Yoyomama
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April 23rd, 2011 at 1:10:58 PM permalink
Craps is my favorite Casino game. It has some of the best and the worst bets in the casino. I like to play the best and watch others play the worst and win. All around entertainment!

BUT, I seem to see the same old (older) faces each time I visit my casinos. No new blood. Do you agree? What is needed to get more and younger players?

It's got to be the toughest game to learn. I watched for 3 months and read 3 books on craps before I rolled the dice for the first time.
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April 23rd, 2011 at 1:59:55 PM permalink
Quote: Yoyomama

Craps is my favorite Casino game. It has some of the best and the worst bets in the casino. I like to play the best and watch others play the worst and win. All around entertainment!

BUT, I seem to see the same old (older) faces each time I visit my casinos. No new blood. Do you agree? What is needed to get more and younger players?

It's got to be the toughest game to learn. I watched for 3 months and read 3 books on craps before I rolled the dice for the first time.



I wouldn't say it is dying yet. At the casino here there is a pit with nothing but craps, six or so tables. They seem to almost always have at least half open even on off hours.

Agree it is hard to learn. When I teach people I liken the language to having to olearn to be a floor trader at the NYSE. Hard to learn but once you do you realize it actually makes it easier and faster.
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April 23rd, 2011 at 2:34:41 PM permalink
I saw lots of people playing craps last trip, even at the Fremont which offers only 2x.

But let's wait for Paco to rule on this. He's a gaming authority I trust, even when I can't quite follow him.
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April 23rd, 2011 at 2:45:11 PM permalink
I may complain from time to time that casinos seem to be geriatric wards these days but it is not really true. We do see retirement home types and electric scooters but there are also the younger set who seem to have other interests while the geritol set sit glued to a slot machine or something.

I've seen UCLA frat rats descend on the Venetian's craps tables and of course places like the Palms and the Hard Rock probably are youth magnets.

I'll admit that the "new blood" does seem to be somewhat lacking but perhaps its just not being noticed.

On a Florida Day-Boat, they closed the craps table after they got hit by a team several years ago. Then they reopened it for weekend voyages only and for about a year its been Thursday nights thru Sunday nights. Its a variable crowd but does generally get an older crowd.

The nearby Seminole casinos get a young, hip crowd as far as the Hard Rock goes and also the smaller Seminole casinos gets younger Asians at the MiniBacc tables and sometime BJ tables. No craps at any of the Seminole casinos.
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April 23rd, 2011 at 4:17:32 PM permalink
Whenever I'm at the Sands in PA, I can't get near the craps tables. And they are $15 minimums!
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April 23rd, 2011 at 4:20:12 PM permalink
I love craps but think it can be real intimidating for new players. I've tried to teach many people how to play but it almost has to be an empty table for some to feel comfortable. The game moves fast and the last thing a newbie wants to do is slow down a hot table.
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April 23rd, 2011 at 4:49:51 PM permalink
In Nevada craps is down by about the same amount as roulette, sports betting, 3 card poker, and most of the minor table games.

The outliers are the blackjack and horse racing are way down, and baccarat is up to above it's pre-recession levels.

I think of craps as doing about average, whereas blackjack seems mortally wounded (but still the second most popular table game in Nevada). It's just that it was first for literally decades.
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April 23rd, 2011 at 6:33:30 PM permalink
As one of the younger craps players I think it might just come down to what's "cool". When you're pre-21 all you really hear about is blackjack, poker, and roulette. BJ and roulette are easy to learn and EVERYONE knows how to play poker... but how many people when they hit 21 could walk up to a craps table? Not many. Most of the "addicted" youth are playing poker or trying to AP BJ because that's what your friends are into - when I talk with a lot of my friends and it comes to gambling I always get a weird look when I say I only play craps. It's "that dice game" to the mass majority of the public.

Entirely a personal opinion: I think craps is one of the more veteran and gambling-hardened games in the casino. As we all know craps has a huge variance, so unlike blackjack or roulette you can't just walk up to a craps table with a hundred and have a good night. 4/5 times you'll bust out like there's no tomorrow, it isn't until they have that hot streak that they A. learn how to really play and B. start to bring a bigger bankroll.
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April 23rd, 2011 at 6:37:37 PM permalink
Quote: JimMorrison

I love craps but think it can be real intimidating for new players.



The first time I saw a craps table, I kept looking around for a user's manual :P

The best way to learn is simply to find an online site with instructions, then download a simulator like Wincraps or find an online free game and just play. It's a lot better than live lessons at casinos.

BTW last trip at Bill's they gave out free $5 match play coupons after the lesson. It's worth standing at one for that, it's only 20 minutes or so.
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April 23rd, 2011 at 11:23:00 PM permalink
I shot craps last night at Chinook Winds Casino, a nice tribal casino on the Oregon coast.

The table was a fairly even mix of seasoned, aka older craps players and hordes of 20-somethings.

Lots of new, young players, at least on a weekend night, and their energy and emotion was neat to behold.

Kind of like how I felt when I was new to the game.

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