BobDancer
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July 12th, 2017 at 8:01:52 PM permalink
We will be taping a show with Bob Nersesian Wednesday July 19, for posting July 20.

If you have any potential questions for him to be asked, they will be considered.
sixsisters
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July 12th, 2017 at 9:11:50 PM permalink
How long does Bob think it will be before he has his first SKILL BASED GAMING lawsuit? Game gaffed or misrepresented. I wish I knew the outcome of a woman who filed a $10 million class-action lawsuit against Detroit casinos, claiming that the bonus spin feature on Wheel of Fortune slot machines is programmed to pay off an abundance of lower awards.
FleaStiff
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July 12th, 2017 at 11:23:54 PM permalink
Quote: sixsisters

claiming that the bonus spin feature on Wheel of Fortune slot machines is programmed to pay off an abundance of lower awards.

Is there ever an abundance of higher awards?

I've noted a decline in civil behavior in casinos. Lots of moochers, petit scammers such as slot machine touts, arrogant dealers. Are casinos afraid to crack down?
AxelWolf
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DeMango
July 13th, 2017 at 2:13:27 AM permalink
When is Bob N retiring (not that I want him too) and who will fill his shoes. Who here in Vegas does he recommend other than himself?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
NokTang
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July 13th, 2017 at 6:23:21 AM permalink
I've asked here before, only to be ridiculed. I'm very curious if a casino can refuse to cash your chips, assuming they are representing money you've won or in fact, may have bought before winning more. The question remains because many of us don't have a Social Security Card but are quite willing to present valid ID.
MrV
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July 13th, 2017 at 7:26:05 AM permalink
Assume that someone hits a small jackpot, one that requires a hand pay: call it $1500 or so at slots.

Assume also that the player, for whatever reason, is adamant that he does NOT want the win reported to the IRS.

Given the above, can a player who won a hand pay make a deal with the casino to accept a reduced amount, say $1199, instead of the larger amount in order to avoid having the casino generate the otherwise mandatory W-2G / IRS notification?

It would be a win / win for both of them, if it is legal.
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Mosca
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July 13th, 2017 at 7:38:38 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Is there ever an abundance of higher awards?



I think that her point is that it isn't a truly random wheel. There are 22 spaces on a classic WoF slot, but the frequency of hits for the $1000 space isn't 1/22. Yeah, I know, who would have thunk it.

Edited to add, duh. I should realize you already knew this.
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Romes
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July 13th, 2017 at 7:40:00 AM permalink
Quote: NokTang

I've asked here before, only to be ridiculed. I'm very curious if a casino can refuse to cash your chips, assuming they are representing money you've won or in fact, may have bought before winning more. The question remains because many of us don't have a Social Security Card but are quite willing to present valid ID.

As Bob said on a previous show: The chips represent a debt owed by the casino and according to gaming regulations they are not allowed to "welch" on any gambling debt. They must honor and cash their chips. The only time they're not is if they have some kind of evidence/proof that you cheated to get them... but of course casinos quite often say "He counted cards, he cheated!" just to delay you, bring in the local police, get gaming involved, all while at the end of the day still being forced to cash your chips. They could also try to demand ID before cashing the chips, which if you definitely don't look 21, I don't believe you have to provide (unless it's a large sum for CTR/etc but even then you legally don't have to - they're supposed to take down the best physical description of you they can). I like to listen to Bob N =).

Q1: While there is precedence of hole carding not being illegal in some states, what could potentially happen if a casino in a state with no current cases wanted to get nasty about it? Understanding each state is independent, do you believe previous state precedence would hold?

Q2: While understandably not your jurisdiction, what is your opinion on how to handle casino comped cruise issues such as legal AP'ing on the cruise and having the casino manager of the cruise try to detain, arrest, or not pay you? Do they have more ability to do this since it's in international waters, or are the grounds of the boat still considered to be govern by American federal laws?

Q3: I was once offered a bunch of promotional chips seemingly out of the blue from a casino and all I had to do was come in and sign a promotional chip form. A small part of me thought it might be a setup to get me to come in so they could detain me, or to have me sign something I didn't want to sign. I have done nothing illegal, ever, in a casino. While it ended up working out just fine, and the form only discussed the promo chips, what legal recourse would I have if the casino had been setting me up to be detained or arrested? Is this legal for them to do if they think you cheated, say if they didn't understand what hole carding was?

Q4: Have you ever been able to solve an issue by calling or showing up to a casino and having them recognize who you were?
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
DRich
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July 13th, 2017 at 8:03:17 AM permalink
Quote: Romes

They could also try to demand ID before cashing the chips, which if you definitely don't look 21, I don't believe you have to provide (unless it's a large sum for CTR/etc but even then you legally don't have to - they're supposed to take down the best physical description of you they can). I like to listen to Bob N =).



The casinos I work with refuse to cash you out if you fail to present ID and the transaction would require the filing of a CTR. A Suspicious Activity Report would also be filed on you with the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network.
Romes
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July 13th, 2017 at 9:27:18 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

The casinos I work with refuse to cash you out if you fail to present ID and the transaction would require the filing of a CTR. A Suspicious Activity Report would also be filed on you with the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network.

They can refuse all they want, but if Gaming got involved they're "supposed" to make the casino honor the debt (chips) and pay you. Of course you're right, I'm sure a SAR report would quickly follow.
Playing it correctly means you've already won.

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