Lovecomps
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February 17th, 2019 at 11:21:53 AM permalink
I was wondering what people think of about this strategy in a craps tournament. I would basically bet whatever the table minimum is on the pass line w/o odds to conserve my bankroll and hang back while half the field might go bust while the other half get a better, in not totally offfest, posistion. Then I step in and start playing, having to deal with only half of the original conststants. As for how many contestants I'd be dealing with in terms of actual numbers- who knows.

Thoughts are welcome.
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AZDuffman
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February 17th, 2019 at 11:30:55 AM permalink
I work casino party nights where people try to win chips to cash on prize tickets. Free odds is not the way to go in a tourney. You have to bet against what most of the table is doing for one thing. IE. they bet pass you bet DP.

Next, make use of the COME bet. And place bets. You need to keep building a bankroll and your best hope is to have lots of action always paying. Consider my modified Iron Cross method where you have 2 units on 5/6/8 and one on Field. Play hardways, but avoid prop bets.

Read up on poker tourneys and notice the strategy that transfers. You are playing against the clock, you can only use so much smart by the book play.

It is rare people come from way behind unless they hit a few props in a row. Covering the board, hoping for long rolls, and selective pressing is how to do it.
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Lovecomps
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February 17th, 2019 at 11:45:54 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

I work casino party nights where people try to win chips to cash on prize tickets. Free odds is not the way to go in a tourney. You have to bet against what most of the table is doing for one thing. IE. they bet pass you bet DP.

Next, make use of the COME bet. And place bets. You need to keep building a bankroll and your best hope is to have lots of action always paying. Consider my modified Iron Cross method where you have 2 units on 5/6/8 and one on Field. Play hardways, but avoid prop bets.

Read up on poker tourneys and notice the strategy that transfers. You are playing against the clock, you can only use so much smart by the book play.

It is rare people come from way behind unless they hit a few props in a row. Covering the board, hoping for long rolls, and selective pressing is how to do it.




Are you also saying that, like a poker tournament where the blinds are raised at regular ineterales, the same is done with the craps minimum bet?
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AZDuffman
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February 17th, 2019 at 11:49:31 AM permalink
Quote: Lovecomps

Are you also saying that, like a poker tournament where the blinds are raised at regular ineterales, the same is done with the craps minimum bet?



I have never run or been in a craps toruney so no idea. What I am saying is time is limited so you cannot play like you should normally play. All your chips are worthless unless you place so build as you can then try to make a run at the end. The people I see get big stacks rarely are playing a smart strategy, they are hitting longer shots.
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ChumpChange
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February 17th, 2019 at 12:36:11 PM permalink
What do you do when you win $50,000 in promotional chips at a craps tourney? Go play baccarat at $1000 a hand? Win 9 hands and come back the next day?
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February 17th, 2019 at 12:56:42 PM permalink
Quote: ChumpChange

What do you do when you win $50,000 in promotional chips at a craps tourney? Go play baccarat at $1000 a hand? Win 9 hands and come back the next day?


This question deserves its own thread, instead of hijacking this one, chump.
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February 17th, 2019 at 1:21:43 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

I have never run or been in a craps toruney so no idea.
What I am saying is time is limited so you cannot play like you should normally play.

the events I have been in, was either timed or had a set number of rolls.
I have never won any of those events, many people just bet real big, hit 3 or 4 winners in a row and the others bust out trying to catch them.
some events actually have a max $ bet on any bet, those suck.
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ChumpChange
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February 17th, 2019 at 1:37:01 PM permalink
In half an hour will a hard 6 put you in the lead?
AZDuffman
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February 17th, 2019 at 3:27:24 PM permalink
Quote: 7craps

the events I have been in, was either timed or had a set number of rolls.
I have never won any of those events, many people just bet real big, hit 3 or 4 winners in a row and the others bust out trying to catch them.
some events actually have a max $ bet on any bet, those suck.

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I can see why they might have a max. There could be +EV to putting most to all of it on a prop bet. If you could have even a marginal effect on dice outcome by trapping them in the corner under the alligator even more so. (NOTE: Please nobody start up on dice control.)

Again, from what I have seem you need to place 6/8, press winnings, and hope for long rolls. In addition, throw down some hardway bets. You will not win a tourney hoping to max free odds and reducing house edge. You have to play like a wiseguy, make higher probability bets and hope for a good run and hardways.
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Chigu
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February 25th, 2019 at 4:20:24 PM permalink
It really all depends on the table. Was invited to a craps tournament last Saturday at my local casino. The rules were are follows

1) everyone gets $2500 in tournament chips
2) total of 25 rolls per round
3) Top 3 money winners in each round go to the final table

In the first round, it was COLD and a lot of people dropped out, there were only 4 people left at the end. The Don't players won big, also if you didn't really bet much you would have moved on.

The second round was the complete opposite. The first player rolled about 4 times, and the second roller finished off the remaining 21. So in that case you would have had to bet big or you wouldn't have made it

I didn't pay attention to the 3rd round

In the fourth round that I was in, the first roller rolled about 12 times, and the second roller finished off the remaining 13. I turned my $2500 in chips to $4700 but just missed out on top 3 by $130.

From what I gathered from the regular tournament players is to keep an eye out on everyone's stack. And once you get down to the last few rolls. IF you are down, bet a bunch of money on the hoppers and hope you hit.

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