AcesAndEights
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January 12th, 2015 at 11:08:17 AM permalink
I haven't finished this episode yet, but I just got to the part where the police officer asks if they have more than $5K in the car and the guy lied and said no. I'm not necessarily saying this is the wrong thing to do (obviously it worked out for them), but I'm shocked that since the officers later discovered the ~$40K that his previous lie didn't cause problems.

I guess maybe it did and I should finish the episode :p. But anyway discuss here. Knowing the best way to avoid the forfeiture of your cash is a very important skill for APs.
"So drink gamble eat f***, because one day you will be dust." -ontariodealer
DRich
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January 12th, 2015 at 11:34:27 AM permalink
Quote: AcesAndEights

I haven't finished this episode yet, but I just got to the part where the police office asks if they have more than $5K in the car and the guy lied and said no. I'm not necessarily saying this is the wrong thing to do (obviously it worked out for them), but I'm shocked that since the officers later discovered the ~$40K that his previous lie didn't cause problems.

I guess maybe it did and I should finish the episode :p. But anyway discuss here. Knowing the best way to avoid the forfeiture of your cash is a very important skill for APs.



I think the biggest mistake they made was answering the question in the first place.
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AxelWolf
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January 12th, 2015 at 11:40:02 AM permalink
Quote: AcesAndEights

I haven't finished this episode yet, but I just got to the part where the police office asks if they have more than $5K in the car and the guy lied and said no. I'm not necessarily saying this is the wrong thing to do (obviously it worked out for them), but I'm shocked that since the officers later discovered the ~$40K that his previous lie didn't cause problems.

I guess maybe it did and I should finish the episode :p. But anyway discuss here. Knowing the best way to avoid the forfeiture of your cash is a very important skill for APs.

There's no best ways that are convenient.

Scratch that.... apparently pill bottles work like a charm.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
RS
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January 12th, 2015 at 11:40:11 AM permalink
I literally just finished that episode....and haven't listened to any GWAE's in a long time. Coincidence?


At the end, he goes on to say that he kept his W2G's and other record keeping. So he could show the cops "these W2G's are proof the money is legal" and all that.


As far as lying (saying you don't have $5K+).....I don't really know.
AxelWolf
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January 12th, 2015 at 11:42:14 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

I think the biggest mistake they made was answering the question in the first place.

Once they start asking you that..... you're probably screwed. Doggie always hits on something.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
AcesAndEights
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January 12th, 2015 at 12:22:27 PM permalink
Quote: RS

At the end, he goes on to say that he kept his W2G's and other record keeping. So he could show the cops "these W2G's are proof the money is legal" and all that


Doesn't help if you never play machines. You can keep bank receipts (I do that), but I imagine that might not help much.
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AcesAndEights
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January 12th, 2015 at 1:47:53 PM permalink
Almost done wit the episode, but done with the cash part. I think they got really lucky, especially with the direction they were traveling. But they also had tons of documentation with them, which no doubt helped a lot. I rarely drive with lots of cash, but I do occasionally fly. My gambling records are in a spreadsheet, but I could probably print them off in a reasonable fashion and stick them in my briefcase. Think I'll do that next time.

I'm glad Munchkin mentioned the possibility of keeping the cash cash on your person. This came to my mind as well. Sure the drug dog provides a convenient end-run around the 4th amendment (really wish someone would do something about that...) but it seems like they usually have the dog alert on the car. And if the cash is on your person, they won't find it. Not foolproof, but another thing to keep in mind. $40K would be a lot for one person to carry, but $20K each would have been easily doable.

I am amazed at Munchkin's amazement about bank receipts! Anyone else? My bank will always give a receipt, right on top of the stack of cash. In fact I have to ask them to throw it out if I don't want it. It's the default.

The VP machine story at the end of the episode sounds like Mickey's wet dream.
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EvenBob
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January 12th, 2015 at 3:12:27 PM permalink
I like how 8-10 other cops showed up
and were all smiles at the windfall.
Modern day stagecoach robbers is
all they are. Imagine their disappointment
in having to give it all back. My question
for these guys would have been if they
knew this was a bad road to be on, why
were they on it.
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal
EvenBob
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January 12th, 2015 at 3:15:35 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf



Scratch that.... apparently pill bottles work like a charm.



In this case a bottle of cash in your
pocket would have slipped by them.
You, of course, who wants everybody
to know how much you're worth at
all times, would have had the cash
strewn all over the back seat. The
cops would have let you go after you
went on and on for 2 hours about what
a great AP you are.
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal
Hunterhill
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January 12th, 2015 at 3:20:43 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I like how 8-10 other cops showed up
and were all smiles at the windfall.
Modern day stagecoach robbers is
all they are. Imagine their disappointment
in having to give it all back. My question
for these guys would have been if they
knew this was a bad road to be on, why
were they on it.

You can't avoid everything. If there are opportunities you have to weigh the odds if it's worth it or not.
I take all the precautions I can and hope for the best but plan for the worst.
The mountain is tall but grass grows on top of the mountain.

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