Placing point instead of taking odds
November 19th, 2012 at 10:05:45 AM
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While, playing craps the other night, I noticed that the guy next to me was always placing the point instead of taking odds. I was debating whether or not to ask him why. I was worried that if I engaged him, I was in store for a long, rambling tirade.
Finally, I just had to know. "Why do you place the point instead of taking odds?"
"Well," he said, "this way I have complete control over the bet. I can take it down any time I want, I can increase the bet, I can decrease it... I have complete control. And the payout is not that much worse than taking odds."
I considered pointing out that he could do the same thing with odds, but decided against it. I felt a long, rambling tirade was still a possibility.
Finally, I just had to know. "Why do you place the point instead of taking odds?"
"Well," he said, "this way I have complete control over the bet. I can take it down any time I want, I can increase the bet, I can decrease it... I have complete control. And the payout is not that much worse than taking odds."
I considered pointing out that he could do the same thing with odds, but decided against it. I felt a long, rambling tirade was still a possibility.
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November 19th, 2012 at 10:17:09 AM
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So he made a pass line bet every time and just didn't take his odds? Lol
That's a moronic way to play, but good thinking on staying quiet.
That's a moronic way to play, but good thinking on staying quiet.
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November 19th, 2012 at 10:17:57 AM
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For that, I would have just said "you know, you can take down the odds part of a line bet at any time," and left it at that. If he had further questions, point him to the dealers who should be able to confirm. I've never seen someone place the point who already had a line bet.
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November 19th, 2012 at 10:38:18 AM
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...I'd hand him a WoO/WoV business card:Quote: MathExtremistFor that, I would have just said "you know, you can take down the odds part of a line bet at any time," and left it at that. If he had further questions....
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November 19th, 2012 at 10:42:57 AM
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Sorry, yes, he had a $12.00 pass line bet every time. ($12.00. Another reason I wasn't particularly interested in engaging him.)Quote: ahiromuSo he made a pass line bet every time and just didn't take his odds?
A few years back at Wynn, I saw a high roller placing the point instead of taking odds on his pass line bet. He told me that he did it so that he'd get a better rating at the casino. (Casinos typically don't rate players on their odds bet because there's no house edge.) Apparently that was more important to him than winning more/losing less money. (At least he had a "legitimate" reason.)
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November 19th, 2012 at 10:49:05 AM
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I missed the line bet part..what a donk!
When I play, I place/buy the point for $30 and drop them a buck when I win...(unless I'm shooting, then I put $2 on the line and give the $1 for vig and the other $1 hand in)
When I play, I place/buy the point for $30 and drop them a buck when I win...(unless I'm shooting, then I put $2 on the line and give the $1 for vig and the other $1 hand in)
Gambling calls to me...like this ~> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nap37mNSmQ
November 19th, 2012 at 11:12:29 AM
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Perhaps the player wanted to increase his action on the point beyond the 2x odds limit, but not lock up the money by increasing his line bet?
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November 19th, 2012 at 11:16:56 AM
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That would have been a truly legitimate reason, but no. He never wagered more on his place bet than he would have been able to wager on his odds (3x-4x-5x).Quote: AyecarumbaPerhaps the player wanted to increase his action on the point beyond the 2x odds limit, but not lock up the money by increasing his line bet?
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November 19th, 2012 at 11:57:20 AM
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Reminds me of the Horseshoe, way back in the day when guys would cap their bets with DIMES (yes, ten whole cents) in order to take advantage of "rounding up" their odds.
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