90crapsplayer66
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March 23rd, 2018 at 9:45:07 PM permalink
Crap Friends,
I need some clarification. (I'm playing the "Right Way"--with a slight modification)
I'm starting with \$10 on the Pass line. The Come Out roll is a 6.
I put odds of \$25 on the \$10 Pass Line bet.
My next bet is a defensive/hedge bet of \$60 in the Don't Come box. The Come Out roll for this Don't Come bet is also a 6.
Here's my confusion: Because the D/C bet hit the Point (6), do I lose the \$60.
But, do I get paid on my opening Pass Line \$10 bet and the \$25 odds bet?
Dick
mustangsally
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March 23rd, 2018 at 10:40:35 PM permalink
Quote: 90crapsplayer66

Crap Friends,
I need some clarification. (I'm playing the "Right Way"--with a slight modification)
I'm starting with \$10 on the Pass line. The Come Out roll is a 6.
I put odds of \$25 on the \$10 Pass Line bet.

ok
looks like so

Quote: 90crapsplayer66

My next bet is a defensive/hedge bet of \$60 in the Don't Come box.

But a don't come bet will lose on a 7 as will the pass and pass odds bet.
Quote: 90crapsplayer66

The Come Out roll for this Don't Come bet is also a 6.

ok. you mean the very next roll is a six winner!
Pass line is a WINNER!
Yahoo!!

the odds really get paid first

Quote: 90crapsplayer66

Here's my confusion: Because the D/C bet hit the Point (6), do I lose the \$60.
But, do I get paid on my opening Pass Line \$10 bet and the \$25 odds bet?

the don't come bet moves to behind the six.
like so

Player now has a choice also to ask for "no action on the 6" or let it travel,
as many do not want to see that bet lose.
Players choice to do as what feels good to them.
many say , let it travel.
and when the next comeout roll IS a 6, well, one knows the story

Hope all is clear here
you are not the 1st to be confused about that situation

Sally
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FleaStiff
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March 24th, 2018 at 1:33:23 AM permalink
Quote: 90crapsplayer66

: Because the D/C bet hit the Point (6), do I lose the \$60.

There is no "point' for your Don't Come bet until after the dice roll.
Its often permissible to declare 'no action' on the Don't Come bet and prevent it from "travelling" to the six or eight, but this is not usually a wise thing to do since you would be abandoning a slightly advantageous bet.
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March 24th, 2018 at 6:30:21 AM permalink

if you could get that kind of advantage on every bet you could quit your job and with a small bankroll ultimately break the bank at any casino in no time.

players get misled into this foolishness on an enormous scale. I'd guess from what I've seen at least a third of dedicated darkside players take 'no action' on the 6 and 8.
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March 24th, 2018 at 7:45:54 AM permalink
Quote: mustangsally

ok

[After the DC travels to the 6...] Player now has a choice also to ask for "no action on the 6" or let it travel,
as many do not want to see that bet lose.

Sally

Since you seem to embrace hedge bets, you could also guarantee a small win, regardless of whatever rolls follow. Place \$54 on the 6, and tell the Dealer to keep it working on the come-out roll:

• If Shooter rolls a 6, you lose \$60 on your DP and win \$63 on your Place bet.
• If Shooter rolls a 7, you lose \$54 on your Place bet and win \$60 on your DP bet.
• If Shooter rolls anything else, you neither win nor lose any money.

As others will scream through gritted teeth, you will win more money more often by letting your DP bet work during subsequent rolls, rather than hedging it or taking it down. But, you did mention hedging, so this is an option.