worth a few hundred K.



The bus that hit me recently was 6 years old and cost $797,156 new. I never knew those things cost that much. I always figured around 250k myself.
AxelWolf
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May 9th, 2019 at 12:25:26 AM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

The bus that hit me recently was 6 years old and cost $797,156 new. I never knew those things cost that much. I always figured around 250k myself.

I stand corrected.

♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
GWAE
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May 9th, 2019 at 3:42:17 AM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

The bus that hit me recently was 6 years old and cost $797,156 new. I never knew those things cost that much. I always figured around 250k myself.



Wait what's this story
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darkoz
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May 9th, 2019 at 4:35:37 AM permalink
Quote: GWAE

Wait what's this story



Its his most recent AP move.

Innocuously talk to homeless people at a bus depot so it appears he didnt notice the oncoming bus as he steps into the street and WHAMO

Instant lawsuit.

EDIT: I do hope in seriousness it wasnt too bad an incident. I'm too kindhearted to make too much jest of a bus accident.
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May 9th, 2019 at 4:57:32 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

In other news, Intertops has questioned by withdrawal attempt of the $800 I had left, saying I had activity from a state other than where I lived. I can say I honestly always played from my own computer here in Vegas.

This spurious Bullspit has to be the last nail in their coffin. Rogue for sure.
They may start to play nice when they realise who you are, but honestly:

They don't deserve any benefit of the doubt. Label them for what they are.
Take care out there. Spare a thought for the newly poor who were happy in their world just a few days ago, but whose whole way of life just collapsed..
Wizard
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May 9th, 2019 at 6:22:02 AM permalink
I hate to quote without sources, but the word on the streets is I'm far from the only one to be affected. Intertops has been seizing money from money other people with little explanation. Here is an Email chain a friend of a friend had with them.

Quote: Intertops Email chain

------------------- Original Message -------------------

From: REDACTED

Received: 06/12/2018

To: casino@intertops.ag

Subject: cannot log into my account


Dear Intertops,


My name is REDACTED. I tried to log into my account this morning and received a "username/password" error. I requested a new password be sent to my e-mail account. So far I haven't received this e-mail. My username is "REDACTED." Can you please help me log back into my account. Thank you.


Sincerely,


REDACTED




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On Thursday, December 6, 2018, .... PM PST, casino@intertops.ag wrote:




Hi REDACTED,


Thanks for contacting Intertops Customer Support.


Your Account has been reviewed by our Security Department, as it raised some Security Flags and was closed after Investigation.

Please note that this cannot be reversed as your details are listed in a negative database and therefore the Account will remain closed.


Kind regards,


kesh.

Intertops Customer Support




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------------------- Original Message -------------------

From: REDACTED

Received: 06/12/2018

To: casino@intertops.ag

Subject: Re: cannot log into my account



Dear Kesh,


I have a balance of approximately $19,000 that needs to paid before you can just close my account without any explanation? Please provide me with a legitimate explanation of these so-called "Security Flags." More importantly, please pay me winnings at $2,500 per week as per your terms and THEN if you do not want me to play at your casino, I will accept that. But you must honor my winnings as I won them FAIRLY.


Regards,


REDACTED




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On Thursday, December 6, 2018, .... PM PST, casino@intertops.ag wrote:



Hello REDACTED,


Thank you for contacting Intertops Customer Support.

We are seeing that the account has some security issues and because of this the account was disabled.

With this being said, Intertops reserves the right to audit all requests for pay-outs and to reclaim any bonuses or winnings that have been accorded prior to a failed audit.

Our apologies for any inconvenience but we are no longer able to host an account for you.

Hoping that you find a Casino that pleases you in the near future.


Regards,

Nicole.




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------------------- Original Message -------------------

From: REDACTED

Received: 23/01/2019

To: casino@intertops.ag

Subject: Re: cannot log into my account


Dear Nicole,


I have just returned from my Holiday and see that my account is STILL not open. Please open it immediately so that I can withdraw my winnings. If you refuse you leave me no choice but to contact website forums, the Casinomeister and others to discuss your casino's outright theft of my legitimate winnings. I am happy to discuss this via e-mail or telephone, but you need to pay me my winnings. This is no way to treat a player.


Regards,


REDACTED




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----- Forwarded Message -----
From: casino@intertops.ag <casino@intertops.ag>
To: REDACTED <REDACTED@YAHOO.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019, 3:16:29 PM PST
Subject: RE: Re: cannot log into my account

Dear REDACTED,

Thank you for making Intertops your gaming choice!

Your account has been closed for security issues, it will not be re-opened. Thank you for contacting us.

We invite you to come and Chat with us to find out our hottest games!

Should you require any further information or assistance, please feel free to contact us anytime.

Enjoy playing in the Casino!

Best regards,

Louis

Intertops Casino Support

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Toll Free: 00-800-3344-3322

Regular Number: +1-268-480-3101

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