Dice setter meetup at ELEMENTS casino, Brantford
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Watchmewin: Do you live near PA? It's a much closer drive for me and I want to see if there is any truth to what you are saying about winning at craps.
Where do you play?
Quote: MrVNokTang, I play craps and I think I understand your point about streaks, but there is one problem: how does a craps player know when the streak has begun, and that it is time to increase the betting amount?
Craps isn't like bj where a favorable count mathematically cues the counter to increase his bet.
So when does a streak begin: after twenty rolls without a seven out, or after two or three points in a row are made?
When?
Please describe, specifically, the relevant criteria for this determination.
Good morning...
Let's leave place bets out of the friendly discussion...
I play black chips, but will describe it in units...
I place one unit on the Pass or Don't pass, depending on my general mood.
If the first/single unit wins, I double it to two units.
If the two unit bet wins, I go to three units.
If the three unit bet wins, I go to four units.
If the four unit wins, I "think" I'm in a streak and go to five units.
Then the five unit bet wins...What do you do? Are you "nervous" with a $500,.usd wager? Hell yes??
Having the courage and girth to continue pressing separates the men from the boys. I've been stupid many times and not done so. That remains my point...If you are on a streak, go baby go.
This applies in roulette, easily applies, as red/black, odd/even, high/low. You can in fact as you well know, in roulette, have all three going at once. In Baccarat it's either player/banker and you ignore the 5% on the banker as gravy at that point....
Thank you and good luck. Once you lose, and you will at some point, either back to one unit or color up and head for the steakhouse or brothel.
Here is a link to a super-aggressive play from a guy on a now-defunct craps board: the play is "tough craps;" tell me what you think about it.
link to Tough Craps (cliick on to Tom's opening post for an explanation)
Quote: MrVI'm no stranger to pressing.
Here is a link to a super-aggressive play from a guy on a now-defunct craps board: the play is "tough craps;" tell me what you think about it.
link to Tough Craps (cliick on to Tom's opening post for an explanation)
Tomp passed last December
Quote: MrVI'm no stranger to pressing.
Here is a link to a super-aggressive play from a guy on a now-defunct craps board: the play is "tough craps;" tell me what you think about it.
link to Tough Craps (cliick on to Tom's opening post for an explanation)
Thanks...I read it, I think I did anyhow.....It's not confusing as I understand of course the come bet and taking full odds....but don't see that as a streak....when I refer to a streak there are only two possible outcomes on each wager...I mentioned the roulette above but IMHO if your focus is muddled with various if's/then's you lose the fun aspect of it all. I can do it in roulette but again, the amounts "scare" me if I digress with three wagering platforms and $300.usd on the "first" bet. I prefer one with a large progressive press to capture the streak and take advantage of it. I'm in the game to win of course but don't want it to be work and stressful beyond the one decision. Humm...I need to switch to a bloody mary from this coffee.
LMD I will pay your flight and a hotel at "the cal" in vegas for three nights. Thereare 8 casinos in walking distance i can think of for you to find s tsble to your liking. I will be in town June 11th to the 15th staying at the same hotel.
If you cant find a table we can move around vegas until you find the table you like. No bets etc.
I am sure there are enough people in this thread who would chio in 20 bucks to defray my cost for 3 days of entertainment (you failing) or the money making opportunity of a lifetime.
As far as discussion about hitting streaks
I play the pass line for 5 and 2x odds and place inside unless the point is 4 or 10 then i go across for the extra 5 bucks (dont place the point)
After 2 numers hit on an inside bet ($14 return on 16 or 17 bet) i press the 3rd number hit and am down 1-2 dollars if shooter 7's out. If not a press thr next number (or if an alredy pressed number is hit i tske the 4 and 10) then i press $5 or 6 each time the number is hit.
Not as profitable on these stresks as pressing all the way every time but gets my pass line bets to even then starts making me money.
I look at passline and place bwts as two seperate entities like a baseball and football bet with no relation to each other and my pass line bet rately varies from table minimum and 2x odds to 5x odds. This makes sure I hit the streaks and make nice profits but also keeps me in the game longer not prrssing every number.
Quote: troopscottBeen a while since i have been on and somehow wasted an hour reading this thread.
LMD I will pay your flight and a hotel at "the cal" in vegas for three nights.
Hi Troopscott,
LayMeDown has been permanently banned from here. So don't expect him to reply.
Quote: OnceDearHi Troopscott,
LayMeDown has been permanently banned from here. So don't expect him to reply.
Thanks didnt see that
Quote: troopscottThanks didnt see that
Dont be surprised if you find him popping up on some threads with a new alias, as so many people on here do. Im sure his writing style will go detected eventually. Some people just have tooooo much time on their hands.
At some point early on, I highly suspected it was him and mentioned that to someone privately, however, I seem to catch flack anytime I accuse someone of sockpuppetry, so I just figured I would play along.Quote: WatchMeWinDont be surprised if you find him popping up on some threads with a new alias, as so many people on here do. Im sure his writing style will go detected eventually. Some people just have tooooo much time on their hands.
IIRC he had already made some commitment to something long ago, I can't remember exactly what he said he was going to do, but he obviously flaked on that.
For the record, I actully found him entertaining, I had nothing against the guy, I have no idea what the deal is with him and his unconventional(wrong) thinking when it comes to gambling. I guess I can say the same thing about you. I can't even remember why he got banned the first time around?
Now we just need to get you to Vegas so we can watchyouwin at craps. When you get banned, will you make a sockpuppet as well? (-;
p.s. Apparently, he went off the rails on another forum. He said he is turning WOV into homeland security or somthing like that.
Quote: AxelWolfAt some point early on, I highly suspected it was him and mentioned that to someone privately, however, I seem to catch flack anytime I accuse someone of sockpuppetry, so I just figured I would play along.
IIRC he had already made some commitment to something long ago, I can't remember exactly what he said he was going to do, but he obviously flaked on that.
For the record, I actully found him entertaining, I had nothing against the guy, I have no idea what the deal is with him and his unconventional(wrong) thinking when it comes to gambling. I guess I can say the same thing about you. I can't even remember why he got banned the first time around?
Now we just need to get you to Vegas so we can watchyouwin at craps. When you get banned, will you make a sockpuppet as well? (-;
p.s. Apparently, he went off the rails on another forum. He said he is turning WOV into homeland security or somthing like that.
Oh axel, silly rabbit ...trix are for kids, playa . I dont make a life out of forums. You may have other aliases here, but that is not my cup of tea. I have lots going on in my life .. I enjoy many of the good minds on this site, and find many others humorous and sad. You can figure out where you land. As far as getting banned, I dont think i would ever warrant that.... unless we met up in Vegas and I complimented you on your pantyhose. haha
If you have noticed, I havent posted any of my craps playing for a while. Its not worth it. I do what I do and I go about my biz. All positive. Still winning consistently in craps .. and doing well in sports too.
Quote: WatchMeWinWhere do you play?
rocky gap in MD
Quote: OnceDearHi Troopscott,
LayMeDown has been permanently banned from here. So don't expect him to reply.
No, but he does post on other forums without being trolled by other members of those forums. Today, Saturday, he will be playing at Brantford from 11 AM till 10 PM, trying out a system which worked at Fallsview. Follow his adventures at CrapsForum, posting as "Buckshot" or GamblersForum posting as Varmenti. Really nice guy.
Quote: DeMangoNo, but he does post on other forums without being trolled by other members of those forums. Today, Saturday, he will be playing at Brantford from 11 AM till 10 PM, trying out a system which worked at Fallsview. Follow his adventures at CrapsForum, posting as "Buckshot" or GamblersForum posting as Varmenti. Really nice guy.
So he was Varmenti on here as well? So he got banned twice?
Quote: DeMangoyup, he was not very good at disguising himself
He seems very passionate about the game he loves. It's a shame he can't follow the rules here.
It's "always" a new game.Quote: alphastormHe seems very passionate about the game he loves. It's a shame he can't follow the rules here.
Quote: AxelWolfIt's "always" a new game.
Thats how snake oil salesman work.
Quote: alphastormHe seems very passionate about the game he loves. It's a shame he can't follow the rules here.
flustered, eventually, by the professional trolls on this board. Just upto but not crossing the line.
Quote: DeMangoflustered, eventually, by the professional trolls on this board. Just upto but not crossing the line.
This isn't the place to peddle voodoo trash such as DI/DC
hundreds of guys posting hundreds of systems either claiming or implying that they are winners
with all of these hundreds of guys and hundreds of progression and bet selection systems not one has ever been proven to be a winner
which is better? to troll these guys pumping this garbage? or to troll the general public with these bogus systems?
Quote: lilredroosterCrapsForums.com and gamblingforums.com:
hundreds of guys posting hundreds of systems either claiming or implying that they are winners
with all of these hundreds of guys and hundreds of progression and bet selection systems not one has ever been proven to be a winner
which is better? to troll these guys pumping this garbage? or to troll the general public with these bogus systems?
They can't win when they're posting all damn day and night.
Not only that, they always change their "systems." Why change if it supposedly works so well???
Quote: IbeatyouracesThis isn't the place to peddle voodoo trash such as DI/DC
Last time I replied to you that I have the mathematical proof, I heard crickets. My proof uses Chi Square. Your proof is called wishful thinking. OTOH, I will not claim, nor does he, that Vince employes DI. I suppose the argument could be made of "Rhythmic Rolling", by the worlds greatest gaming author, Scoblete.
Quote: Ibeatyouraces
They can't win when they're posting all damn day and night.
I was thinking the same thing about the prolific posters here on this site.
Quote: DeMangoLast time I replied to you that I have the mathematical proof, I heard crickets. My proof uses Chi Square. Your proof is called wishful thinking. OTOH, I will not claim, nor does he, that Vince employes DI. I suppose the argument could be made of "Rhythmic Rolling", by the worlds greatest gaming author, Scoblete.
No crickets here. You have mathematical proof of what? That you can 'control the dice'?
Quote: DeMango...by the worlds greatest gaming author, Scoblete.
James Grosjean, and MANY other well respected AP's and gaming experts will completely disagree with this statement!
Quote: SOOPOONo crickets here. You have mathematical proof of what? That you can 'control the dice'?
They have nothing but positive variance on what's in the past.
Quote: IbeatyouracesJames Grosjean, and MANY other well respected AP's and gaming experts will completely disagree with this statement!
No argument here.
Quote: IbeatyouracesThey have nothing but positive variance on what's in the past.
It's called Excel. The program comes with a Chi Square attachment.
Quote: IbeatyouracesBTW, I'm retired from active AP, so I have plenty of time to read and post now.
Then you are off my hook. There is still (I'm gonna catch EB) Axle.
Quote: phoenix219laymedown, sorry to bug ya but are you looking still for good dice setters?
If there was anyone good would they be stupid enough to advertise??
Vince no longer posts at other dice boards that I’m aware of.
Quote: alphastorm
...Laymedown you remind me of John Patrick. He is always promoting some crappy system or hedging play. Just read his book "advanced craps". I bet you believe in the same things he does.
Here is a craps system that claims to be "...the absolute BEST craps method there has ever been, or ever will be, in gambling history. period."
http://www.progamblingsystems.com/craps#5-by-5-system
Update: I won on my first 5 rolls
Update 2: I am still winning
Update 3: I lost all my money : (
Sigh, I guess that is why the Wiz says All betting systems are worthless
You paid money for this? Dude!Quote: ksdjdjHere is a craps system that claims to be ...
Quote: odiousgambitYou paid money for this? Dude!
No, I was just posting another example of a "worthless"*** system
***: at least 99.99% confident that it is worthless (but happy to be proven wrong).
Here is another claim by the "craps system" that I previously posted
"...Play with 32,768:1 Probability in YOUR Favor or 99.99694% Chance of Winning with (FSS)!"
BTW, I don't believe in systems where the "chance of winning" is more than 99%, ; )
Update: I love this quote about 80% down the page (see re-post of link below)
"Bet on BOTH Pass and Don't Pass at the Same Time, and STILL Profit!"
Note: I personally don't know how you can "profit" betting both sides "at the Same Time"
http://www.progamblingsystems.com/craps#frankenstein-system-series-for-craps
Does Harley still post over there?Quote: DeMangoVince has reappeared at CrapsForum, with lots of new positive progressions. Apologized for being away so long. His handle there is Buckshot.
Yes, he never came back as Bohemian, but as TR31 and Eagleeyes2. He was banned as Harley. Reliable reports has him living in his truck.Quote: petroglyphDoes Harley still post over there?
you posted stuff that sounded like your actual results using the system , which , from what I could tell, is only revealed to those who purchase. So i didn't know it was 'pretend'Quote: ksdjdjNo, I was just posting another example of a "worthless"*** system
Check yo sarcasm detector. Appears to be broken.Quote: odiousgambityou posted stuff that sounded like your actual results using the system , which , from what I could tell, is only revealed to those who purchase. So i didn't know it was 'pretend'
