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FleaStiff
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June 22nd, 2015 at 5:09:58 AM permalink
Quote: DeMango

So is there a police record of this event? LVRJ?



Probably not, no one wants adverse publicity. He was probably stealing two samples to take home with him to test and destroy, not re-use. why would a casino create bad headlines when they can trespass him and have him sign a confession.

If you know his name, anyone in the detention center is available on line.
MrV
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June 22nd, 2015 at 5:32:35 AM permalink
Quote: DanMahoney

Early Thursday morning I witnessed a remarkable event. One local from Vegas, a well known, crack, unbalanced dice researcher was jerked off of a craps table at Paris (i.e., the first table encountered on the walkway from Ballys). He was searched and made to take off his shoes. When security shook his shoes a die from each of his shoes fell from holes drilled in the bottom soles of each shoes. The unbalanced dice researcher was then hauled away by security. Based on the little I know about Vegas, except what I absorbed from the movie Casino, we should all pray for his well being.



A couple issues with this report:

How would the OP just happen to know the identity of this "crack, unbalanced dice researcher?"

Would security search a player publicly, e.g. on the casino floor as the OP reports, or would they escort a suspect off the floor and do it privately?
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AxelWolf
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June 22nd, 2015 at 6:11:04 AM permalink
Quote: RS

Dice get thrown off the table all the time. But it is very rare for a die to actually get lost and never recovered. I remember one time, a die was thrown off the table and ended up (somehow) ending up underneath a slot machine, or something like that. The only other time a die wasn't recovered is because someone walking by grabbed it and put it in his pocket and walked off with it (no one saw it at the time)....surveillance was called, the guy was confronted and told to give up the die he swooped or get 86'd (and arrested?).

It is weird that he had TWO dice though (if that part is actually true). I'm quite suspicious of the story being true at face value. Something seems very weird, here. Or else, maybe the guy was a total idiot and thought he could swoop up 2 dice, continue hanging around / playing, and wouldn't get caught? Idk...


As far as possession of a cheating device...I don't know the laws in that regard. But I suspect you'd have to be using the device, in the casino, in a way to alter the odds, for it to be illegal. I don't think simply possessing a device or even possessing a cheating device in a casino is illegal.....you'd have to be using the device for it to be illegal.

I actually think its illegal to be in possession of a cheating device in Nevada. Order up a light wand or something like that, toss it in you car and test the theory for us.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
AxelWolf
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June 22nd, 2015 at 6:19:42 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

A couple issues with this report:

How would the OP just happen to know the identity of this "crack, unbalanced dice researcher?"

Would security search a player publicly, e.g. on the casino floor as the OP reports, or would they escort a suspect off the floor and do it privately?

The story seems bizarre but why would someone make this up? I was wondering about open searching myself, but sometimes they don't think, I have seen someone searched in the open. They may be afraid of the evidence disappearing or something.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
ThatDonGuy
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June 22nd, 2015 at 6:40:00 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Heck, he probably was just trying to obtain a pair of dice and then prove to himself that dice as in actual use are not perfect.
the venetian is the only casino in town that destroys its used dice, everyone else drills them and sells them in the gift shop.


But not necessarily in their own gift shop. In past trips, I noticed that Planet Hollywood, Rio, and Cosmopolitan did not sell their own dice ("I went to the gift shop and asked for dice, but it was no dice"), but the gift shop at Them - er, The M - did. Slots O Fun also sold dice from other casinos (MLife ones, I think).
jeffwarren75
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June 22nd, 2015 at 6:49:00 AM permalink
Is anyone sure this is not a joke
MrV
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June 22nd, 2015 at 7:34:28 AM permalink
Quote: jeffwarren75

Is anyone sure this is not a joke



Nobody's laughing.

The thing about the post that raised my guard is that the OP claims to know little about Las Vegas ("Based on the little I know about Vegas, except what I absorbed from the movie Casino, we should all pray for his well being"), yet somehow he recognizes that the person in question was in fact the "unbalanced dice researcher."

Really?

How could he possibly have determined that?

Answer: he couldn't.
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miplet
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June 22nd, 2015 at 8:16:39 AM permalink
Quote: DeMango

This is not the first time. I have known about this happening years ago. A friend of a friend of a friend. I mentioned this on the bias thread I believe. Wonder if my mentioning this on the board incited him to try again?


Just for a reference from here
Quote: DeMango

Here is how you do it. You cut a hole in your shoe. You have a friend toss the dice off the table. Your shoe "pockets" the die, it cannot be found. Then do the testing at home. What were the results??

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June 22nd, 2015 at 8:27:54 AM permalink
I hope that this is a joke. It doesn't always matter if your motivations are pure or not. If you are SUSPECTED of ANYTHING relating to cheating, they don't have to tell you anything and you can be 86'd for any reason without them even telling you why.

It should also be noted that ANYONE cheating harms EVERYONE (players and casinos alike) by cheating.
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FleaStiff
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June 22nd, 2015 at 8:30:11 AM permalink
I know used decks of cards are sorted by prison labor, perhaps its similar with retired dice.

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