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October 21st, 2013 at 11:08:59 AM permalink
I bet 1.00 on the don't pass side and get thru the first roll which is a 4, 5 or 6 . I then out the max in odds of 6.00, what are the odds of a 7 eventually coming up? And what is the house edge? On the strip by the way...
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October 21st, 2013 at 11:38:39 AM permalink
https://wizardofodds.com/games/craps

BTW, where the heck on the Strip are you playing that has $1 minimum tables???
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October 21st, 2013 at 12:07:57 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

https://wizardofodds.com/games/craps

BTW, where the heck on the Strip are you playing that has $1 minimum tables???



Really? I used a dollar instead of 1000!
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October 21st, 2013 at 12:18:14 PM permalink
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Really? I used a dollar instead of 1000!


Huh??
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October 21st, 2013 at 12:18:39 PM permalink
Quote: mds

I bet 1.00 on the don't pass side and get thru the first roll which is a 4, 5 or 6 . I then out the max in odds of 6.00, what are the odds of a 7 eventually coming up? And what is the house edge? On the strip by the way...



I think you are confused.

IF you have ANY "line bet" (PASSLINE, DontPass, Comeline, DontComeline) that is ALL you have for one roll. After that initial roll, your LINE BET has THREE possibilities, either been won, lost or it has neither been won nor lost. If has neither been won nor lost it has had a point number associated with it and the rolling continues until either that point number rolls or a Seven is rolled.

Example: You are standing there with chips and hear the stick call out "Coming Out Roll' or some such phrase. You glance again at the table sign near the boxman and see what the minimum line bet is and lets say you put TEN Dollars on the PASS LINE. The shooter kisses and caresses the dice and eventually decides to actually roll them. IF he rolls a Natural, 7 or 11 your bet wins. IF he rolls Craps, 2,3 or 12, your bet loses. If he rolls anything else, lets say a 4, your bet has neither won nor lost but is now part of the "bonus round" where the hockey puck has been moved to the 4 and your pass line bet is now determined solely by ShooterMakesHisPoint OR ShooterRollsSeven. During this time you have no obligation to do anything but wait around. IF you choose to you can make an additional "ODDS BET" about two inches behind your PassLine bet. The odds bet can pretty much be any amount from 1 times your PassLine Bet up to that table's odds factor. Lets say the sign says 20xOdds. You can bet from 10.00 to 200.00 in odds and the dealer will suggest any adjustments to avoid your short changing yourself.

Whether you make an odds bet does not affect how much your passline bet will win.

If the shooter keeps rolling, you can CHOOSE to make a ComeLine bet. This means that although there is already a Point number, you are making a VIRTUAL passline bet... the dealer will leave your come bet where it is and Take it if it loses or pay it if in wins, but once again, if it neither wins nor loses, it merely gets associated with its own point number. The dealer, who is now out of Hockey Pucks, will use your stack of chips as a substitute hockey puck to mark the point number for you recent come bet.

Place bets which are essentially Come Bets that travel to a particular player selected number are a different type of bet. If you want to make a Place Bet the house will pay off at a differentrate to reflect that they allowed you to CHOOSE which number it would land on. Place bets, particularl the 6 and 8 get a little different treatment due to payout odds and so dealers will definitely remind you to bet the proper amount to avoid cheating yourself. Since a 6 0R 8 pays 5:6, they will encourage you to bet it in multiples of 6 dollars. At a ten dollar table, you could place the 6 or 8 for 12 dollars.

Keep this straight in your mind as separate bets.
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October 21st, 2013 at 12:33:24 PM permalink
Quote: mds

I bet 1.00 on the don't pass side and get thru the first roll which is a 4, 5 or 6 . I then out the max in odds of 6.00, what are the odds of a 7 eventually coming up? And what is the house edge? On the strip by the way...



Doesn't matter what the point is as long as you make it past the come-out roll, that's the killer on the don't side. I think i read somewhere that you have a 66% chance of winning once you get on a number, whether that be 4,5,6,8,9,10. Someone can confirm or correct the 66% number.
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October 21st, 2013 at 1:25:08 PM permalink
Thanks Alan, that is exactly what I was asking. What is the % of me winning once a point is established. But isn't the % of me winning if the point is a 6 rather than a 10?
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October 21st, 2013 at 2:01:55 PM permalink
4, 5, 6... 2/3, 3/5, 6/11. 66% chance of winning only with a 4 or 10.
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October 21st, 2013 at 3:18:38 PM permalink
nice questions
Quote: mds

I bet 1.00 on the don't pass side and get thru the first roll which is a 4, 5 or 6 .

no 8,9 or 10?
Quote: mds

I then out the max in odds of 6.00,

"out the max" excellent!
way better than put

Quote: mds

what are the odds of a 7 eventually coming up?

100%
unless you really want for the 4or10 is 6/9
5or9 is 6/10
6or8 is 6/11

Quote: mds

And what is the house edge? On the strip by the way...

about 1.4% on the flat bet and 0% on the odds
this keeps it very simple

if you mean combined house edge, that forces one to know the average bet made.
something like 1/3 * $1 + 2/3 * $7
someone else can easily answer this one
3X-4X-5X
per bet made: 0.00273
per bet resolved: 0.00281
per roll: 0.00081
https://wizardofodds.com/games/craps/

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October 21st, 2013 at 4:04:32 PM permalink
Quote: ahiromu

4, 5, 6... 2/3, 3/5, 6/11. 66% chance of winning only with a 4 or 10.



See, I told ya someone would correct me if I was wrong. So, your answer, I suppose is 66%, 60% and 54.5% respectively. And as noted the 4/10 is the 66%, so the remaining pairs is as follows: 5/9(60%) and 6/8(54.5%).

You can't discount the come-out roll, it's part of the game too and it can kill you on the don't. And of course you can always pick up a don't bet after it travels to a point, but it's not a good idea since you're at the advantage...just added to be complete.

I hope everything I've stated in this post is correct.
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October 22nd, 2013 at 9:24:33 PM permalink
Sorry 7craps typing too fast and not checking what im writing. Very funny though. LOL
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October 22nd, 2013 at 9:26:59 PM permalink
Once again, thanks Alan that's what I was looking for. Sorry for all the typos..
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