Canyonero
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October 24th, 2014 at 8:23:35 AM permalink
You may have realized in my posts after the WOO sale and also during the Casinomeister crisis, that I am obsessed with wanting to believe in integrity in gambling. So I am quite sensitive about things that might hurt it, and here I go again:

On WOO, 32 Red Casino now carries the Wizard's Seal of approval:



On the 32 Red plc website you can read this (emphasis mine):

32Red was founded by Edward Ware, who left his position as Managing Director of Ladbrokes International in 2000 to pursue his vision of an independent, specialist online casino

So the question is: Is the seal intentionally or accidentally misleading?
DJTeddyBear
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October 24th, 2014 at 8:39:57 AM permalink
Accidental.

I think the year refers to when Mike started providing the seal of approval to anyone, not when that site first got it.
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1BB
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October 24th, 2014 at 9:09:28 AM permalink
I'm going to take an educated guess and say that the date refers to when the Wizard of Odds was founded. That would be July 19, 1997. Nothing untoward here.
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Zcore13
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October 24th, 2014 at 10:19:06 AM permalink
Quote: 1BB

I'm going to take an educated guess and say that the date refers to when the Wizard of Odds was founded. That would be July 19, 1997. Nothing untoward here.



I don't remember the Wiz ever giving a review on that Casino and giving his "Seal of Approval" to it??? That's the problem with the sale of his site. He stood for integrity and independent reviews and analysis. That's all changed now. I don't like it. I feel like it's tainted now.



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1BB
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October 24th, 2014 at 10:47:17 AM permalink
I see what you're saying. I was focusing on the date on the seal and not the whole picture. I have a feeling that there will be more of these questions as time goes on. I also wouldn't be surprised to see some changes in this forum going forward. It's no different than any other business.
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Ayecarumba
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October 24th, 2014 at 11:23:31 AM permalink


I can understand the confusion. Perhaps the "Since 1997" on the seal needs to be removed, or reworded, "Educating Players Since 1997"
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FleaStiff
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October 24th, 2014 at 11:28:37 AM permalink
The FleaStiff Seal of Approval is awarded with any date you want, depending upon the size of your check.
DJTeddyBear
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October 24th, 2014 at 11:51:55 AM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba



I can understand the confusion. Perhaps the "Since 1997" on the seal needs to be removed, or reworded, "Educating Players Since 1997"

Or "PROTECTING Players Since 1997" since that what any such seal intends to imply.
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Ayecarumba
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October 24th, 2014 at 12:04:42 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Quote: Ayecarumba



I can understand the confusion. Perhaps the "Since 1997" on the seal needs to be removed, or reworded, "Educating Players Since 1997"

Or "PROTECTING Players Since 1997" since that what any such seal intends to imply.



I wouldn't want someone to read too much into "Protecting". The "Good Houskeeping" seal has a whole bunch of text on it to spell out what their seal represents:

I don't think the WoO seal has the room to describe what the seal means. It doesn't mean that the Wizard will refund a player's money if they make high edge bets and lose.
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EvenBob
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October 24th, 2014 at 12:17:28 PM permalink
Does Mike approve of the casino, or is
it the new owners? Big difference.
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