DrEntropy
DrEntropy
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August 5th, 2012 at 9:37:52 AM permalink
I was at GVR, and while i was waiting for someone I wondered over and watched the "Bubble craps" as I call it ("Shoot to win" is what Azure gaming calls it). If you are not familiar with this game, search on Youtube, there are videos. Anyway, I have passed by before and it is always full, but today it wasn't so I sat down. Then i put in $10 (you know, what the heck i will play this stupid game). Hey, what do you know, it was fun! If you want to kill time on the cheap, this is a great game for that! We all started to get into it when one of the 'shooters' = button pusher was running good. In the end I played for about 60-90 minutes on that $10 (boosted by an early hardways win) before getting a little crazy and giving my winnings back. An experienced craps player (normally green chip level) sat down and put in $200, but even with his hosts help he found it too confusing and went over to the tables. So your experience probably depends on your comfort with computers. Here is why it is fun for me on the cheap:

- $1 min bet, but pays out to the penny. Go ahead and place the 6 for $1. As far as I could check, all the payouts were standard. Field was 2x on both 2 and 12 though. Props payed 30-1 and 15-1. Commission was '5% on winning bets' but I was did not test what exactly this phrase means to the machine. [Anyone know the answer?]. You could buy/lay every number and also place and place to loose.

- 5 X Odds. This means the conservative don't better is only giving up 0.227% of each dollar bet on average. This probably explains the sign: "3 points for each $4 wagered". Normal slots are 3 for each $1, and Video poker is 1 for each $1 wagers. At GVR I think 1000 points is a dollar

- Cocktail service was very good, although i was not out to drink, if I was, i am sure i would have been pleased.


Anyway, while i was originally not going to play, I am definitely going to try this again!
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Keyser
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August 5th, 2012 at 10:59:26 AM permalink
It's a little slow paced, but it's finally a new game that's actually fun to play.
Pokeraddict
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August 5th, 2012 at 11:19:26 AM permalink
These are all over Las Vegas. My wife calls it "Fuzzy Dice Craps" but it more reminds me of that Price is Right game where the player rolls a dice to win a car and guesses O/U the roll. Did the game give points? Red Rock no longer pays points on the machine but other Stations still pay the $4=1 point.
buzzpaff
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August 5th, 2012 at 12:22:13 PM permalink
Am I the only one here that thinks Bubble craps is just plain a shitty idea ????
NicksGamingStuff
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August 5th, 2012 at 12:41:46 PM permalink
I only play craps on the mystery of fifty series machine because my betting level is too low to play on a real table.
tupp
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August 5th, 2012 at 12:45:39 PM permalink
Quote: DrEntropy

An experienced craps player (normally green chip level) sat down and put in $200, but even with his hosts help he found it too confusing and went over to the tables. So your experience probably depends on your comfort with computers.


The experienced player's problem probably had less to do with his computer comfort level and more to do with the needlessly confusing GUI (graphical user interface) on Shoot To Win. A lot of people who are uncomfortable with computers have no problems playing complex slot games.

Shoot To Win is a great game, but Azure really should to improve its GUI before it's too late (as should ShuffleMaster with Rapid Craps).
7craps
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August 5th, 2012 at 12:48:47 PM permalink
Quote: buzzpaff

Am I the only one here that thinks Bubble craps is just plain a shitty idea ????

You mean a crappy idea?

Yes you are, because you are the only one here...
There are many that just hate it. Their main gripe is there is no excitement as a real Craps table.
To each his own.
That is just great because that makes for more room at the machine for those that do like it.

No dealers or other players to mess up the game.
No late bets, hands where they should not be hitting the dice.
Drunks spitting and pissing on the layout, putting their crap all over the chips.
Very low limits...
Need more?

I'm off to play Bubble Craps
Way more enjoyable.

One just have to put up with the constant game calls from the Lady (the voice) in the machine.
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tupp
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August 5th, 2012 at 12:57:13 PM permalink
Quote: NicksGamingStuff

I only play craps on the mystery of fifty series machine because my betting level is too low to play on a real table.


It is actually called "History Of Fifty," which means that very basic statistics are given on the last 50 rolls. However, the "history" given is too sparse and not overly helpful for one who seeks patterns/trends.

In addition, the fact that most players misunderstand the name and meaning of this feature reinforces the idea that Azure really needs to revamp the machine's GUI to improve user comprehension.
buzzpaff
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August 5th, 2012 at 12:59:02 PM permalink
By shitty I mean the venue used, not the game. With today's technology, lasers, holograms, etc and that's the best they could do ?
DJTeddyBear
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August 5th, 2012 at 6:13:42 PM permalink
Quote: tupp

Shoot To Win is a great game, but Azure really should to improve its GUI before it's too late (as should ShuffleMaster with Rapid Craps).

Does it have some of the same problems as Rapid Craps?

Specifically, paying wins and taking the bet down. Or when you don't have a line bet up, pressing the inside, outside or across button and having it not place the point?
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