lilredrooster
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March 9th, 2018 at 4:54:30 AM permalink
I have just one last thing to say. For purposes of comparison.

I've been betting horses on legal online U.S. racebooks for more than a decade.

I've milked bonuses from several of them.

I've never encountered anything remotely like what the OP indicated.

I constantly follow news about horse racing and horse race betting.

I've never EVEN HEARD OR READ ABOUT anything remotely similar to what the OP is describing.

I've never EVEN HEARD OR READ ABOUT any complaint at all about any of these books (except for a complaint about books who were refusing action from bettors who were plunging into minus pools causing books to lose money which is otherwise impossible with parimutuel wagering and is not relevant to this discussion).
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March 9th, 2018 at 5:15:01 AM permalink
It matters a lot what kind of games and which of the sites you have account, not all of them are unsafe, if you need an example gaminator . com is a safe site. I have been using it for a long time
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March 9th, 2018 at 5:26:54 AM permalink
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Terms and Conditions of many online casinos require a 1x playthrough requirement on deposited funds even if no bonus was taken.

A. It proves the player intended to play.

B. The casinos are worried that a player might deposit money, withdraw and immediately request a chargeback. They have almost zero recourse if a player does that. The casino cuts a check for the deposited funds, it gets cashed and the player reverses the credit card transaction.



Your reply actually makes a lot of sense. I just assumed the online Casino were being jerks for not giving back unplayed money. Your explanation of the player possibly getting extra money for literally playing nothing is a good deterrent for online Casinos not to give back unplayed money. :)
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March 9th, 2018 at 7:07:48 AM permalink
On-line gambling is against the law in many U.S. states. This is not a barrier to opening an account and depositing money with an on-line casino, but if you try to withdraw your money - well, all of a sudden, the on-line casino wants to check the location of your residence.

That's why a copy of a recent utility bill is requested - principally so that online casinos can keep your money if you live in a state where on-line gambling is illegal.
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Mission146
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March 9th, 2018 at 4:48:39 PM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

On-line gambling is against the law in many U.S. states. This is not a barrier to opening an account and depositing money with an on-line casino, but if you try to withdraw your money - well, all of a sudden, the on-line casino wants to check the location of your residence.

That's why a copy of a recent utility bill is requested - principally so that online casinos can keep your money if you live in a state where on-line gambling is illegal.



Maybe the shadier ones, though I've not heard of it being denied for that reason. Besides that, the player puts in what state he/she is from upon sign-up, so any casinos refusing payout based on state should definitely be outed if that is the case. The better online casinos exclude some states for those reasons and other states because they already have regulated online gambling through the state. You can't play Bovada in NJ, for example.
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weezrDASvegas
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August 28th, 2018 at 3:18:55 PM permalink
Quote: DrawingDead

Mmmmkay, so now everyone here with an ounce of everyday commonsense judgment knows what the OP is up to, without any need to resort to a label that isn't allowed under the rules here...
But. Some of the replies are more egregious, given where they come from, and should be corrected here. I don't give enough of a flying fork about this forum to engage in any back forth at all, so I won't, but just to raise a red flag & provoke anyone stumbling across this to investigate further, and be a bit more diligent than impulsive gambling web--forum denizens.

The assertion that those withdrawal requirements would be anything like normal, outside of the unique world of the little Bannannastan based offshore enterprises that choose to operate in the US outside of the law & regulatory requirements (and are therefore banned by reciprocal agreement in most other countries) is complete utter nonsense.

This is what is actually required to cash out from the licensed legitimate online sites which do not operate illegally in the United States:

A) In person at a brick and mortar location within the State where where they are licensed to operate, as follows: 1. show up; 2. show a license or other gov't issued picture ID at the cashier window; 3. sign a withdrawal slip; and receive IMMEDIATE payment in cash, as REQUIRED BY GAMING REGULATORS. In Nevada this is how all transactions involving any type of online betting accounts normally occur (outside of some special circumstances) and this is also readily available for all legal online gambling accounts in the US (definitely including NJ - since that State's legal gambling was specifically alleged to require jumping through the same ludicrous transparently shady hoops).

B) Elsewhere ( again notably NJ) as an alternative choice in addition to in-person cash withdrawal: In order to be paid either by mail in the form of a check made out to the account owner and sent to their address of record in the account, or else by an electronic "ACH" transfer (the Automated Clearing House network used by all legitimate financial institutions) to the bank account you chose to link to your online account with the nine digit ABA routing number + account number, or other of several other options of your choice, requires the following procedure: 1. log into your account using your online account ID & password, 2. type in the amount; 3. select your preferred method of payment; 4. and click. Period. Done.

NO licensed gambling site in the US requires anything like the transparently ridiculous bullspit described in the OP, nor will they. Not only because almost nobody would be stupid enough to do business with them, but more importantly because they can't. To do so would mean fines, license suspensions, and potentially license revocations. I've got multiple online betting account from which I've withdrawn funds many times, and I've read the gaming regs which are readily available online from the the relevant State licensing authorities (or simply by ASKING for chrissakes) including NJ DGE (New Jersey Division of Gaming Enforcement) & the NGCB (Nevada Gaming Control Board).

Given the inevitable potential for conflicts of interest & unavoidable uncertainty about the integrity of information that naturally arises due to the nature of the ownership of this site, I think the people publicly associated with this forum would be wise to avoid the usual temptation around here to make up crap, to avoid earning a really unsavory reputation for all connected with it.


DrawingDead obviously is in the know as a legal spokesman of da formidable Nevada Gambling Commission. In this case and in my book, he/they is/R on da right side of Da Law. Yet, they allow the Mafialand kasinos in Das Vegas to abuse Da Law to the max when a blackjackie plyer wins a couple hondred bux 1ce in a blumoon! Disgusting oldphart mafiosi who now R incapable of getting up be4 noon!

The NFL real season(s) approach(es). I wanna bet again. Remember last season I buried da lizard (oops! wizard) in da superbowl frenzy. I beat him badly.

Now I came to my point. WHO YOU GONNA TRUST?

Last superbowel I trusted da lizard and his reviews of online casinos open to US bettors. They ALL was really really bad. The reviews they said was written by wizard were mighty deceiving. No doubt he is paid for writing da reviews as this domain is a gateway for da online casinos. they own da cyber place they own da lizard.

My question is what you gonna do? USA just started the online sportsbetting outside NevaDaMafiaLand but it aint nearly close to practical. Perchance next year will be A OK. But till then should we go with WoV’s reviews knowing they are grossly biased because of payments?

Look also at the respondents in dis very thread. They klaim they R “real players”. But what player in his right mind would jump at the throat of another real player who was badly mistreated by an online bandit?! Even da heartless Nevada Gambling Commission was sympathetic with me here (no krokodile tears there!)

YES! I labeled many of you as casino agents — I wont change my position. You was not smarty enough. U should have known that real players “flock together” when the “online vultures” try hard to ruff their feathers. Get smart… I doubt youll ever be able to…
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August 28th, 2018 at 6:27:32 PM permalink
Trust no one.
Anyone know this guy?

http://www.njconsumeraffairs.gov/News/Pages/08282018.aspx
anonbit
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September 20th, 2018 at 4:18:52 AM permalink
Lol, the original post looks like full of hate. Idk, it’s obvious that online casinos same as land-based ones want to earn money on their gamblers. And it’s also clear that the house always wins. But millions of people gamble online and have no problems. As for bonuses, there are two types: with wagering requirements for bonuses only and with those for the entire deposit. Try to avoid the last ones. But the first option is OK as far as it allows withdrawing your initial money regardless of bonus wagering current state. As for sensitive info, it’s OK as well. Casinos must meet KYC/AML (Know Your Customer/Anti-Money Laundering) requirements. This means that site owners want to be sure that you are responsible gambler, not a terrorist or criminal. So, such requirements are usual for casinos.
weezrDASvegas
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September 21st, 2018 at 10:11:41 AM permalink
Quote: anonbit

Lol, the original post looks like full of hate. Idk, it’s obvious that online casinos same as land-based ones want to earn money on their gamblers. And it’s also clear that the house always wins. But millions of people gamble online and have no problems. As for bonuses, there are two types: with wagering requirements for bonuses only and with those for the entire deposit. Try to avoid the last ones. But the first option is OK as far as it allows withdrawing your initial money regardless of bonus wagering current state. As for sensitive info, it’s OK as well. Casinos must meet KYC/AML (Know Your Customer/Anti-Money Laundering) requirements. This means that site owners want to be sure that you are responsible gambler, not a terrorist or criminal. So, such requirements are usual for casinos.


“[online bandits aka online casinos] want to be sure that you are responsible gambler, not a terrorist or criminal.”
Smoky smokes! This is the publicity stunt ovda 21 (blackjack!) century:

“We da online casinos save the world from terrorists!”

How ridiculous is that mates??? When you open account da “world saviours” dont care if u are terrorist or no. They take your money fast. But why would they think u turned terrorist after a win and try to withdraw your win??? cos they don’t want u to withdraw any money. keep all money in your account and keep betting. You da player face a negative edge and repeating betting will suck up all your funds.. that’s why the antiterror thing!!!

Hey mate just look at you: just registered here and jumped in this forum. You must be da most obvious casino agent ovda 21 (blackjack!) century!!! I labeled sum posters here as casino agents. I wont change my position its all crystal clear..

What player in his right mind would jump at the throat of another real player who was badly mistreated by da online bandits?! Even da heartless Nevada Gambling Commission agreed with me here! I aint infatuated with meself. More and more people avoid da online criminals not cos of my thread here. They learn from own experience what online gambling mafia is all about.

Did you read what fanduel tried to do to a smart bettor? They didn’t want to pay an 82-to-1 bet because ovan obvious error!! But they took da money ovda bettors who lost da same erroneous bet!!! In the end the New Jersey gov agency forced fanduel to pay da bet (82K). Luckily da bet was placed at the window not online in some bananastan…

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