ChumpChange
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November 7th, 2021 at 9:21:49 AM permalink
I like my 3X odds strategy on the Don't Pass, but the Bubble Craps machine only allows me to bet 2X Odds. So I was thinking of adding an amount equal to the Don't Pass bet to the Place To Lose on the same number, that way I'll have a facsimile of 3X odds.
I haven't tried this bet yet and I'm not sure of what the Bubble Crap pay table on this bet is, or whether you can Buy the Place To Lose bet and get a better return.
According to the Wizard's site,
the 6 & 8 P2L bet would pay 80%,
the 5 & 9 P2L would pay 62.5%
the 4 & 10 P2L would pay 45.45%

So if I had $20 on the DP, $40 on Odds, and $20 on the P2L, the total win would be:
the 6 & 8: $20 + $33.33 + $16 + $80 bet = $69.33 + $80 bet = $149.33
the 5 & 9: $20 + $26.67 + $12.50 + $80 bet = $59.17 + $80 bet = $139.17
the 4 & 10: $20 + $20 + $9.09 + $80 bet = $49.09 + $80 bet = $129.09

If I was on a 3X Odds table and not betting Place to Lose, here's what I'd win:
the 6 & 8: $20 + $50 + $80 bet = $70 + $80 bet = $150
the 5 & 9: $20 + $40 + $80 bet = $60 + $80 bet = $140
the 4 & 10: $20 + $30 + $80 bet = $50 + $80 bet = $130

So with betting Place to Lose as a 3rd Odd on the machine, I'm losing
67 cents on the 6 & 8
83 cents on the 5 & 9
91 cents on the 4 & 10
versus betting 3X odds on the table.
These losing amounts would increase if I wanted to press my odds bet to 4X, 5X, or 6X, on the order of 2X, 3X, or 4X my loss as I press my Place To Lose bet.
Ace2
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November 7th, 2021 at 3:50:57 PM permalink
Quote: ChumpChange

I like my 3X odds strategy

Itís a method not a strategy. Thereís no strategy in craps besides avoiding sucker bets

If you make come bets instead of place bets yon will lower the house edge dramatically
Itís all about making that GTA
ssho88
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November 7th, 2021 at 4:03:22 PM permalink
For BUBBLE CRAPS MACHINE that only allow 2x odds, why don't you just bet $27 on the DP, $53 on Odds, and $0 on the P2L ? Total bet still remain equal to $80.
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ssho88
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November 7th, 2021 at 4:23:53 PM permalink
Quote: Ace2

Quote: ChumpChange

I like my 3X odds strategy

Itís a method not a strategy. Thereís no strategy in craps besides avoiding sucker bets

If you make come bets instead of place bets yon will lower the house edge dramatically
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I was told that there is strategy to reduce the variance but you have to pay a slightly higher cost.
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ChumpChange
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November 8th, 2021 at 5:17:37 AM permalink
Part of my 3X odds on the Don't Pass strategy is to switch sides after 2 losses on one shooter, so I'd need 3X odds on the Pass Line.
The Bubble Craps machine only allows me to bet 2X Odds. So I was thinking of adding an amount equal to the Pass Line bet to the Place Bet on the same number, that way I'll have a facsimile of 3X odds.
It pays better to Buy the 4, 5, 9, & 10 on the Bubble Craps.
the 6 & 8 Place Bet would pay 116.67%,
the 5 & 9 Buy Bet would pay 145%
the 4 & 10 Buy Bet would pay 195%

So if I had $20 on the PL, $40 on Odds, and $20 on the PB/Buy Bet, the total win would be:
the 6 & 8: $20 + $48 + $23.33 + $80 bet = $91.33 + $80 bet = $171.33
the 5 & 9: $20 + $60 + $29.00 + $80 bet = $109.00 + $80 bet = $189.00
the 4 & 10: $20 + $80 + $39.00 + $80 bet = $139.00 + $80 bet = $219.00

If I was on a 3X Odds table and not betting Place Bet/Buy Bet, here's what I'd win:
the 6 & 8: $20 + $72 + $80 bet = $92 + $80 bet = $172
the 5 & 9: $20 + $90 + $80 bet = $110 + $80 bet = $190
the 4 & 10: $20 + $120 + $80 bet = $140 + $80 bet = $220

So with betting Place Bet/Buy Bet as a 3rd Odd on the machine, I'm losing
67 cents on the 6 & 8
100 cents on the 5 & 9
100 cents on the 4 & 10
versus betting 3X odds on the table.
These losing amounts would increase if I wanted to press my odds bet to 4X, 5X, or 6X, on the order of 2X, 3X, or 4X my loss as I press my Place Bet/Buy Bet.
ChumpChange
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November 8th, 2021 at 5:31:52 AM permalink
If a shooter only makes 2 points, I'm out $240. If the shooter makes a 3rd point, I'm erasing some of my losses. If a shooter hits a 4th point I'm still behind unless a 4 /10 win are involved. I could stop betting on the shooter after the 4th point is made and be ahead. If a shooter hits a 5th point, I start pulling ahead on any number.
This strategy is meant to win on a bunch of point 7-outs (in a row), because I'll raise the odds bets on the Don't Pass 1X each on the 3rd, 4th & 5th win in a row.
At a full table of tourists instead of regulars, it's quite possible to see 10 in a row point 7-outs.
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Ace2
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November 8th, 2021 at 7:31:10 AM permalink
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At a full table of tourists instead of regulars, it's quite possible to see 10 in a row point 7-outs.
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Because tourists seven-out more than regulars ?
Itís all about making that GTA
TDVegas
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November 8th, 2021 at 11:39:35 AM permalink
Quote: ChumpChange

At a full table of tourists instead of regulars, it's quite possible to see 10 in a row point 7-outs.


LOLÖ

Check, please.
daveyandersen1
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December 15th, 2021 at 4:11:51 PM permalink
HEY CC theres alot of IF's here.............. you might be better off to play Bubble Craps Just like regular craps..WITH A FEW LONG SHOT bets here and there ,,,,,,, strategically done.
ChumpChange
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December 15th, 2021 at 4:24:08 PM permalink
I won 8 Pass Line bets in a row the other night, and pressed my bets from $2 to $20. After the 7-out, I forgot to change the denomination on my bets and plunked down $20 instead of $2 on the PL. I only had a few seconds to cancel out, change the denom, and rebet the $2. I recovered from being down $30 to being up $35 on that hand. I've been trying many, many different strategies on the Bubble Craps. The main problem is I start betting the don'ts then have a hot hand that puts me further behind. I've got to stick to the right side and do a PL & 1 PB with a progression on each for my meager $60 buy-ins.

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