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February 7th, 2013 at 6:37:45 PM
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Quote: Ahighhttp://www.cardking.info/article.asp?id=249
I personally watched Ivey lose about $220,000 in a single shoe of mini-bacc at the borgata in 2012 so maybe baccarat has replaced craps as his preferred game.
February 7th, 2013 at 6:47:31 PM
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excellent link......once you can get to the place in your mind where money means absoulty nothing....a la Archie Karas....one is freed up for the big score.Quote: MrVNice link, Aaron: very interesting.
He's a big boy, playing at the highest level.
The question of course is: has he pissed it all away at the craps table?
Then again, maybe he doesn't really care.
Each day is better than the next
February 8th, 2013 at 6:57:30 AM
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http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/magazine/archives/news/story?page=magazine-20091102-article21
"Dice, verily, are armed with goads and driving-hooks, deceiving and tormenting, causing grievous woe." -Rig Veda 10.34.4
February 8th, 2013 at 7:26:50 AM
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Just buy a freaking network already!
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You want the truth! You can't handle the truth!
February 8th, 2013 at 7:27:59 AM
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"win or lose, his expression is unchanged, a warmer version of suspended animation."
Classic.
Classic.
"What, me worry?"
February 8th, 2013 at 7:50:19 AM
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Ahigh why do you keep bringing up my good buddy The Mad Professor's he has nothing to do with you. I will stop writing about the great fiction he writes when he stops posting outlandish pieces of fiction, that the poor readers that know nothing about the game reads , thinking that it's true.
But just for you in case you never read this one, here is a good one for you that wasn't written by the worlds greatest fiction writer on the game of craps, just for you , so you can see that I'm not just picking on him.
Ahigh I much rather debunk all the fiction that is out there!
This is a post that I put on a different craps board about the fiction writers!
http://roncen.websitetoolbox.com/post/Mad-Professor-4858463?highlight=trackman
So you wanted a favor of everybody to stop posting that wants to question you about what you are doing, that include me and all the other guys that are picking on you in you're mind. Now I ask a favor of you please send me anything that you think is fiction that is written on the net and in the books on the game of craps, so I can debunk them!
But just for you in case you never read this one, here is a good one for you that wasn't written by the worlds greatest fiction writer on the game of craps, just for you , so you can see that I'm not just picking on him.
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Ahigh
So if you want to do me a favor, just stop posting your opinion, scribing or not, I am not asking for it. If you want to go a step further stop following Mad Professor's every word as well. Why not do your own work and publish that?
Ahigh I much rather debunk all the fiction that is out there!
This is a post that I put on a different craps board about the fiction writers!
http://roncen.websitetoolbox.com/post/Mad-Professor-4858463?highlight=trackman
So you wanted a favor of everybody to stop posting that wants to question you about what you are doing, that include me and all the other guys that are picking on you in you're mind. Now I ask a favor of you please send me anything that you think is fiction that is written on the net and in the books on the game of craps, so I can debunk them!
Note, all my post start with this is just my opinion...!
You do good brada ..!
superrick
Winning comes from knowledge and skill when your betting and not reading fiction
http://procraps4u2.myfanforum.org/index.php
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February 8th, 2013 at 8:01:59 AM
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Quote: Ahighanybody could come and demonstrate themselves to be a better shooter than me
Fighting BS one post at a time!
February 8th, 2013 at 8:08:32 AM
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Quote: superrickThis is a post that I put on a different craps board about the fiction writers!
http://roncen.websitetoolbox.com/post/Mad-Professor-4858463?highlight=trackman
Yes, John Patrick's board.
You say "There are a lot of damn good writers on the game of craps, and J P is one of them, you will never see me writing that he is writing fiction."
So then, you believe Patrick's claim that he did 5-6 radio shows a week as a featured gambling guest, and that he regularly puts on gambling seminars that attract hordes of people?
Really?
You don't see that as fiction?
How about the girl he pays to delete his e-mails from his board, claiming he cannot do it himself?
"What, me worry?"
February 8th, 2013 at 8:11:32 AM
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Gee MR V, charting the table and/or dealers has ALWAYS been profitable for me.
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
February 8th, 2013 at 8:20:25 AM
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Quote: Beethoven9thQuote: Ahighanybody could come and demonstrate themselves to be a better shooter than me at my place if they wanted to, and nobody will.
I even offered to pay you money to practice throwing the dice at your place, and you refused.
Why don't you post verbatim what you asked me and what I said. I want to see what you call a refusal and I want to see where you wanted to demonstrate yourself to be a better shooter than me.
Here's what I recall: you did ask to pay to use my home as a practice rig, and I told you that if you want to come by I need to meet you first.
In general, here's what I expect to happen: when we meet I show you how to get a better deal paying a casino for a practice rig (I don't even use my home as a practice rig).
When you demonstrate any good shots, we can come by my house to do some filming.
If you are going to take the attitude that I am some kind of jerk and continue to post like that, why would I ask you to come to my house, though?
aahigh.com
February 8th, 2013 at 8:32:04 AM
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Quote: AhighHere's what I recall: you did ask to pay to use my home as a practice rig, and I told you that if you want to come by I need to meet you first.
Fighting BS one post at a time!
February 8th, 2013 at 9:35:12 AM
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MrV
That claim to fame was never brought to my attention, what was and I asked around about it was that he claimed to play craps every week! Having lived in Fla. and in the Tampa Bay area, I know that there was no craps available that is legal besides the boats, so unless he was traveling over to Johns Pass, to catch one of the gambling boats out of there I wanted to know where he was playing craps. Before I brought it up on his board I asked the guys that I know if they knew anything about what he was claiming and I got the answer that he was playing in a private game.
But I still asked the question on his board and got the same answer from him. Now I know that there are some private games that are played in that area of Tampa Bay, just like there are in Hawaii. The information I got about the private games came from many different sources.
Well MrV all I can tell you is what I do and that is not to post to much over there because just like you a lot of my post never made it to his board, only because I was questioning what one of these fiction writers wrote. If the forum is just one sided and there is only one posters opinion on what they are writing, why would you want to keep going there? Also why would you want to make him money by posting your veiws there, if he is censoring everything you write?
There are some posters that question everything that is written about gambling, I only question what I think is fiction or what I see as something that is going to hurt someone that doesn't know anything about the games we play. Gambling boards needs these type of posters that question everything, even if you don't like to read what they wrote, you need checks and balances. Contrary to what some of these fiction writers wants everybody to believe, I stop posting on one of those fiction boards because of the censorship, you couldn't question them about what they were writing, I was not banned and at the time had a good working relationship with one of the owners, before half of the board was sold.
This is what Ahigh is trying to do with the threads he posts to, and with the post that he makes. He wants it all one sided!
No Ahigh, I'm not picking on you, just telling it like it is!
If you can't debate what is written why would you even want to read it, if you don't like what is written don't read it if it's by a poster that you have a problem with!
If you are posting anything expect others to question what you are writing, they have that right to do so, that is what make a good forum!
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MrV
So then, you believe Patrick's claim that he did 5-6 radio shows a week as a featured gambling guest, and that he regularly puts on gambling seminars that attract hordes of people?
That claim to fame was never brought to my attention, what was and I asked around about it was that he claimed to play craps every week! Having lived in Fla. and in the Tampa Bay area, I know that there was no craps available that is legal besides the boats, so unless he was traveling over to Johns Pass, to catch one of the gambling boats out of there I wanted to know where he was playing craps. Before I brought it up on his board I asked the guys that I know if they knew anything about what he was claiming and I got the answer that he was playing in a private game.
But I still asked the question on his board and got the same answer from him. Now I know that there are some private games that are played in that area of Tampa Bay, just like there are in Hawaii. The information I got about the private games came from many different sources.
Quote:MrV
How about the girl he pays to delete his e-mails from his board, claiming he cannot do it himself?
Well MrV all I can tell you is what I do and that is not to post to much over there because just like you a lot of my post never made it to his board, only because I was questioning what one of these fiction writers wrote. If the forum is just one sided and there is only one posters opinion on what they are writing, why would you want to keep going there? Also why would you want to make him money by posting your veiws there, if he is censoring everything you write?
There are some posters that question everything that is written about gambling, I only question what I think is fiction or what I see as something that is going to hurt someone that doesn't know anything about the games we play. Gambling boards needs these type of posters that question everything, even if you don't like to read what they wrote, you need checks and balances. Contrary to what some of these fiction writers wants everybody to believe, I stop posting on one of those fiction boards because of the censorship, you couldn't question them about what they were writing, I was not banned and at the time had a good working relationship with one of the owners, before half of the board was sold.
This is what Ahigh is trying to do with the threads he posts to, and with the post that he makes. He wants it all one sided!
No Ahigh, I'm not picking on you, just telling it like it is!
If you can't debate what is written why would you even want to read it, if you don't like what is written don't read it if it's by a poster that you have a problem with!
If you are posting anything expect others to question what you are writing, they have that right to do so, that is what make a good forum!
Note, all my post start with this is just my opinion...!
You do good brada ..!
superrick
Winning comes from knowledge and skill when your betting and not reading fiction
http://procraps4u2.myfanforum.org/index.php
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February 8th, 2013 at 12:21:04 PM
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Quote: superrick
No Ahigh, I'm not picking on you, just telling it like it is!
Okay. Thank you kind sir. Good thing you know how it is and I don't otherwise you would only hear a one sided presentation from me.
Keep on sharing with us reality since I live in fantasy land and only write fiction.
You really are Super, Rick.
aahigh.com
February 8th, 2013 at 12:22:53 PM
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" I live in fantasy land and only write fiction. " That's not necessarily a bad thing, is it ?
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
February 8th, 2013 at 12:35:11 PM
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I wish I could do that....as long as I got paid for fiction writings, which would be a fantasyQuote: Buzzard" I live in fantasy land and only write fiction. " That's not necessarily a bad thing, is it ?
Each day is better than the next
February 8th, 2013 at 12:40:15 PM
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You so called DI's are starting to remind me of Homer
Simpson, who celebrates like he won when he gets 2
of the 8 lotto numbers right..
Simpson, who celebrates like he won when he gets 2
of the 8 lotto numbers right..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
February 8th, 2013 at 12:46:33 PM
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EvenBob, you do have to admit the idea of influencing the dice is intoxicating....kind ofQuote: EvenBobYou so called DI's are starting to remind me of Homer
Simpson, who celebrates like he won when he gets 2
of the 8 lotto numbers right..
Each day is better than the next
February 8th, 2013 at 1:13:40 PM
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Quote: superrickI asked around about it was that he claimed to play craps every week! Having lived in Fla. and in the Tampa Bay area, I know that there was no craps available that is legal besides the boats, so unless he was traveling over to Johns Pass, to catch one of the gambling boats out of there I wanted to know where he was playing craps. Before I brought it up on his board I asked the guys that I know if they knew anything about what he was claiming and I got the answer that he was playing in a private game.
Patrick has posted previously that he shoots craps at an illegal or underground casino, whatever the hell that means.
"What, me worry?"
February 8th, 2013 at 1:33:54 PM
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Quote: MrVPatrick has posted previously that he shoots craps at an illegal or underground casino, whatever the hell that means.
Its in his bedroom.. There are no basements in FL.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
February 8th, 2013 at 1:48:44 PM
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And he always charts the sheets before deciding to roll or not !
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
February 8th, 2013 at 1:54:32 PM
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I do want to add to the conversation, fantasy or not, I think it is hilarious that someone who claims that they can influence the dice has no video evidence that it is true and claims that I am making fictitious and one-sided representations of reality. I'm not claiming I can influence the dice, but I am presenting evidence that it may in fact be possible.
I think Rick wishes he had all the stuff I had and just wants to pretend he can shoot the dice better than me.
I'd like to see Rick do a session with 200 rolls that has fewer than 25 sevens in it (IE: RSR of 8 or higher in 200 rolls).
And since the question was raised, yes count the sevens on the comeout! Expect the odds are working the way the WOV would say is the best house edge!
If he's better than me, he should be able to do that no problem.
Until then, I think the one who calls people with the catch phrase "great fiction writer" may be the most guilty of them all.
I also want to bring up that this is the second 200 roll session since the SOOPOO challenge, and I would have won the challenge 2 out of 3 sessions.
There is no fiction to any of this, and the data and video is available. Yet Rick claims to be the one firmly grounded in reality calling himself a DI and claiming that nobody else is?
I am left scratching my head on this one. But I have no evidence at all that Rick is anything but a wanna-be. Just because I never seem him shoot well at all.
Using set 4242
44`43`64`44`54`53`42`64`64`12`51`43`66`65`32`66`11`53`41`43`63`44`41`61`12`13`43`62`63`64
12`43`41`54`66`31`51`51`61`51`51`52`65`54`43`11`41`52`61`64`41`43`51`51`63`66`53`64`64`41
51`62`51`42`41`42`12`63`51`54`12`55`63`41`12`54`62`42`61`65`52`61`31`51`54`65`23`54`63`23
11`41`44`42`42`12`52`55`44`62`43`23`62`54`31`33`33`42`65`41`53`62`64`33`54`51`55`62`61`43
43`63`62`52`55`62`51`66`65`64`63`65`55`53`43`23`22`42`53`31`51`63`41`53`64`43`54`54`12`12
64`31`31`32`54`63`31`42`54`54`11`55`12`63`13`65`52`53`42`23`42`62`12`31`63`63`51`65`41`64
62`63`66`23`63`11`44`33`63`23`31`31`55`64`12`44`42`43`53`53
four sevens in the last 72 rolls. That's a RSR of 18!
I have in fact rolled over 60 rolls with no sevens in it at all, I'm sure I will get that on video in a future session.
Then what shall Super Rick say? Fiction? What if I do 150 rolls with no seven? Bullshit?
Maybe the truth is just that Super Rick has a hard time believing reality and can only assume that it is fantasy land.
Some people called my video with 9 hardways in ten throws bullshit, but I assure you that happened too.
I have unaltered video in the format created by the video camera available as evidence to anyone who thinks it was faked, I'm pretty sure it can be verified authentic by someone, even if it take a Sony camera engineer, it's pretty firm evidence, and absolutely not a fantasy.
I think Rick wishes he had all the stuff I had and just wants to pretend he can shoot the dice better than me.
I'd like to see Rick do a session with 200 rolls that has fewer than 25 sevens in it (IE: RSR of 8 or higher in 200 rolls).
And since the question was raised, yes count the sevens on the comeout! Expect the odds are working the way the WOV would say is the best house edge!
If he's better than me, he should be able to do that no problem.
Until then, I think the one who calls people with the catch phrase "great fiction writer" may be the most guilty of them all.
I also want to bring up that this is the second 200 roll session since the SOOPOO challenge, and I would have won the challenge 2 out of 3 sessions.
There is no fiction to any of this, and the data and video is available. Yet Rick claims to be the one firmly grounded in reality calling himself a DI and claiming that nobody else is?
I am left scratching my head on this one. But I have no evidence at all that Rick is anything but a wanna-be. Just because I never seem him shoot well at all.
Using set 4242
44`43`64`44`54`53`42`64`64`12`51`43`66`65`32`66`11`53`41`43`63`44`41`61`12`13`43`62`63`64
12`43`41`54`66`31`51`51`61`51`51`52`65`54`43`11`41`52`61`64`41`43`51`51`63`66`53`64`64`41
51`62`51`42`41`42`12`63`51`54`12`55`63`41`12`54`62`42`61`65`52`61`31`51`54`65`23`54`63`23
11`41`44`42`42`12`52`55`44`62`43`23`62`54`31`33`33`42`65`41`53`62`64`33`54`51`55`62`61`43
43`63`62`52`55`62`51`66`65`64`63`65`55`53`43`23`22`42`53`31`51`63`41`53`64`43`54`54`12`12
64`31`31`32`54`63`31`42`54`54`11`55`12`63`13`65`52`53`42`23`42`62`12`31`63`63`51`65`41`64
62`63`66`23`63`11`44`33`63`23`31`31`55`64`12`44`42`43`53`53
four sevens in the last 72 rolls. That's a RSR of 18!
I have in fact rolled over 60 rolls with no sevens in it at all, I'm sure I will get that on video in a future session.
Then what shall Super Rick say? Fiction? What if I do 150 rolls with no seven? Bullshit?
Maybe the truth is just that Super Rick has a hard time believing reality and can only assume that it is fantasy land.
Some people called my video with 9 hardways in ten throws bullshit, but I assure you that happened too.
I have unaltered video in the format created by the video camera available as evidence to anyone who thinks it was faked, I'm pretty sure it can be verified authentic by someone, even if it take a Sony camera engineer, it's pretty firm evidence, and absolutely not a fantasy.
aahigh.com
February 8th, 2013 at 2:37:54 PM
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Quote: AhighI do want to add to the conversation, fantasy or not, I think it is hilarious
Whats hilarious is I first heard of DI in the 80's
and everybody said it was BS even then. An
urban legend. God knows how long its been
around.
Whats hilarious is there are still people who think
a roulette dealer can sector shoot accurately on
every spin. Its never been demonstrated, shown,
or proven. I have a link to a gambling book that
was written over 100 years ago and it has a whole
chapter on the myth of sector shooting. Yet people
will fight you to the death because they think its
true.
Its all bullshit. You can't control random dice or
random roulette balls.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
February 8th, 2013 at 2:41:58 PM
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I learned Chi-squared yesterday. I'll be adding Chi-squared analysis to my software, and yes it's very easy stuff. Thanks to those who prodded me.
Getting interactive feedback from Chi-squared as you are rolling should be very useful.
I also added random dice generation with weighted biases for each face and don't side strategies.
I know Koga Ninja has proved in his mind that you can't profit on the don'ts from heavy 6-1, but I believe my sim is going to come to another answer.
I will be able to say exactly what threshold of heavy 6-1 outcomes will allow a shooter to profit on the don't and how to best exploit it.
If it is in fact real, it's trivial to profit from imbalanced dice.
If you want to talk about fiction, go check out those Koga videos!! Buds of Harley Horn and Super Rick!!!
Getting interactive feedback from Chi-squared as you are rolling should be very useful.
I also added random dice generation with weighted biases for each face and don't side strategies.
I know Koga Ninja has proved in his mind that you can't profit on the don'ts from heavy 6-1, but I believe my sim is going to come to another answer.
I will be able to say exactly what threshold of heavy 6-1 outcomes will allow a shooter to profit on the don't and how to best exploit it.
If it is in fact real, it's trivial to profit from imbalanced dice.
If you want to talk about fiction, go check out those Koga videos!! Buds of Harley Horn and Super Rick!!!
aahigh.com
February 8th, 2013 at 3:03:05 PM
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Quote: Ahigh
I have in fact rolled over 60 rolls with no sevens in it at all, I'm sure I will get that on video in a future session.
Ahigh, you are about to strike gold. Get one of these sessions done, even at your home game, and put the unedited video on YouTube. You will be limited, at first, to a 10 minute or 15 minute video, so you might have to put the video online in segments and I think two breaks in the action will be acceptable. You should be able to do 60 rolls in thirty minutes, or three 10-minute videos.
Later, when YouTube determines you are putting original material online and not someone else's material, there will be no time limits. (I am already exempt from time limits so I can put my comlete shows and Infomercials online.) So later you will be able to post the entire 60-roill session with no breaks and no edits for the world to see.
Once you have this video online for everyone to see -- the fighting will be over.
February 8th, 2013 at 3:50:47 PM
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Quote: AlanMendelsonOnce you have this video online for everyone to see -- the fighting will be over.
No it won't.
Fujitake and DeMauro far exceeded that, and they were random rollers.
Luck happens.
"What, me worry?"
February 8th, 2013 at 3:59:23 PM
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Quote: MrVNo it won't.
Fujitake and DeMauro far exceeded that, and they were random rollers.
Luck happens.
Its not even luck, its just the nature of random
outcomes. You need a huge number of rolls
before you can make any real diagnosis. Over
100,000 anyway.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
February 8th, 2013 at 4:00:36 PM
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Quote: MrVNo it won't.
Fujitake and DeMauro far exceeded that, and they were random rollers.
Luck happens.
Did they, or did they just not 7-out?
One 60-roll set having no 7's is : 1 in 56,350
This calculated as one specific block having no 7's, not a rolling block of 60 where you try and find a set with no 7. E.g. You start by saying "I will roll no 7's" roll sixty times and have 0 7's at the end.
Having a moving window, and observing hundreds of blocks of 60, and the chance comes way down.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
February 8th, 2013 at 4:08:20 PM
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I have over 600,123 rolls without a 7.
That may change, when I add another die to the single one I now roll.
That may change, when I add another die to the single one I now roll.
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
February 8th, 2013 at 4:09:28 PM
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
February 8th, 2013 at 4:17:06 PM
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Quote: IbeatyouracesI'll be convinced, either way, after 200 billion trials.
At last: the "long run" defined.
"What, me worry?"
February 8th, 2013 at 4:24:54 PM
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
February 8th, 2013 at 4:40:54 PM
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Human nature says someone has a great day when they are on the extremes of what we expect, even that's not really that unlikely. Look at perfect game, or a guy who comes from nowhere to sink a dozen three pointers, or scores 3 TDs on his second game. Sometimes it's just extremes of the standard deviation, sometimes the player is freakishly talented.
We tend to attribute more skill to events which have a lot more luck than we consider. Dice chucking appears to be all luck. Extra-ordinary claims will need extra-ordinary evidence.
We tend to attribute more skill to events which have a lot more luck than we consider. Dice chucking appears to be all luck. Extra-ordinary claims will need extra-ordinary evidence.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
February 8th, 2013 at 4:53:46 PM
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" Dice chucking appears to be all luck." Pure unadulterated heresy.
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
February 8th, 2013 at 4:59:15 PM
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Ahigh
You have a problem and it's not just me.
I never said you were a fiction writer; I like your software from what I can see of it. You want prove something, but you don’t want anybody to interject anything about what you are doing. Nobody can question anything about it. You say you want to prove that there are a few shooters that can control the dice or what ever you want to call what you do when you are shooting. So be it, but if you’re not doing it under the same condition that you would have in a casino; then you are not proving anything.
If there are no chips in your way when you are shooting you didn't prove a thing. When you do your in house test if you don't have other players making bets or chips on the table when your DI is shooting, just what did you prove? If you didn't even come close to real casino conditions.
Get off your kick about me; I have plenty of guys that everybody calls DI's that have seen me shooting in real casino around town. I don't claim to win every time I hit a casino, nor do I claim to have fantastic rolls ever time I shoot.
Ahigh I don't want anything you have, I don't need it and unlike you I'm not going to show anybody what I have, except when I do post videos of other things to do around Vegas beside the casinos, that most player never get out of when they come to Vegas. You will never see my face on any of those videos. You will see that I drive a Corvette and that I'm very active in the corvette clubs around vegas. There are way to many guys that come to Vegas and never get out of the casino they check into, some of them may never see the outside of the casino that they are staying in. I try to get the guys that are DI's or anybody that I've met over the years to do other things when they come to Vegas. They are on the board that I help run, I try not to even put links up to that board!
Since you insist about making this about you and I. I will again tell you that your data is useless, because it’s done at home and not in a real casino.
Your buddy VDC is one of the only guys on this board that has already posted about my shooting, While you have only seen me at a table one time, but you are making it like you see me shooting every day, sorry buddy that doesn’t fly!!!!!!!!!!!
Ahigh remember this thread is not about you and I, it’s about what you do at your home with the cameras running so you can show the world what you think you are doing! With what you are calling a bias shot.
You can still call me any time and go to a real casino without cameras running and have someone like VDC that we both know watch how we are shooting and put a stop to this BS about you and I. I already made you that offer once before! If that happened it would make it the second time you will ever see me shooting in a casino!!!!!!!!!!!
As I said before I will be in a casino on Monday night and I will even buy your dinner!!!!!!!!!!
Just in case you threw my phone number VDC has it.
You have a problem and it's not just me.
I never said you were a fiction writer; I like your software from what I can see of it. You want prove something, but you don’t want anybody to interject anything about what you are doing. Nobody can question anything about it. You say you want to prove that there are a few shooters that can control the dice or what ever you want to call what you do when you are shooting. So be it, but if you’re not doing it under the same condition that you would have in a casino; then you are not proving anything.
If there are no chips in your way when you are shooting you didn't prove a thing. When you do your in house test if you don't have other players making bets or chips on the table when your DI is shooting, just what did you prove? If you didn't even come close to real casino conditions.
Get off your kick about me; I have plenty of guys that everybody calls DI's that have seen me shooting in real casino around town. I don't claim to win every time I hit a casino, nor do I claim to have fantastic rolls ever time I shoot.
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I think Rick wishes he had all the stuff I had and just wants to pretend he can shoot the dice better than me.
I'd like to see Rick do a session with 200 rolls that has fewer than 25 sevens in it (IE: RSR of 8 or higher in 200 rolls).
Ahigh I don't want anything you have, I don't need it and unlike you I'm not going to show anybody what I have, except when I do post videos of other things to do around Vegas beside the casinos, that most player never get out of when they come to Vegas. You will never see my face on any of those videos. You will see that I drive a Corvette and that I'm very active in the corvette clubs around vegas. There are way to many guys that come to Vegas and never get out of the casino they check into, some of them may never see the outside of the casino that they are staying in. I try to get the guys that are DI's or anybody that I've met over the years to do other things when they come to Vegas. They are on the board that I help run, I try not to even put links up to that board!
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There is no fiction to any of this, and the data and video is available. Yet Rick claims to be the one firmly grounded in reality calling himself a DI and claiming that nobody else is?
Since you insist about making this about you and I. I will again tell you that your data is useless, because it’s done at home and not in a real casino.
Your buddy VDC is one of the only guys on this board that has already posted about my shooting, While you have only seen me at a table one time, but you are making it like you see me shooting every day, sorry buddy that doesn’t fly!!!!!!!!!!!
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VDC
With that said, I have played with SR before many times. As he said all shooters have good and bad days. I remember being on a table first time we hooked up to shoot together and he fired out a mid 40 and a few mid 30 hands. I've played with AH before where he outshot me in a mid 20 hand roll. So take it for what's it worth they both have performed above average when I played with them. If play with SR when invited as well as AH when invited.
Ahigh remember this thread is not about you and I, it’s about what you do at your home with the cameras running so you can show the world what you think you are doing! With what you are calling a bias shot.
You can still call me any time and go to a real casino without cameras running and have someone like VDC that we both know watch how we are shooting and put a stop to this BS about you and I. I already made you that offer once before! If that happened it would make it the second time you will ever see me shooting in a casino!!!!!!!!!!!
As I said before I will be in a casino on Monday night and I will even buy your dinner!!!!!!!!!!
Just in case you threw my phone number VDC has it.
Note, all my post start with this is just my opinion...!
You do good brada ..!
superrick
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February 8th, 2013 at 5:12:21 PM
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Quote: superrickI will again tell you that your data is useless, because it’s done at home and not in a real casino.
You really can't ay this often enough. What you do at
home is not what you'll do in a casino, under stress,
betting real money. You can automatically deduct
20% off whatever skill you think you have. And off
a skill you can't even attain, so you're really up the
old excrement creek here..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
February 8th, 2013 at 6:00:32 PM
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Why practice card counting or random reading or craps chucking?
Because while practice is not the real thing, it can help prepare you for the real thing. Like ball drills and putting practice. If someone can perform and do X under control conditions, I might believe they can do X under 'match' conditions. If they can't do it with everything going for them, you'd have to ask whats so magical about the casino and it's chaos that suddenly allows you to perform at the top level.
Because while practice is not the real thing, it can help prepare you for the real thing. Like ball drills and putting practice. If someone can perform and do X under control conditions, I might believe they can do X under 'match' conditions. If they can't do it with everything going for them, you'd have to ask whats so magical about the casino and it's chaos that suddenly allows you to perform at the top level.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
February 8th, 2013 at 7:18:14 PM
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Quote: EvenBobWhat you do at home is not what you'll do in a casino
Perhaps, but it certainly could help.
Maybe it's sort of like when we were teens: flogging the old flounder prepared us for love, sex, and marriage.
"What, me worry?"
February 8th, 2013 at 7:22:41 PM
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COMP BRAG TIME!!
This is wayyyyyyy better than a plate of nachos at the TGI Friday's!
The "King of Swing's" son! Live! Comped! Royalty!!!
YOUR MOVE, Ahigh!
This is wayyyyyyy better than a plate of nachos at the TGI Friday's!
The "King of Swing's" son! Live! Comped! Royalty!!!
YOUR MOVE, Ahigh!
February 8th, 2013 at 7:25:06 PM
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Quote: MrVPerhaps, but it certainly could help.
Maybe it's sort of like when we were teens: flogging the old flounder prepared us for love, sex, and marriage.
Ah, it seems MrV has a long affair with Mrs. Thumb and her 4 lovely daughters.
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
February 8th, 2013 at 8:04:23 PM
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LOL
As have we all ...
As have we all ...
"What, me worry?"
February 8th, 2013 at 8:56:09 PM
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Buzzard and MrV
You guys made my night, you are way to funny. Tell it like it is!
You guys made my night, you are way to funny. Tell it like it is!
Note, all my post start with this is just my opinion...!
You do good brada ..!
superrick
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February 8th, 2013 at 9:30:46 PM
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Quote: superrickYou have a problem and it's not just me.
You want prove something, but you don’t want anybody to interject anything about what you are doing.
That is a false statement. I have overtly solicited feedback. It is your obviously false and overtly negative statements about me and other people that I have issue with. Not just the feedback. Alan just said something that I liked very much. That was something that was interjected, and therefore what you wrote was completely wrong. The truth is that I just don't like the false statements that you make that are just your own personal blanket party that gives you so much delight!
Quote: superrick
Nobody can question anything about it.
Here is an obviously false statement. Maybe you could say it's just a wording problem, but still very false.
Quote: superrick
You say you want to prove that there are a few shooters that can control the dice or what ever you want to call what you do when you are shooting. So be it, but if you’re not doing it under the same condition that you would have in a casino; then you are not proving anything.
If there are no chips in your way when you are shooting you didn't prove a thing. When you do your in house test if you don't have other players making bets or chips on the table when your DI is shooting, just what did you prove? If you didn't even come close to real casino conditions.
Since you insist about making this about you and I.
I am proving something, and again you are simply wrong. I play at the casino at the Silverton that has very nearly the exact same table and conditions as my table. There are no chips in my way or anything. The last roll I made today, I made several hundred dollars on that roll hitting a hard 8. There were no chips in my way. So you're wrong, there, SUPER Rick, sir. Sorry about that.
Quote: superrickI will again tell you that your data is useless, because it’s done at home and not in a real casino.
That is an obviously false blanket statement. Who is the fiction writer making such obviously false statements?
The data is not useless! Many of your comments are, however. If you were more concerned with making truthful statements instead of accusing everyone else of being a "so-called DI" and a "great fiction writer" you would be doing yourself quite a great service.
I'm not calling you, and I don't want to play with you. Why would I? When you hold such an unfavorable perspective on me and what I am doing, ask yourself this: why would Ahigh want to be around SuperRick?
I don't like you and I don't like how you address me and I don't like the things that you say. And not because it is counter to what I am doing. It's because you are often wrong and you are so stubborn, it's nearly impossible to reason with you.
aahigh.com
February 8th, 2013 at 9:41:09 PM
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Quote: sodawaterCOMP BRAG TIME!!
This is wayyyyyyy better than a plate of nachos at the TGI Friday's!
The "King of Swing's" son! Live! Comped! Royalty!!!
YOUR MOVE, Ahigh!
Dude it wasn't Nachos! It was Shrimp Cocktail, BBQ Chicken Flatbread (like CPK pizza), and Mozzarella Cheese Sticks with Marinara and a Coke(tm).
I think I may have a private boat trip for me and 18 guests this summer. It's not verified yet, but I had to cancel it last year and my host that I talked to today told me he would get that set up for me this summer since I had to cancel it last summer. It's the largest private boat on Lake Mead.
I must admit, though, that it is not in the bag yet.
I cancelled it last summer to go to the Atari reunion party and hang out with all my buddies I worked with at Atari Games coin-op in the Bay Area.
aahigh.com
February 8th, 2013 at 10:03:30 PM
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I'd like to say something about "chips in the way" since this seems to have become a big issue. All DIs (or those who claim to be DIs) acknowledge that there is a problem with other player's chips on the table which is why all of the DIs preach that it is best to play in early morning hours when tables are empty or not even in use.
I know some high rollers who believe they can influence the dice who ask the pit boss to close one side of the table so that they can throw towards an empty table.
Pit bosses have even asked me when I walk up to a $10 table and I'm betting green chips if I would like the table minimum raised to $25. I answer this way: "yes, please raise the other side to $25, and leave my side at $10." And that's because I want all the chips on my side where my dice can't hit them.
Frankly, I think saying that chips must be on the table as a measure of "success" is not an issue. Any in the DI camp would not play on a crowded table where there are chips all over the place and especially in their "landing zone."
So I would vote to leave Ahigh alone on this point.
And I still think that if A high can go 60 rolls without a 7 I would be impressed. Maybe you math guys wouldn't because it's a small sample, but in the real world of casino craps, I see lots of sevens in small samples. So eliminate the 7s from small samples and I'm impressed.
I know some high rollers who believe they can influence the dice who ask the pit boss to close one side of the table so that they can throw towards an empty table.
Pit bosses have even asked me when I walk up to a $10 table and I'm betting green chips if I would like the table minimum raised to $25. I answer this way: "yes, please raise the other side to $25, and leave my side at $10." And that's because I want all the chips on my side where my dice can't hit them.
Frankly, I think saying that chips must be on the table as a measure of "success" is not an issue. Any in the DI camp would not play on a crowded table where there are chips all over the place and especially in their "landing zone."
So I would vote to leave Ahigh alone on this point.
And I still think that if A high can go 60 rolls without a 7 I would be impressed. Maybe you math guys wouldn't because it's a small sample, but in the real world of casino craps, I see lots of sevens in small samples. So eliminate the 7s from small samples and I'm impressed.
February 8th, 2013 at 10:11:31 PM
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Quote: AlanMendelson
And I still think that if A high can go 60 rolls without a 7 I would be impressed. .
Geez, Alan. This kind of crap happens all the time
in random outcomes, but nobody can do it on
purpose. Nobody can spin nothing but red numbers
in roulette. Craps and roulette have this in common:
The BOUNCE. Nobody can control the bounce, thats
rather the point.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
February 8th, 2013 at 10:15:08 PM
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Quote: AhighI also want to bring up that this is the second 200 roll session since the SOOPOO challenge, and I would have won the challenge 2 out of 3 sessions.
Using set 4242
44`43`64`44`54`53`42`64`64`12`51`43`66`65`32`66`11`53`41`43`63`44`41`61`12`13`43`62`63`64
12`43`41`54`66`31`51`51`61`51`51`52`65`54`43`11`41`52`61`64`41`43`51`51`63`66`53`64`64`41
51`62`51`42`41`42`12`63`51`54`12`55`63`41`12`54`62`42`61`65`52`61`31`51`54`65`23`54`63`23
11`41`44`42`42`12`52`55`44`62`43`23`62`54`31`33`33`42`65`41`53`62`64`33`54`51`55`62`61`43
43`63`62`52`55`62`51`66`65`64`63`65`55`53`43`23`22`42`53`31`51`63`41`53`64`43`54`54`12`12
64`31`31`32`54`63`31`42`54`54`11`55`12`63`13`65`52`53`42`23`42`62`12`31`63`63`51`65`41`64
62`63`66`23`63`11`44`33`63`23`31`31`55`64`12`44`42`43`53`53
four sevens in the last 72 rolls. That's a RSR of 18!
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Note: in that 200 roll set, you were just ordinary for the first 128 rolls, throwing 21 7s. The odds of throwing 4 or less 7s in 72 rolls is .00446, or 0.5%. Nothing special.
So geez, now you claim you're a dice influencer. Sample sizes... sample sizes... sample sizes. 9 hardways in 10, 60 rolls in a row without a 7.
ARE you, or aren't you?
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You want the truth! You can't handle the truth!
February 8th, 2013 at 10:34:31 PM
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Quote: EvenBobGeez, Alan. This kind of crap happens all the time
in random outcomes, but nobody can do it on
purpose. Nobody can spin nothing but red numbers
in roulette. Craps and roulette have this in common:
The BOUNCE. Nobody can control the bounce, thats
rather the point.
I don't know where you play, but I rarely see 60 rolls "all the time." I would love to be at a craps table for sixty rolls. If I get 15 I go wild with joy!
A 60 roll hand would last at least 20 minutes. Honestly, do 20 minute hands happen all the time? I'm figuring a roll every 20 seconds.
And the issue is not "controlling" anything, including the bounce. Only Scoblete uses the word "control." Everyone else that I know of talks about "influence." And what is influence? Well, it involves a smooth roll that keeps the dice on axis and gently touching the back wall to minimize rotations. That is what Sharpshooter describes in his book and what all of the DIs I know strive for.
Now, like you I don't think Ahigh has it. I don't think he's even close. I cannot consider him a dice influencer. But I also said this before: if he somehow with his unorthodox throw manages to get the numbers he wants then I would say he has a new form of dice influencing.
So, if Ahigh can get 60 rolls in a row on tape without editing, I will be very very impressed. He says he can do it. Ok, let's see Ahigh do it.
February 8th, 2013 at 11:07:10 PM
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Here is the length of his handsQuote: boymimboNote: in that 200 roll set, you were just ordinary for the first 128 rolls, throwing 21 7s. The odds of throwing 4 or less 7s in 72 rolls is .00446, or 0.5%. Nothing special.
# rolls
1 2
2 10
3 12
4 3
5 5
6 7
7 6
8 3
9 4
10 45...3 point winners
11 4
12 18
13 5
14 11
15 11
16 21...2 point winners
17 31...2 pint winners
18 2 still in progress
52 rolls - 5.7 rolls per hand and a SRR of 4.33 (3.6 not counting the come out rolls - 9 7s in 32 point rolls)
A few winners but not many.
With real bets being made, there is a very good chance the shooter is DONE. Not looking good. Only 3 point winners.
With a buy-in of $200 and just $5 pass line bets, after the 9th hand, there is $180 left. So a good chance to see the 45 roll hand.
Taking 2X odds... $137 left after the 9th hand. Still going?? I think so
But Taking 345X odds... only $95 left after the 9th hand. Still going??
Again, Maybe on a real table with real bets, some place bets and some hardway bets... he is DONE after his 9th hand.
What a bad time to leave.
here are the hands (cor = come out roll)
hand# 1
cor 8h 7 out
hand# 1 2 rolls
hand# 2
cor 10 8h 9 8 6 10 win
cor 10 3 6 7 out
hand# 2 10 rolls
hand# 3
cor 12 crap out
cor 11 win
cor 5 12 2 8 5 win
cor 7 win
cor 9 8h 5 7 out
hand# 3 12 rolls
hand# 4
cor 3 crap out
cor 4 7 out
hand# 4 3 rolls
hand# 5
cor 8 9 10 3 7 out
hand# 5 5 rolls
hand# 6
cor 5 9 12 4 6 6 7 out
hand# 6 7 rolls
hand# 7
cor 6 6 win
cor 7 win
cor 11 win
cor 9 7 out
hand# 7 6 rolls
hand# 8
cor 2 crap out
cor 5 7 out
hand# 8 3 rolls
hand# 9
cor 7 win
cor 10 5 7 out
hand# 9 4 rolls
hand# 10
cor 6 6 win
cor 9 12 8 10 10 5 6 8 6
6 5 6 3 9 win
cor 6 9 3 10h 9 5 3 9 8
6 win
cor 7 win
cor 11 win
cor 7 win
cor 7 win
cor 4 6 9 11 5 9 9 5 2
5 8h 6 6 3 7 out
hand# 10 45 rolls
hand# 11
cor 10h 8h 8 7 out
hand# 11 4 rolls
hand# 12
cor 5 8 9 4 6h 6h 6 11 5 win
cor 8 8 win
cor 10 6h 9 6 10h win
cor 8 7 out
hand# 12 18 rolls
hand# 13
cor 7 win
cor 7 win
cor 9 8 7 out
hand# 13 5 rolls
hand# 14
cor 10h 8 6 12 11 10 win
cor 9 11 10h 8 7 out
hand# 14 11 rolls
hand# 15
cor 5 4h 6 8 4 6 9 5 win
cor 8 10 7 out
hand# 15 11 rolls
hand# 16
cor 9 9 win
cor 3 crap out
cor 3 crap out
cor 10 4 4 5 9 9 4 6 9 9 2 10h win
cor 3 crap out
cor 9 4 11 7 out
hand# 16 21 rolls
hand# 17
cor 8 6 5 6 8 win
cor 3 crap out
cor 4 9 9 6 11 5 10 8 9 12 5 9 2
8h 6h 9 5 4 win
cor 4 10h 10 3 8h 6 7 out
hand# 17 31 rolls
hand# 18
cor 8 8 win
cor
where are the actual casino dice rolls??
The actual bets made would be nice too.
That is the bottom line.
just a pencil and paper is all that is needed.
They can be entered into the computer later
winsome johnny (not Win some johnny)
February 8th, 2013 at 11:21:09 PM
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Quote: AlanMendelsonI don't know where you play, but I rarely see 60 rolls "all the time." .
Neither does Ahigh. Nobody does..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
February 9th, 2013 at 8:27:20 AM
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Alan
And I still think that if A high can go 60 rolls without a 7 I would be impressed. Maybe you math guys wouldn't because it's a small sample, but in the real world of casino craps, I see lots of sevens in small samples. So eliminate the 7s from small samples and I'm impressed.
Well Alan wouldn't we all be impressed, we would all love to see it happen and be on the table when it did happen, that's if it happens in a casino, otherwise it's just a wasted roll, that happened on a practice table and nobody made any money on. While the shooter might have had fun doing it, who cares! While Ahigh has all the camera equipment to record his rolls how does anybody know that he's not just cherry picking the rolls he post. Again Ahigh I'm not saying that you would do that, but there is always that possibility in everybody's mind, that does not believe in anything about dice controllers or what ever you want to call them, since we now have a new terminology. “Bias Shooter”
Ahigh I do give you all the credit in the world, when you have the watch on the table, so everybody can see that you didn't do an edit!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Alan
I'd like to say something about "chips in the way" since this seems to have become a big issue. All DIs (or those who claim to be DIs) acknowledge that there is a problem with other player's chips on the table which is why all of the DIs preach that it is best to play in early morning hours when tables are empty or not even in use.
Look Alan I'll be the first one to tell everybody on this board that you won't find me to many times on a table if it's after 7 am in the morning and that I only play craps late at night and early in the mornings.
The reason why chips should be on the table and other making bets like in a real casino, is even when I play at those hours, there are still other players that show up at those times.
We are lucky in Vegas, where we can find tables that have only a few players on the tables at certain times of the day, but that doesn't always happen. So if your a DI that has to drive to a casino and you have to play with what ever you find when you get there, you have to be able to shoot around the chips and deal with the other players on the table.
I know a lot of guys that are DI's and if they find conditions that are not at 100% , they have two choices to make, play or go home. Most stay and play, I don't know of any of these guys that turn around and drive back home. The same things go for the guys that come into Vegas without checking what's happening here when they book their trip. We could have our biggest convention in town and they can't find any empty tables!
This morning I had two + 30 rolls that were both stopped by other players, the first casino had no one on the table at 4 am, but that didn't last long. On the first table I had a 4 point fire bet, no big deal.
The roll was stopped by one player making a stupid prop bet for the wrong amount, that the dealers didn't know what the player was doing. The dice sat in the middle of the table while they tried to figure out what just happened!
Next casino, one player at 5 am when I bought in, it stayed that way for a while then one other player came to the table and started to scream every time I hit a point. Then 3 other players came to the table, again I was on a 30 + roll when one of the players stopped the roll by putting a $25 hardway bet up for the dealers and there was some confusion about what he did, because it happened as they were doing a pay out. Both times I called all my bets off and guess what happened both time; 7 out line away! In both cases I left the casinos after those rolls. In my mind all I could see, was it going down hill after that.
That's why you need to make your test under playing conditions, most times you can get by when something is happening on the table that stops a roll, but over the years I've found that you better off calling your bets off for one roll, then refocus as everything gets going again.
Note, all my post start with this is just my opinion...!
You do good brada ..!
superrick
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