Vig on win only Vegas craps games?
January 13th, 2019 at 9:53:55 AM
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What Vegas (not just the strip, anywhere in the greater Las Vegas Metro area) casino's charge vig only on wins in craps (lay and/or buy bets)? I've seen some old reports, but they always seem to have changed.
January 13th, 2019 at 10:05:13 AM
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I don’t know about lays, but both Aria and Ballegio charged vig on win for buying the 4/10, when I was there recently. And Aria let me buy the 5/9 if I asked special for it, though it confused the hell out of the box men.Quote: billionairebenWhat Vegas (not just the strip, anywhere in the greater Las Vegas Metro area) casino's charge vig only on wins in craps (lay and/or buy bets)? I've seen some old reports, but they always seem to have changed.
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January 13th, 2019 at 11:19:28 AM
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You can actually buy the 5/9?? Usually you get the deer in the headlights look!
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January 13th, 2019 at 12:25:49 PM
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Had to call the pit boss over the first time. He agreed I could switch from place to buy when hit $50. Not sure if that’s always policy or he just let me do it. Put a little “buy” Lammers on it and everything.Quote: DeMangoYou can actually buy the 5/9?? Usually you get the deer in the headlights look!
The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong; but that is the way to bet.
January 13th, 2019 at 12:28:22 PM
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I would imagine that anything that confuses an inexperienced crew would slow things down more than its worth.Quote: DeMangoYou can actually buy the 5/9?? Usually you get the deer in the headlights look!
January 13th, 2019 at 12:59:41 PM
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Quote: DeMangoYou can actually buy the 5/9?? Usually you get the deer in the headlights look!
In PA you can buy the 6 and 8 if you want.
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January 13th, 2019 at 2:01:30 PM
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that $50 nine pays $73. Worth quite a bit at green chip and above levels. $5 more per $100 action.Quote: FleaStiffI would imagine that anything that confuses an inexperienced crew would slow things down more than its worth.
When a rock is thrown into a pack of dogs, the one that yells the loudest is the one who got hit.
January 14th, 2019 at 7:06:47 AM
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CET & Stevens(The D & GG) charge vig on wins.
January 14th, 2019 at 8:02:31 AM
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Quote: wilbsmittCET & Stevens(The D & GG) charge vig on wins.
At some point in time, it would be nice to have a list of casinos and their rules. Buy outside, vig up front or vig on win. Maybe a separate list for 5/9. Must be a very small list for that.
When a rock is thrown into a pack of dogs, the one that yells the loudest is the one who got hit.
January 30th, 2019 at 8:05:32 PM
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Can't speak for Lays. I commonly Buy 4/10.
I've been to the Aria, MGM Grand, and Bellagio within the last year. They are all vig on win only for 4/10. They also Round Down fifty cents, so your best value, I believe, would be $30, $50, or $70, at $1, $2, and $3 vigs respectively. There's some difference on this (sometimes they'll cut it off at $25 on the $1 vig), so I will generally ask the dealer how much I will have to drop for a certain amount and determine my value.
I once asked to Buy 5 / 9 at the Aria and similar to some other posters here I got confused looks and I was told that I could not do it. They then told me if I wanted to do it, it would be vig up front, which would always be worse than placing. They didn't seem to comprehend that the vig could be paid on win only on 5 / 9, and told me that in 30 years of dealing they'd never heard of such a thing. Obviously - not true - but it was a confusing enough exchange for me to never bring it up again. I remember some other guy at the table started talking to me like I was an idiot - it left a real cluster.
I have gambled at a couple places downtown (I believe it was maybe the Four Queen's and The D? not sure) and they were vig up front. I do not remember exactly where I was, and if someone has better information I would defer to them. I remembered being surprised because I thought that Downtown was generally friendlier to gamblers, but not in that situation as it basically cripples making a 4 / 10 bet if you're trying for a reasonable house advantage.
I've been to the Aria, MGM Grand, and Bellagio within the last year. They are all vig on win only for 4/10. They also Round Down fifty cents, so your best value, I believe, would be $30, $50, or $70, at $1, $2, and $3 vigs respectively. There's some difference on this (sometimes they'll cut it off at $25 on the $1 vig), so I will generally ask the dealer how much I will have to drop for a certain amount and determine my value.
I once asked to Buy 5 / 9 at the Aria and similar to some other posters here I got confused looks and I was told that I could not do it. They then told me if I wanted to do it, it would be vig up front, which would always be worse than placing. They didn't seem to comprehend that the vig could be paid on win only on 5 / 9, and told me that in 30 years of dealing they'd never heard of such a thing. Obviously - not true - but it was a confusing enough exchange for me to never bring it up again. I remember some other guy at the table started talking to me like I was an idiot - it left a real cluster.
I have gambled at a couple places downtown (I believe it was maybe the Four Queen's and The D? not sure) and they were vig up front. I do not remember exactly where I was, and if someone has better information I would defer to them. I remembered being surprised because I thought that Downtown was generally friendlier to gamblers, but not in that situation as it basically cripples making a 4 / 10 bet if you're trying for a reasonable house advantage.
