Craps worst scenarios
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Laying the 4,shooter rolls 4.Then sevens out right after.
Buying the 10. Shooter doesn't roll it in their set. Sevens out. Next shooter rolls 3 10s in their set and you didn't buy.
Multiple shooters seven out within 5 mins and your not laying or playing the DP.
Shooter rolls multiple Yo's on the come out and you don't have a bet on eleven.
Your hardway hits and you don't parlay or press then you hit it again on the next roll.
Shooter keeps rolling the same place number you don't have money on. Then you place that number and they seven out.
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Quote: ontariodealershow up at 2 to deal craps and every player is over 70..........oh the humanity.
Do they give you Viagra as a tip?
Odds on your side at that point the whole way. It has happened to me [with all or nearly all numbers set up] and I wonder if it is one of those astronomical odds-against figures.
Good thread!
Quote: odiousgambitDecide to play the Darkside and you get to the point loading up with the DC that you have all the numbers to be resolved, plus the line to resolve. The shooter picks off every one of your numbers till you can't make yourself DC any more to replace them. Then he continues to pick them all off and finally with only the line bet left, for insult to injury, he make his point too!
Odds on your side at that point the whole way. It has happened to me [with all or nearly all numbers set up] and I wonder if it is one of those astronomical odds-against figures.
Good thread!
I've see this happen more than often. I obviously have witnessed the reverse. One night at Gold Coast a guy was using the same DC strategy and made out pretty nice for himself. Funniest shit was he decided to shoot and hit his point while still betting the DP/DC. He was the only shooter at the table that got on the board! Call it poetic justice I guess.
Quote: PlayYourCardsRightFor me, it's when I get the bases loaded. The point/odds and every number with a come bet and odds. Before anything pays out, that blasted 7 hits.
Oh gosh that one hurts. I stop playing the come. Too many contracted bets can diminish your bankroll. My theory is,have as much control over table as You can. Another horrible "scenario" I should add.. You start playing the come and the shooter keeps rolling craps.then finally hits a point,you take odds,then the dreaded 7 comes.
Quote: odiousgambitDecide to play the Darkside and you get to the point loading up with the DC that you have all the numbers to be resolved, plus the line to resolve. The shooter picks off every one of your numbers till you can't make yourself DC any more to replace them. Then he continues to pick them all off and finally with only the line bet left, for insult to injury, he make his point too!
Odds on your side at that point the whole way. It has happened to me [with all or nearly all numbers set up] and I wonder if it is one of those astronomical odds-against figures.
Good thread!
This 100%. Seems to happen quite a bit. They always seem to throw that 7 after you decide to stop replacing them, refuse to buy in more money, etc. The only difference, for the insult to injury, is usually I get picked off over and over and then when I have just ONE bet left, they'll 7 out so I "win" something...
It seems to be that only when I am on the Dark Side do I keep making the DC bets .... after all once I am over that initial hurdle, they are in MY favor on every roll.
Yet if I'm on the Right Side, I will have the self restraint to only make two Come Bets and stop there, so I will have a Pass Line bet and a more modest two Come Bets and I will have the self restraint to stop there and simply await the results.
Its the fact that the Seven is always the most likely number to be rolled... helps me not over extend myself as a Right Bettor but makes me keep going and going with those Dont Pass bets.
Then went next door to Ditz , then called the Fitz. Just killing some time. Alone at a craps table I put $5 on the line and I get five sevens in a row followed by an eleven. The dealers were nonchalant about it but I knew this was really rare. Won $30!
Quote: GreasyjohnLong ago I was at the Four Queens where I had $100 on the don't come. Shooter rolls a 10. Oh yeah! Put out $200 as odds. Turn to my friend and borrow another $100. What's the matter with me, I could have put out another $100 for 2 times odds? But what a beautiful sight seeing 4 black out there! Couple rolls later shooter makes his 10. (And I thought I was going to take off like Archie.)
Then went next door to Ditz , then called the Fitz. Just killing some time. Alone at a craps table I put $5 on the line and I get five sevens in a row followed by an eleven. The dealers were nonchalant about it but I knew this was really rare. Won $30!
Even though 10 & 4 share the same value of combinations. For some reason I always see more 10s rolled than 4s. Maybe it's randomization of 5 and 6 when each die is rolled? If you think about it, 8 uses the 6 or 5 on one die to make an eight. where 10 uses the 6 or 5 also on one die to make a 10.Obviously the probability of rolling an 8 is better but I feel it's easier to dodge the 1,2,and 3,so I always bet against the 4 and never the 10.
Now wouldn't it be great if you had those black chips on the pass at the Ditz!
You have a don't pass bet and the point is 10, shooter hits it. Next point is 4 and shooter hits that. You get scarred and decide to wait for a new shooter before going back on the don't pass. Next point is a 6 or 8 and shoot goes out immediately.
You have a large $400 don't pass get, point is 4. You decide to put a little insurance on it with a $50 hard 4. 4 comes easy!
You only have $200 with you and your playing donts. Shooter has a come out roll that goes something like this (7,7 12, 11, 11, 7, 7, point), eating up half your bankroll on a stupid come out roll,
You have been at the casino for several hours and you bought it for $300 and are down $300. You decide to just put all your money on the dont's hoping one bet will get you back to even, shooter rolls an 11 on the come out roll. I can't tell you how many times that has happened to me.
Haha, yeah, the dice have an evil inclination sometimes!Quote: guitarmandpYou are on the Fire and shooter make the two hardest points (4 & 10) and you think you have a great shot at winning. Shooter goes out on a 6 or 8!
You have a don't pass bet and the point is 10, shooter hits it. Next point is 4 and shooter hits that. You get scarred and decide to wait for a new shooter before going back on the don't pass. Next point is a 6 or 8 and shoot goes out immediately.
You have a large $400 don't pass get, point is 4. You decide to put a little insurance on it with a $50 hard 4. 4 comes easy!
You only have $200 with you and your playing donts. Shooter has a come out roll that goes something like this (7,7 12, 11, 11, 7, 7, point), eating up half your bankroll on a stupid come out roll,
You have been at the casino for several hours and you bought it for $300 and are down $300. You decide to just put all your money on the dont's hoping one bet will get you back to even, shooter rolls an 11 on the come out roll. I can't tell you how many times that has happened to me.
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Then my wife told me not to let people peer-pressure me. So, like a dope, I started playing the pass line. When it came my turn to shoot, I rolled a six as my point and put out two place bets. Next roll? The damn seven.
To add icing to the feces cake, I walked to a Spanish 21 table - got dealt two 3s against a 7. Being too much of a chicken...ahem, feces to split them, I hit. A nine. Then another nine. I would have has 21 on the first hand - and a guaranteed win - had I used my brain.
So I got slaughtered in Windsor. And it's my own fault.
anecdotally, you are adding to the evidence [g]
DP: 7-7-7-11-7-6-7-6-6-point#. Confidence shot - bathroom break...
Quote: guitarmandpYou are on the Fire and shooter make the two hardest points (4 & 10) and you think you have a great shot at winning. Shooter goes out on a 6 or 8!
You have a don't pass bet and the point is 10, shooter hits it. Next point is 4 and shooter hits that. You get scarred and decide to wait for a new shooter before going back on the don't pass. Next point is a 6 or 8 and shoot goes out immediately.
You have a large $400 don't pass get, point is 4. You decide to put a little insurance on it with a $50 hard 4. 4 comes easy!
You only have $200 with you and your playing donts. Shooter has a come out roll that goes something like this (7,7 12, 11, 11, 7, 7, point), eating up half your bankroll on a stupid come out roll,
You have been at the casino for several hours and you bought it for $300 and are down $300. You decide to just put all your money on the dont's hoping one bet will get you back to even, shooter rolls an 11 on the come out roll. I can't tell you how many times that has happened to me.
No shame, I've been hit by every one of these scenarios as well, smh
Player walks up to the table and buys in for $3,000. Bets $600 on the place 6 -- and no other bets.
Five shooters in a row fail to roll at least one six.
The player loses all $3,000 and leaves.
Next shooter.
Come out point is 6.
Next roll, hard 6 -- winner.
Next roll, come out 6.
A few rolls later makes the 6.
I am the next shooter. I make four points on the fire bet -- including the 6 twice. Plus I rolled multiple 6s during the other points.
But how much fun did he have?Quote: AlanMendelsonthe worst I've seen was this past Thursday at Caesars:
Player walks up to the table and buys in for $3,000. Bets $600 on the place 6 -- and no other bets.
Five shooters in a row fail to roll at least one six.
The player loses all $3,000 and leaves.
Dan
* A total newb who repeatedly insisted on betting the "Horn High" AFTER the shooter had the dice. Dealer would repeated ask "High What?" and the player would respond "What?" It was comical. They finally explained that he needed to identify what the odd dollar was bet on. Didn't matter, he kept doing it. Finally they'd just yell "no bet", it was clearly irking the shooter having this guy wave his single chip over the table when he was about to shoot.
* Had a 'big spender' drop a mixed wad on the felt and it was mish-mash of bills adding up to about $2K. They had to sort & count & and then give him a specific chip allocation. Of course, dice are stopped during this. (In between shooters.) Player collects the chips AND THEN takes them all the adjacent table without placing a bet. Annoyed players, annoyed dealers, annoyed pit boss.
* An elderly, but enthusiastic, dealer named "Quoc", which everyone was pronouncing as "Quack", was seemingly on a training shift. On a Saturday night! Very slow, all his payoffs were being double checked. He really didn't have any patter, the only entertaining part was the drunk folks all quacking at him to get his attention. (You apparently had to do so to get him to move your chips to their appropriate spots, otherwise the roll would happen and he'd be confused, as if those chips magically appeared.)
* The table started heating up but then these two don't players sidled up - they were very silent but deadly. Took it as my cue to move on. They eventually cleared the tub. I hate it when these guys show up. (No ill will harbored, of course, towards my wrong-way bretheren.)
* Very rowdy crowd. As might be expected, they were all into the Steelers game but I thought a riot was going to break out when 90% of the TVs switched over to the UFC PPV event. Again, it just slowed everything down. Seemed like we were doing 20 rolls an hour. =(
Quote: teddysBut how much fun did he have?
answer: Not enough. (Even if the final results were the same.)
Quote: guitarmandpYou have a don't pass bet and the point is 10, shooter hits it. Next point is 4 and shooter hits that. You get scarred and decide to wait for a new shooter before going back on the don't pass. Next point is a 6 or 8 and shoot goes out immediately.
I too hit a lot of those other situations, but this one I never feel bad about. When I make a decision to stop betting a specific shooter, I hold to it. Can't kick yourself after the fact for making the decision you felt was right at the time. Also, I bet you mostly remember these scenarios, but rarely remember when you sit out on betting DP/DC on a shooter, then he points 6 times in a row (which would have murdered you). I always rejoice when I sit out from the DP/DC and a shooter goes on fire. I even root for the table, money down or not.
I love it that many players feel that we on the dark side can influence the dice. Powerful I am!
Darth
Quote: nodicemanI hate when my point is established as > 7, and then my come bet is established as < 7, so I can't cheer for high numbers or low numbers on the dice. If the point is, say, 10, and if I'm playing the right way, I know I want to see 4, 5, or 6 on whichever die I'm looking at, and even if it comes up as 6-2, 6-3, 6-5, or 6-6, I'm happy that at least I had a chance of winning. When the pass and come numbers are split high and low, though, I just close my eyes and sigh.
But that situation should be even better for you. ;-)
After all, you have a chance to win no matter what number the first die you see has on it..........
Even wearing all-black clothing doesn't provoke much of a reaction these days. Maybe I should follow your lead and don a mask and helmet. Maybe even a cape.Quote: darthvaderI love it that many players feel that we on the dark side can influence the dice. Powerful I am!
Quote: RaleighCraps
After all, you have a chance to win no matter what number the first die you see has on it..........
This is EXACTLY why the dark side is so damn tempting.
2 of us sharing a table and a young black kid walks up and buys in for $20 and joins us. Doesn't really make any bets until it's his turn to shoot. After going 7, 11 and 12 he rolls 9 to establish the point. I toss in $22 inside (including the point and I've got $1 on all the hard way numbers). Shooter rolls long enough for me to press up from $22 inside to $160 across along with hitting a couple of hard way parlays and horn bets but hasn't hit a point yet. A group of his friends walk up to the table and the only female in the group starts busting his balls about not answering his phone and them being late and that they are leaving without him blah... blah... blah. Wanna guess what the next roll was???
Quote: wrongwaybostonI take my lumps along with everyone & sometimes win like everyone, but my personal worst case scenario is having a table full of hop-bettors & hardways & horn high & whirls. It takes forever to get all the bets placed (every roll) & forever to pay them if they happen to win. I want a straight-up table, Right Way or Wrong Way with no prop bets. Hey, why not, we have express lines at the grocery store!
Dan
I actually don't mind hop bets during a come out roll. A lot of people will hop the 7's to cover their hardway bets on a come out roll. That doesn't bother me. It's when somebody walks up to the table with a bunch of white chips and does stupid hop bets between every single roll of the dice.
Also I don't know why I find this annoying but I do find it very annoying. Shooter has the dice in their hand and some ameteur starts throwing in late bets while the shooter is about to shoot. I don't know why it bothers me but it does.
1. You bet two numbers and the shooter hits every single number that you don't have multiple times but never hits your number. This happened to me more than a few times today. The most frustrating thing is that I was shooting from the pass line. I had maybe a 15 or 20 minute roll and all I had was 6 and 8. I killed the outside numbers. I rolled the 4 and 10 at least 3 times each and I must have rolled 7 or 8 9's because the guy next to me got his 9 up to $600 and hit it from the $50 he started out (He made $3,000 off my roll). Anyways the point was 6 and I never hit it and I only hit my 8 once, which I pressed. Anyways I was rolling so many numbers that I thought I was definitely going to make the 6 so I went heavy on my odds. The 6 never came, I lost $100 and the guy next to me made 3 grand. He did put me on the hard 6 which I never made. He said to me "You should have bet all that across instead of on odds on one number". If I would have known I was going to roll all those outside numbers I would have put my entire bank account on the outside numbers!
It is extremely frustrating when all of the numbers except the ones you are betting on are hitting. There were a couple of times where at a $25 table I only put down a $30 8 and the 6 came like 5 times and the 8 never came! I'm afraid if I move the 8 to the 6 then they will start rolling the 8 and my 6 won't come (That seems to always happen when I move numbers).
Anyways the guy next to me that went across made $3,000 off my roll doing $260 across and I lost over $100 because I had the 6 and 8, pressed my 8 and never hit the 6. He had black chips on all the numbers but my two numbers (The point and the 8)
2. This also happened today. One of the few times I went across I was shooting. I had $81 across and I was rolling well. I always do full pressure the first time my number hits when I'm across. Anyways I hit every number and get everything pressed up. I roll the dice and this player goes and increase the odds that are on her passline bet and the dice hits her hand hard and it's a 7 out. I was furious. $81 + my $15 passline bet and my odds all gone because her hand hit the dice. To make matters worse this player started yelling at me for "throwing the dice too hard" , she said I hurt her hand. I said "That's not my problem lady, if I'm walking on a sidewalk and see a car driving past the speed limit, I try not to run in front of it"
Quote: guitarmandpYou bet two numbers and the shooter hits every single number that you don't have multiple times but never hits your number
without question the most maddening part of rightside play
I don't try to 'spread across' to get all the numbers covered, but I see why players do. If I have a hunch the shooter will do well, I start making Come bets. I don't have to tell you what's the frustration that can happen then, should the dice gods not smile!
Quote: guitarmandpmy $15 passline bet and my odds all gone because her hand hit the dice
just for the record, she is just as likely to have caused what would have been a 7-out, to have hit the number you wanted instead. [OK, I admit it always seems to happen the other way! lol]
Quote: odiousgambitwithout question the most maddening part of rightside play
I don't try to 'spread across' to get all the numbers covered, but I see why players do. If I have a hunch the shooter will do well, I start making Come bets. I don't have to tell you what's the frustration that can happen then, should the dice gods not smile!
just for the record, she is just as likely to have caused what would have been a 7-out, to have hit the number you wanted instead. [OK, I admit it always seems to happen the other way! lol]
It's extremely frustrating when you are having a good roll, have a lot of money on the table, and a 7 is caused by somebody's hands getting in the way.
Btw: a big fight occurred at the casino and somebody ended up getting beat up over this. This seven stars guy that bets big was playing. This lady walked up to the table and started making late field bets. Anyways the dice hit her hand while making a late field bet causing a 7. This guy started yelling at her calling her a bitch and a cunt. Her boyfriend punched him in the face knocked him down and then got on the ground and started ground pounding him until a floor manager pulled the guy off of him. Both parties are banned for 30 days.
Count my chips, I got a small win so hand in all but 5 singles. I put 2 or 3 on the DP for a dealer bet.
Shooter on other side sets up a point, I lay the remaining 2 or 3 singles on the DP, walk away.
Few moments later, "7 out, line down" and a player "It hit the chips....WAIT WHAT THE F*** NO ONE'S EVEN OVER THERE'S WHO'S CHIPS ARE THOSE?"
I know the feeling...
I've found that Working 2 come bets works a little better than just a placed 6 & 8.
But at least I didn't keep chasing the DP!
One number away from hitting a win on the Small/Tall/All. Shooter sevens out. Next shooter comes out with that number.
The drunk Russian chick. Very pretty. Who told me at 8pm on a Saturday night, "I have been drinking since 10 o'clock last night."
I believed her. A lot. I even recalled seeing her at the hotel nightclub the previous night. A lot less drunk, I presume.
I shouldn't have bought in next to her; the table had that spot open for a reason.
I should have moved when I saw that she nearly spilled her drink on the felt. Repeatedly. But I must admit it added to the excitement and suspense. The dealer (to my immediate right) seemed a tad annoyed with her for some reason. But, in true Russian alcoholic fashion, she never spilled a drop.
I *really* should have moved when the cocktail waitress (nicely) cut her off. I've never seen that happen before at a craps table. But my new Russian friend left, and came back in a few minutes with another drink (for some reason no one wanted to stand next to me so her spot stayed open). I have no idea what she drank: some dark and powerful liquid.
"This game has too many rules!" "What numbers do they play in this game?" "Why don't they let me roll the dice?" (she didn't bet). Then, during an incredible hot streak by a shooter, while I had a really monster bet up on the pass line with odds, she suddenly bet the don't pass line (and lost).
Well, how many dealers out there have seen someone throw up on the table? I wonder. I guess you guys have seen it all; they should pay you more. Me? I have led a sheltered life.
Then her hot Russian friend got excited because she won, jumped up and down, and burned her on the leg with her cigarette. By accident. I think.
The hell of it all: I won. A lot. Nearly triple my buy in. Of course, she told me during the streak (as an obvious craps expert) that I shouldn't bet so much. "Take it away! Don't bet that much!"
My winning, of course, increased my sexual attraction. I've noticed that before. Go figure.
While I raked in a purple chip her very pretty Russian friend said, "Oh, purple! My favorite color." Right. Yes, of *course*. I told her, "Yes, it's my new favorite color too." She seemed irked that I wouldn't make her a present of the pretty purple chip. But my new Russian drunk friend (who didn't seem after money, to her credit) said, "My favorite color is sparkle!" She proceeded to show me all the sparkly stuff on her clothing, shoes, cleavage, etc. I could only agree out of politeness, as an excuse to ogle her, that we should consider "sparkle" a color.
She had really nice legs. Pity her friend burned one of her thighs.
But really, what could possibly go wrong if I brought a staggering-drunk very pretty young scantily clad Russian chick back to my hotel room who kept saying things like "Ukraine is Russian! Putin is God!" in the same tone of voice that most people use for saying passionate things about their favorite sports team? (I didn't; while I found her extremely pretty and I have needs, it turns out that I have standards -- even more strangely: I don't regret it -- I have learned much about myself at the tables). I took my winnings, tipped the dealers, and went and had a glass of Perriet-Jouet (alone) at one of the hotel restaurants and then went to bed.
I feel certain I did security a favor.
Well, you know, it makes life interesting. "More entertainment value." My craps mantra.
