YouCanBetOnThat
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November 19th, 2012 at 10:05:45 AM permalink
While, playing craps the other night, I noticed that the guy next to me was always placing the point instead of taking odds. I was debating whether or not to ask him why. I was worried that if I engaged him, I was in store for a long, rambling tirade.

Finally, I just had to know. "Why do you place the point instead of taking odds?"

"Well," he said, "this way I have complete control over the bet. I can take it down any time I want, I can increase the bet, I can decrease it... I have complete control. And the payout is not that much worse than taking odds."

I considered pointing out that he could do the same thing with odds, but decided against it. I felt a long, rambling tirade was still a possibility.
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ahiromu
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November 19th, 2012 at 10:17:09 AM permalink
So he made a pass line bet every time and just didn't take his odds? Lol

That's a moronic way to play, but good thinking on staying quiet.
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MathExtremist
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November 19th, 2012 at 10:17:57 AM permalink
For that, I would have just said "you know, you can take down the odds part of a line bet at any time," and left it at that. If he had further questions, point him to the dealers who should be able to confirm. I've never seen someone place the point who already had a line bet.
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DJTeddyBear
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November 19th, 2012 at 10:38:18 AM permalink
Quote: MathExtremist

For that, I would have just said "you know, you can take down the odds part of a line bet at any time," and left it at that. If he had further questions....

...I'd hand him a WoO/WoV business card:
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YouCanBetOnThat
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November 19th, 2012 at 10:42:57 AM permalink
Quote: ahiromu

So he made a pass line bet every time and just didn't take his odds?

Sorry, yes, he had a $12.00 pass line bet every time. ($12.00. Another reason I wasn't particularly interested in engaging him.)

A few years back at Wynn, I saw a high roller placing the point instead of taking odds on his pass line bet. He told me that he did it so that he'd get a better rating at the casino. (Casinos typically don't rate players on their odds bet because there's no house edge.) Apparently that was more important to him than winning more/losing less money. (At least he had a "legitimate" reason.)
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TIMSPEED
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November 19th, 2012 at 10:49:05 AM permalink
I missed the line bet part..what a donk!
When I play, I place/buy the point for $30 and drop them a buck when I win...(unless I'm shooting, then I put $2 on the line and give the $1 for vig and the other $1 hand in)
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Ayecarumba
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November 19th, 2012 at 11:12:29 AM permalink
Perhaps the player wanted to increase his action on the point beyond the 2x odds limit, but not lock up the money by increasing his line bet?
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YouCanBetOnThat
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November 19th, 2012 at 11:16:56 AM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

Perhaps the player wanted to increase his action on the point beyond the 2x odds limit, but not lock up the money by increasing his line bet?

That would have been a truly legitimate reason, but no. He never wagered more on his place bet than he would have been able to wager on his odds (3x-4x-5x).
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Ayecarumba
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November 19th, 2012 at 11:57:20 AM permalink
Reminds me of the Horseshoe, way back in the day when guys would cap their bets with DIMES (yes, ten whole cents) in order to take advantage of "rounding up" their odds.
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boymimbo
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November 19th, 2012 at 12:08:58 PM permalink
Yikes.

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