you guys need to level up your borg, yo

Has anyone yet investigated building a robotic-arm dice thrower (with integrated highspeed camera) to replicate optimal throwing conditions, and automate the collection of game results?

It seems to reason that if you take the human element out of the equation, the possibility of the physics of DI becomes immediately resolvable. Make a robot that can throw a pair of dice under precise conditions, record the value of 100k+ throws, develop a metric for setting the die faces to determine outcome.

Alternately, put a motion tracking suit on (perhaps with integrated TENS muscle stim), and write software algos to train your arm muscles for optimal repeatable memory. Become the ultimate cybernetic DI guru, and see if you can get 86ed from every casino with a craps table in existence.

If (after sufficient training) a surgeon can slice the right spot within fractions of a millimeter, every time, right on time -- some trained money should be able to make two little pieces of polycarbonate plastic bounce the same way off of the same felt diamonds and padded surface, more than 60% of the time... one would think.

BTW if any of you enterprising types actually end up with a prototype of some crazy shit like this, I call dibs on a spot on the beta-testing team. If you want to prototype some shit like this, inbox me.

Here we go again!

Quote: loldongs

BTW if any of you enterprising types actually end up with a prototype of some crazy shit like this, I call dibs on a spot on the beta-testing team. If you want to prototype some shit like this, inbox me.

Here are some thoughts to ponder:

If you have an idea, take action, run with it, and make it happen yourself.
Ideas without execution are just hallucinations... ~Albert Einstein~

Dont just be that idea guy... make shit happen! If you believe in it wholeheartedly, no one is a greater believer in you than you!

Quote: loldongs

Has anyone yet investigated building a robotic-arm dice thrower

I heard they were working on one at CalTech, but I think it got re-purposed...

Quote: loldongs

Has anyone yet investigated building a robotic-arm dice thrower (with integrated highspeed camera) to replicate optimal throwing conditions, and automate the collection of game results?

It seems to reason that if you take the human element out of the equation, the possibility of the physics of DI becomes immediately resolvable. Make a robot that can throw a pair of dice under precise conditions, record the value of 100k+ throws, develop a metric for setting the die faces to determine outcome.

Alternately, put a motion tracking suit on (perhaps with integrated TENS muscle stim), and write software algos to train your arm muscles for optimal repeatable memory. Become the ultimate cybernetic DI guru, and see if you can get 86ed from every casino with a craps table in existence.

If (after sufficient training) a surgeon can slice the right spot within fractions of a millimeter, every time, right on time -- some trained money should be able to make two little pieces of polycarbonate plastic bounce the same way off of the same felt diamonds and padded surface, more than 60% of the time... one would think.

So, what if it worked? You think you can drag it into a casino and win a bunch of money?

I'd chop off an arm and attach it to me so I can win lots of money.

Quote: standbymyman

So, what if it worked? You think you can drag it into a casino and win a bunch of money?

I can't even take my phone out at a casino table, let alone a robot

Wish they didn't put warnings on plastic bags saying they're not toys. You totes can.

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So, what if it worked? You think you can drag it into a casino and win a bunch of money?

if it works, then you don't need to drag it anywhere -- you just use it to train yourself over time to throw dice as precisely as the machine, and then you cash outtttttttt.

Quote: loldongs

if it works, then you don't need to drag it anywhere -- you just use it to train yourself over time to throw dice as precisely as the machine, and then you cash outtttttttt.

Humans are much less likely to be accurate. I would like to see a robot accurate enough to dice influence though. Some guy hasn't done this yet? haha The big problem is that pesky wall.

Quote: tringlomane

Humans are much less likely to be accurate. I would like to see a robot accurate enough to dice influence though. Some guy hasn't done this yet? haha The big problem is that pesky wall.

pretty sure physics is physics, and you can train a robot arm to throw precisely enough to ensure a repeatable bounce more than half the time. if a smartphone can clock the deceleration of angular momentum of a roulette ball and the wheel moving in opposite enough directions to determine the quadrant or 4-block of landing numbers in realtime...

Yes it was already done by the team of people that proved throwing a pair of dice is deterministic:
http://kapitaniak.kdm.p.lodz.pl/papers/2012/Kapitaniak_Strzalko_Grabski_Kapitaniak.pdf

Quote: DiscreteMaths2

Yes it was already done by the team of people that proved throwing a pair of dice is deterministic:
http://kapitaniak.kdm.p.lodz.pl/papers/2012/Kapitaniak_Strzalko_Grabski_Kapitaniak.pdf

AWWWW YISSSSSSSSSSSS.

This has all been done before:

That Stanford statistics professor of Greek heritage who used to be a magician found that crooked dice didn't even give him an edge that countered all the mistakes his graduate research assistants made in logging the data.

As for a robotic arm, one is available for forty dollars and up. Not a kit, all set to go.

Taking such equipment into a casino is absurd... even if you are Phil Ivey.

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