SFB
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July 9th, 2012 at 4:54:37 PM permalink
I saw this Craps Table layout on EBay.

On the Don't Come, it doesn't pay on the Three, instead of the Two or Twelve.

How does that change the odds for the house?

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Paigowdan
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July 9th, 2012 at 5:05:45 PM permalink
It's a High House Edge layout.
All the hardways pay 6:1 (which is 7 For 1), and pushing the 3 instead of 12 makes the don't side house edge ~4.2% instead of 1.4%.
There are no one roll bets for 2, 3, and 12 broken out, instead it has an any craps bets paying at 6:1 instead of 7:1 (7 For 1 instead of 8 for 1).
The field bet offers no bonuses on 2 or 12.
No one would play it. might make for a practice layout, but then you'd have to re-learn the proper payouts.
Don't buy it.
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July 9th, 2012 at 5:06:25 PM permalink
Quote: SFB

On the Don't Come, it doesn't pay on the Three, instead of the Two or Twelve.



That's ludicrous.
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July 9th, 2012 at 5:10:29 PM permalink
I also note the "Over 7" and "Under 7" betting areas. No odds posted though.

How is one supposed to use it in their home? Do you lay it out on your dining table?
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July 9th, 2012 at 5:20:01 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

I also note the "Over 7" and "Under 7" betting areas. No odds posted though.


Pays even money, 7 or other side (high when betting low) loses. Huge house edge.

Quote: Ayecarumba

How is one supposed to use it in their home? Do you lay it out on your dining table?


You make a table top with particle board, and a perimeter edge with alligator rubber, and put it on a pool table.
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July 9th, 2012 at 5:20:51 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

I also note the "Over 7" and "Under 7" betting areas. No odds posted though.

How is one supposed to use it in their home? Do you lay it out on your dining table?



Aye:

Yes, you would put it on your dining room table. I have a "standard" 8 foot felt at home to have fun with. We lay it out on the dining room table. Built a "back board" for the dice to bounce off. Fits on a bookshelf when not in use.

I would like to buy a "tub" 7-8 footer with a single dealer layout. I just scope out EBay occasionally.

Saw this layout, and thought "WTF?"

You see some older felts without the 2 and 12 being doubled in the field, but this one is out there.

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July 24th, 2012 at 6:07:39 PM permalink
I like this one much better. ;o)
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July 25th, 2012 at 12:23:07 AM permalink
Quote: 98Clubs

I like this one much better. ;o)



it says bottom right: wizard of odds? whaaa?
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July 25th, 2012 at 3:05:00 PM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

Quote: 98Clubs

I like this one much better. ;o)



it says bottom right: wizard of odds? whaaa?



Seems to have been doctored, as the one at WizardofOdds.com is still the same as I remember it.

http://wizardofodds.com/play/craps/

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July 25th, 2012 at 7:17:59 PM permalink
Its unusual, and altered. Zero chance of it being used, unless JB likes it as an alternate Aussy Payout.
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