NokTang
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July 10th, 2014 at 6:46:55 PM permalink
It may have been discussed prior, but I downloaded this title from memory and have had difficulty getting past a few minutes. The dice are flying everywhere yet the instructor says they are under control? Nine rolls without a seven is some kind of record and proof of control?

Should I continue or is it just another sales presentation aka "infomercial"?
Dicenor33
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July 10th, 2014 at 7:12:52 PM permalink
Go to any casino, my friend. You'll see almost every table has a DI. They stand next to a stickman and they try to keep both dice parallel. See how much money they make and you get the answer to your question. These people have a dream to win a lot of money, see if it comes true. Let us know of your findings.
NokTang
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July 10th, 2014 at 7:24:47 PM permalink
Quote: Dicenor33

Go to any casino, my friend. You'll see almost every table has a DI. They stand next to a stickman and they try to keep both dice parallel. See how much money they make and you get the answer to your question. These people have a dream to win a lot of money, see if it comes true. Let us know of your findings.



The video was, at least in the beginning, making it all look like a serious activity? Set the dice, don't release them but let them fall off your fingers by their own gravitational force, amazing stuff but got boring quick. My question remains, force myself through the entire thing or just once again chalk it up to an infomercial on changing random events? Had/if you saw the dice when they hit the felt fly like horseflies(as they always do) you yourself would be knocking your head against a urine soaked concrete wall wondering how someone could say such a ricochet was controlled and avoids the seven.....
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July 10th, 2014 at 8:44:40 PM permalink
If you've never watched it then maybe it's worth it. Either way I can assure you there are people winning at craps and those methods are not in GTC or anywhere on forums/dvds and they may not totally be considered fair play for some. In the end it's all a matter of what the casino will permit. If you stake out the tables for a Dice influencer maybe you'll see something you haven't seen before... A lot of different and unexpected things can happen in the wild.
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July 10th, 2014 at 10:57:25 PM permalink
Banned, for winning too much at craps.

Frank and the Dominator

Frank Scoblete sometimes posts here; maybe he'll tell how "we've beaten the casinos for 20 years."

Hey, it was on TV, so it must be true, right?

I mean, they wouldn't make this stuff up, would they?
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kewlj
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July 10th, 2014 at 10:59:56 PM permalink
This thread has disaster written all over it. Disaster or entertainment, depending on how you view such threads. :)
Just say no to 6:5 Blackjack, Continuous shuffle machines and Blackjack the Forum. All are Negative expected value.
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July 11th, 2014 at 12:19:16 AM permalink
Quote: NokTang

Should I continue or is it just another sales presentation aka "infomercial"?

Oh, that is your decision whether to continue with it or not, but it is indeed an infomercial and if they ain't at least giving you free drinks, don't bother watching it.

As suggested, go to an actual table and see the real world. All those people who paid for seminars should have used that money to buy in and have a good time instead.
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July 11th, 2014 at 12:32:13 AM permalink
I'd rather buy and stable a unicorn then purchase a dice control class. It's more real and believable.
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NokTang
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July 11th, 2014 at 12:59:46 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

Banned, for winning too much at craps.

Frank and the Dominator

Frank Scoblete sometimes posts here; maybe he'll tell how "we've beaten the casinos for 20 years."

Hey, it was on TV, so it must be true, right?

I mean, they wouldn't make this stuff up, would they?



An excellent link. Thanks.
NokTang
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July 11th, 2014 at 1:10:41 AM permalink
Quote: nickolay411

If you've never watched it then maybe it's worth it. Either way I can assure you there are people winning at craps and those methods are not in GTC or anywhere on forums/dvds and they may not totally be considered fair play for some. In the end it's all a matter of what the casino will permit. If you stake out the tables for a Dice influencer maybe you'll see something you haven't seen before... A lot of different and unexpected things can happen in the wild.



The only method would be to cheat in some fashion. Not many casinos will have people good enough to "catch" a real pro. If it can happen at the Wynn(I refer to dice sliding) it can and does happen other places. One would assume the Wynn has some of the most professional and best people at all levels. However, your point is valid and respected. Gidday.

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