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pwcrabb
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July 24th, 2019 at 4:42:11 PM permalink
Breakage bets placed on boxes 6 and 8 are very common player errors. For example, $10 placed on 8 will win $11, and $25 placed on 8 will win $29. Experienced dealers handle such breakage bets without trouble. Let's talk about some truly unusual bets that can cause a dealer to wish that he had imbibed a bit less the previous night.

To start off, why would a player want to place the 9 for $36?
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July 24th, 2019 at 5:13:25 PM permalink
You would want to buy the 9@ $36. Pays $54 less $1 vig.
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pwcrabb
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July 24th, 2019 at 5:41:47 PM permalink
Buying the 9 for $36 is a different bet. I need to know why someone would place the 9 for $36.
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July 24th, 2019 at 5:52:00 PM permalink
Quote: pwcrabb

Breakage bets placed on boxes 6 and 8 are very common player errors. For example, $10 placed on 8 will win $11, and $25 placed on 8 will win $29. Experienced dealers handle such breakage bets without trouble. Let's talk about some truly unusual bets that can cause a dealer to wish that he had imbibed a bit less the previous night.

To start off, why would a player want to place the 9 for $36?



$36

$35 plus $1 breakage

pays

$49 plus $1 breakage

pays $50?
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pwcrabb
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July 24th, 2019 at 6:34:37 PM permalink
Agreed regarding payoff as a Buy bet.

Why would someone make such a bet as a Place bet, which I have seen made and booked without dealer objection? The player pressed his winning normal $15 Place bet to $36.
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July 24th, 2019 at 7:10:52 PM permalink
Of course the dealer wonít object to a stupid bet. Instead of fifty for one itís fifty straight up, not caring he will lose $1 60% of the time.
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July 24th, 2019 at 7:46:41 PM permalink
The other day I saw an old, chain-smoking lady betting a $3 big red bet every roll after a point. I guess it was insurance.

I told her she could get a free extra $1 when it hit by simply placing the same $3 down and saying "hop the sevens" but she refused to do it because she said she'd been playing this way for 40 years. She wouldn't change a word for the extra dollar.

I wonder how many of those free dollars she has lost in that time.
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July 25th, 2019 at 12:48:57 AM permalink
Quote: pwcrabb

Buying the 9 for $36 is a different bet. I need to know why someone would place the 9 for $36.

Because they donít know or care about breakage. Maybe the dealer already advised him before or maybe not.
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July 25th, 2019 at 5:30:33 AM permalink
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Why would someone make such a bet as a Place bet, which I have seen made and booked without dealer objection? The player pressed his winning normal $15 Place bet to $36.

It could be that he momentarily confused the Place 9 with the Place 8 correct amounts. It could be that he just doesn't know the correct amounts to bet. Maybe he saw another player press his winning 6 or 8 bet up to $36 and he thought that would be a good idea for his 9. He might know that the proper odds bet for the 9 must be an even number and incorrectly assumed the same for the Place 9. Maybe it's some personal superstition.

I've seen all kinds at the Craps table. I once played at a table in Biloxi; not sure if the guy was mentally disabled or what, but he kept grabbing handfuls of his chips, tossing them onto the table, and calling out bets that he heard others call out. It was very apparent that did not understand many of the bets he was making. At one point, someone bet a two-way yo. Upon hearing this, this guy grabs a handful of chips, tosses them on the table, and calls out "Two-way yo!" I'm not sure he knew what a "yo" was, and I'm certain he had no clue what the "two-way" part meant.

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Because they donít know or care about breakage. Maybe the dealer already advised him before or maybe not.

This^^. In my experience, unless the table is super busy, the dealers will typically warn the player once when he tries to bet an improper amount on a given bet. If the player ignores the dealer, he won't advise them a second time.
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July 25th, 2019 at 7:24:27 AM permalink
Quote: sodawater

The other day I saw an old, chain-smoking lady betting a $3 big red bet every roll after a point.
I told her she could get a free extra $1 when it hit by simply placing the same $3 down and saying "hop the sevens" but she refused to do it because she said she'd been playing this way for 40 years. She wouldn't change a word for the extra dollar.

No, no. Mon Dieu!! Its 'three-way hop', but you do not utter the word "seven" or encourage anyone else to do so.

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I wonder how many of those free dollars she has lost in that time.

Too painful a sum to contemplate.

The better casinos usually have better dealers and will automatically do things like "throw me a white" or booking a place bet as a buy bet. Lammers are easier to deal with than a customer sometimes.

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